Does God really hate Esau?

[12tribes1King]

Esau sold his birth right of the eternal blessings of God, for a bowl of soup and some bread.That is wickedness and ungodliness in our Creator's sight.

Genesis 25:
29And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint: 30And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom. 31And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright. 32And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me? 33And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob. 34Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.

Esau was a worldly type of man who's cares were in this life. He was a wicked, ungodly and unrepentant man because of that mind set, who could care less about God or any spiritual gift God would grant him, (until he realized what he had forsaken) but Jacob wanted this blessing more than anything else. God's Soul hates the wicked and ungodly (Esau and everyone else like him) don't be deceived they were made to be destroyed in hell for this rebellion against their maker, just like their dad the devil, who was the first to reject God for his own cares, wants, and needs.

Psalm 11:
In the LORD put I my trust: how say ye to my soul, Flee as a bird to your mountain? 2For, lo, the wicked bend their bow, they make ready their arrow upon the string, that they may privily shoot at the upright in heart.

3If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do?
4The LORD is in his holy temple, the LORD'S throne is in heaven: his eyes behold, his eyelids try, the children of men.

5The LORD trieth the righteous: but the wicked and him that loveth violence his soul hateth.

6Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: this shall be the portion of their cup.

7For the righteous LORD loveth righteousness; his countenance doth behold the upright.

Esau was Just like many ungodly and wicked, unrepentant men walking around the world today who could care less to know about God or for any heavenly inheritance they might receive through faith. All the wants of that kind of man are carnal; money,power,fame ect.,filthy cursed children,fools,( just like Judas Iscariot) who are made to be destroyed. It is only when they realize what they have lost (God's eternal love and blessings) that they bitterly weep and wish to repent but they had their whole life to do that. Esau is an poster child, (example) of those who will be destroyed in hell for forsaking God in this life.

Hebrews 12:
14Follow peace with all men, and holiness, without which no man shall see the Lord: 15Looking diligently lest any man fail of the grace of God; lest any root of bitterness springing up trouble you, and thereby many be defiled; 16Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. 17For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears.

 

[LT]

I know many of us have been raised with the image of a tame, adorable, all-loving, creator... but we must remember that our God is VERY POWERFUL, and He is unfathomably HOLY. You know the phrase "holier than thou"? Well God actually is! When He judges someone, IT IS JUST! He created hell.... and that punishment is JUST. God isn't just sending our sins to hell, but is going to send actual PEOPLE to hell. In fact, we all deserve that punishment, because we aren't holy. Therefore, God has the right to feel any emotion He wants towards someone.
If we say that God cannot hate, we have just told the most powerful being the way He should behave. I am not saying that God definitely "hates" anyone in the way that humans use that term, but I wouldn't say He doesn't or can't; because I am not God, and He never said in the Bible that He doesn't hate anyone.
Honestly, I made a similar post about this recently, and I still have a lot of questions on this topic, so don't take any of what I just said as fact, just some thoughts.

 

[texascowgirl]

God hates evil. Paul said in Acts, that its the law of God's nature to produce kind after kind. So if your the child of God, don't think that God is like some force out in space. If He created us, then we are kin.


Did you read, when Christ took a cords and rope and wiped the money changers, Not sure he was happy there.


Proverbs 6:16-19

King James Version (KJV)

16 These six things doth the Lord hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him:

17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood,

18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief,

19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.


You read this through out the Bible, God does hate evil and when people do evil things, He's not going to like them. But He would like they would change. But God has emotions also. And His emotions are more then ours even, more then what we can in these dull bodies. He knows more of feelings then we even im sure. He created us after all.

Nathan, yes God hates evil BUT HE ALSO CREATED IT. As far as the money changers go, yes Jesus was angry but his anger is righteous where man's anger is not. Jesus could not sin so when Jesus was angry he didn't do anything unrighteous, when we are angry we do. As far as the 7 abominations, every single human fits into one or more of those 7 categories. We only think we don't. But we do. All sinners fit in one or more of those categories. How many are sinners? Everybody.

 

[Blessed878]

I really appreciate the explanation regarding esau. although I read the passage I didn't fully get the key point. I understood he sold his birth right and he didn't give his very best offering to God. but I didn't see why that was a reason for GOD to hate him but now that it has been explained I feel better with one of my many inquiries being answered thanks to all of you....

 

[Tintin]

God did not create evil. He created beings (angels, mankind) with the ability/free will to choose to do good or evil but he didn't create evil himself.

 

[jimmydiggs]

Not many people like to believe what the bible says. :/

 

[nathan3]

Nathan, yes God hates evil BUT HE ALSO CREATED IT. As far as the money changers go, yes Jesus was angry but his anger is righteous where man's anger is not. Jesus could not sin so when Jesus was angry he didn't do anything unrighteous, when we are angry we do. As far as the 7 abominations, every single human fits into one or more of those 7 categories. We only think we don't. But we do. All sinners fit in one or more of those categories. How many are sinners? Everybody.

Right, but I want to really address is this idea, that you think God created evil. That is not written anywhere, So why would you believe that ?

If there is a place that says, God created evil, then, where is it ?

 

[Bookends]

Aww, come on! you're only 21!

 

[texascowgirl]

Right, but I want to really address is this idea, that you think God created evil. That is not written anywhere, So why would you believe that ?

If there is a place that says, God created evil, then, where is it ?

I answered this but it didn't seem to show up so here again Isa 45:7

 

[MidniteWelder]

God did not create evil. He created beings (angels, mankind) with the ability/free will to choose to do good or evil but he didn't create evil himself.

Hello Tintin
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.



It was a pretty revealing scripture for me the first time I was enlightened to it too

 

[Hizikyah]

Hello Tintin
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
It was a pretty revealing scripture for me the first time I was enlightened to it too

Isayah 45:6-9, "So that they may know from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting that there is none besides Me. I am Yahweh, and there is no other! I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create destruction; I, Yahweh, do all these things. Drop down, you heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness. Let the earth be released; let salvation spring up, and let righteousness grow together; I, Yahweh, have created it. Woe to him who strives with his Maker! Let the potsherds strive with the potsherds of the earth. Will the clay say to him who forms it; What are you
making? Or will your handiwork say; He has no hands?"

Isayah 24:3-6, "The land will be utterly emptied and utterly plundered, for Yahweh has spoken this word. The earth mourns and fades away, the world mourns and fades away, and the haughty people of the earth alanguish. The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants of it, because they have transgressed the Laws, changed the ordinance, and broken the everlasting
covenant. Because of this, the curse has devoured the earth, and they who dwell therein are desolate; therefore, the
inhabitants of the earth are burned, and few men left."

Yahweh's judgement is righteous, He forces none to do His will, but He also lets those who choose to go their own way do so, only they have to lie in the bed they make for themselves.

 

[nathan3]

I answered this but it didn't seem to show up so here again Isa 45:7

Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I made peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."

This verse has been badly translated from the Hebrew text. Lets take a close look at two words here, the words "create", and "evil". The verb "create" or "bara" in the Hebrew requires the rendering "to bring about". This word has to be determined in the context of it's use.

The word "evil" is never rendered "sin", but "calamity".

God brings calamity into our lives as the inevitable consequences of the sin that is committed.

God is saying that if you chose to bring sin in your life, you can count on the calamity that will follow. God has not created the sin, or evil, but God has created the individuals that have turned to evil. Then when you get out of line, God provides the distress within your life to show you that you are out of line, and by that calamity you know it is time to repent and get back into line.

If you are a child of God, you will pick up on those times when you are out of the will of God, and see the distress for what it is and thank Him for it. You will get back to where you should be, and then God will straighten you path and break down those bars and gates that are in your way. However it is all up to you.


Look at the word in The Hebrew, you see how the context of all we know about God must be factored in. The Translators chose the English word evil, although the Greek is used in another way even , and in many places in the Bible. So if you actually took some time to do a word study to find how this word has been translated throughout the Bible, you should find "" Calamity "" is the better translation ..



ra‛ râ‛âh

{rah} raw-aw'

From H7489 ; bad or (as noun) evil (naturally or morally). This includes the second (feminine) form; as adjective or noun: - {adversity} {affliction} {bad} {calamity} + displease ({-ure}) {distress} evil ({[-favouredness]} {man} {thing}) + {exceedingly} X {great} grief ({-vous}) {harm} {heavy} hurt ({-ful}) ill ({favoured}) + {mark} {mischief} ({-vous}) {misery} naught ({-ty}) {noisome} + not {please} sad ({-ly}) {sore} {sorrow} {trouble} {vex} wicked ({-ly} {-ness} {one}) worse (-st) {wretchedness} wrong. [Including feminine ra´ ah; as adjective or noun.]

 

[nathan3]

Look up the words yourself and do a study if you want, of all the times its used.

NewJerusalem.org > Home Use this Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible.

That will help you see that below.

 

[MidniteWelder]

Yahweh's judgement is righteous, He forces none to do His will, but He also lets those who choose to go their own way do so, only they have to lie in the bed they make for themselves.

Well he doesn't make ya, but he can make ya wanna

 

[nathan3]

I remember Christ said, a house divided against its self can not stand. If He is "" creating evil " its counter productive. He does use Satan, as a means to an end. But we all know from Ezekiel 28, that God created Lucifer good. It was Lucifer/Satan that went bad. God never created him evil. People are created with the ability to choose their own fates in that respect.



You also want to carefully listen to this verses also if your in the mind set, that God ""creates " evil. :


Jeremiah 23:33-40 KJV*


(33) And when this people, or the prophet, or a priest, shall ask thee, saying, What is the burden of the LORD? thou shalt then say unto them, What burden? I will even forsake you, saith the LORD.


(34) And as for the prophet, and the priest, and the people, that shall say, The burden of the LORD, I will even punish that man and his house.


(35) Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbour, and every one to his brother, What hath the LORD answered? and, What hath the LORD spoken?


(36) And the burden of the LORD shall ye mention no more: for every man's word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of the LORD of hosts our God.

(37) Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath the LORD answered thee? and, What hath the LORD spoken?

(38) But since ye say, The burden of the LORD; therefore thus saith the LORD; Because ye say this word, The burden of the LORD, and I have sent unto you, saying, Ye shall not say, The burden of the LORD;

(39) Therefore, behold, I, even I, will utterly forget you, and I will forsake you, and the city that I gave you and your fathers, and cast you out of my presence:

(40) And I will bring an everlasting reproach upon you, and a perpetual shame, which shall not be forgotten.



James 1:13-14

King James Version (KJV)

13 Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:

14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.



There are others also Ezekiel 18

 

[john832]

Read the book of Obadiah lately? God says that after the tribulation, there will not be a male of age alive. The women will be married into other tribes and their inborn hatred of Israel will actually be bred out of them.

 

[svedbygrace]

Does God really hate Esau?

Does He really Love Jacob ?

 

[notuptome]

God hates sin. Gods eternal wrath abides on sin. If you choose sin over God you will receive wrath.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[thecreationtutor]

Does man really hate God?

 

[john832]

Does man really hate God?

Uh, yeah...

Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.