Does God really require anything of us?

[just-us-2]

A look at scripture would say He does.

“And now,Israel, what doth the Lord thy God require of thee, but to fear the Lord thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the Lord, and His statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good.” (Deuteronomy 10:12-13)
“He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?” (Micah 6:8) or as it is translated directly from the original writings: "Human being, you have already been told what is good, what ADONAI demands of you - no more than to act justly, love grace and walk in purity with your God."

If we want to love God with all of our being, which is required, we will respect greatly His will and do it, because that is what is in our hearts. That entails searching the scriptures in order to understand His requirements, including the law and the prophets, which those that really believe are not under. If we truly love God as we ought to, we will earnestly want to put ourselves under the requirements of our Lord God because we desire His companionship. If we are not subject to these things, there is no companionship in love, and He will say to us at judgment day, “Depart from me, I never knew you.”

Matthew 7:21-23~~ “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

Why does this thought not scare the daylights (or in reality, the "darkness") out of Christians today even if they don’t want to obey God out of love for Him?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

“And now,Israel, what doth the Lord thy God require of thee...

He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God. Micah 6:8

Seems pretty simple...

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Being just is treating others in the same way you'd want to be treated.

Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets. Matthew 7:12
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[nl]

The Lord loves a cheerful giver in matters of both finances and obedience. The epistle of Jude exhorts: "Keep yourselves in the love of God". "For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments" (1 John 5:3). All of us could love God more. Loving God is the greatest commandment. Faith works by love (Galatians 5:6). Faith, love, keeping his commandments...it all runs together. But...it is best that we would love and live out God's Words not on the basis of compulsion but on the basis of a higher motive that perhaps only Almighty God can see.

 

[AgapeSpiritEyes]

Now the commands of Moses are 2,713 and the rest of the Old letter of commands (that pointed to sin and the remedy of sin the sarifices and ceremonies the types and shadows of the Son of God’s sacrifice for sin) 113,000 commands. Now we need our brethren’s encouragement and reproof with their gifts and fruits of the Holy Spirit to grow in the power of the Lord Jesus’ Holy Spirit to be quickened and make them my natural response. So again 1050 commands of the Lord Jesus Christ to me a gentile. Let’s start for they in themselves cannot be done without the Holy Spirit quickening them us. Here are a few of the 1050 The Laws of Moses Abolished Acts 15:24.
7 command to abstains; idols, fornication, strangles meats, eating blood, meats offered to idols Acts15.
All appearances of evil 1Th. 5:22, fleshly lusts 1 Pt.2:11.
Avoid: Trouble makers Ro. 16:17, Profane vain babblings 1 Tim 6:20, False Science. Unlearned Questions 2 Tim 2:27. Foolish Questions; Titus 3:9, Genealogies, along with arguing about the Old Testament Law.
• To be: Exceedingly glade Matthew 5:12
• Reconciled to the brethren Mtt.5:24
• Perfect as complete as the Father and Jesus in giving mercy and forgiveness with compassion Mt. 5:48 and 2 Corinthians 13:11
• Wise as a serpent Mt 10:16
• Harmless as a dove Mt. 10:16
along with 1026 more these are not grievous and over burdensome like the old testament but are empowered with the Holy Spirit and by prayer.

 

[just-us-2]

The Laws of Moses Abolished Acts 15:24.

Not so. I could get off on various trains of thought but I really dislike it when threads get derailed, but it is easy to do. I will also try to not get long-winded.

So, are you saying that the Old Testament scriptures are of no use now? The commandments Jesus gave did not negate the Mosaic Law of the Old Testament; they confirmed it. God sent His son, Jesus Christ, to die and be raised again for our sins. And that is a miraculous free gift of grace explained to us in the New Testament. We need not be under the law of the Old Testament any longer! How wonderful! Now that we have this marvelous free gift, we have no obligation to God any more, right? No more instructions, no more commandments? NOT!

I’m sure you have read Galatians 3:24-25 (KJV): “Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith. But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.” Look carefully into what a “schoolmaster” was in Biblical times. In that culture it was someone who took the master’s children to school – not the school lessons themselves. No, we don’t need to be “taken to school” anymore but it says nothing about ignoring what we have learned after that schoolmaster got us to school.

Colossians 3:1-2 says, “If ye then be risen with Christ, seek those things which are above where Christ sitteth on the right hand of God. Set your affection on things above, not on things of the earth.”
The passage goes on to explain these things we are to set our affections upon, particularly verses 12-15 of the third chapter in Colossians. “Put on therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, bowels of mercies, kindness, humbleness of mind, meekness, longsuffering; Forbearing one another, and forgiving one another, if any man have a quarrel against any: even as Christ forgave you, so also do ye. And above all these things put on charity, which is the bond of perfectness. And let the peace of God rule in your hearts, to the which also ye are called in one body; and be ye thankful.” I see a striking resemblance to the Old Testament scripture. In light of these next two passages of scripture, it would stand to reason that God requires the same heart in His people regardless of the time in history in which they live.

Malachi 3:6 “For I am the Lord. I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.”
And Hebrews 13:8 “Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and for ever.”

How sad that so many people claim to be Christians yet refuse to acknowledge the statutes and commandments of peace and love written in the law given to Moses, and again in the New Testament. They have been misled into believing that they have no responsibility or accountability toward God just because of that free gift of grace. Is it not still God’s will for us to obey Him?

John 5:46-47 (KJV)
[SUP]46 [/SUP]For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[SUP]47 [/SUP]But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Bottom line: If we deny the law of Moses physically, we are also denying the Spiritual application of it. It’s all about heart condition.

 

[notuptome]

You better believe He does. Surrender. Surrender your will to His will. It is not about what you can do for Him but what He has done for you.

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I think the question is misworded. ad it always seem to be with these threads and this leads to confusion and hot arguments.

Do you mean for salvation? or to be blessed while hear on earth.

If it is for salvation. the answer is no, we already failed the requirement. and thus already rightly condemned, no matter how Good we may be from now until the day we die, we would still fail to meet the standard.

If it is to be blessed. The answer would be yes. But first you must be saved. And even then, it may not be full blessings like many want, Tribulation and trials (not to mention attack) from satan will still exist. But if we learn to know God and walk in his ways, we can be blessed even in these, as Paul said.

 

[AgapeSpiritEyes]

I am a gentile not a Jew never did follow the old testament never was born again under the old testament never experienced Jesus washing my sins away from me by the old testament if you see some similarities of the old in the New then it only enforces the New I have not ever experienced Jesus asking me to observe the Old wine skins put inside my new man the New wine of His blood giving me a new birth from above. I am lead to follow after prayerfully and it is a life long task the 1050 commands of the New testament. I am of much comfort to not be entangled the first time in the bondage of the Old wine skins of the Old Testament Gal. 5:1. I am glade that you do but also we are commanded to not argue about the Old Testament Law Titus 3:9. My desire and prayer is the omnipotent Agape of the Lord Jesus refresh and fill you overflowing as my prayer to all.

 

[GreenNnice]

nah, not much, just accept Him as our personal Saviour in our heart, thus, 'born again,' obey His laws, read His Word and folllow it's ways, listen to His voice, be led by His spirit . Faith in Him, of the good, the bad, and, don't forget the ugly, in our life.

Nah, not much at all

 

[just-us-2]

nah, not much, just accept Him as our personal Saviour in our heart, thus, 'born again,' obey His laws, read His Word and folllow it's ways, listen to His voice, be led by His spirit . Faith in Him, of the good, the bad, and, don't forget the ugly, in our life.

Nah, not much at all

Very good! Like that facetious way of making a point!

 

[john832]

A look at scripture would say He does.

“And now,Israel, what doth the Lord thy God require of thee, but to fear the Lord thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the Lord, and His statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good.” (Deuteronomy 10:12-13)
“He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?” (Micah 6:8) or as it is translated directly from the original writings: "Human being, you have already been told what is good, what ADONAI demands of you - no more than to act justly, love grace and walk in purity with your God."

If we want to love God with all of our being, which is required, we will respect greatly His will and do it, because that is what is in our hearts. That entails searching the scriptures in order to understand His requirements, including the law and the prophets, which those that really believe are not under. If we truly love God as we ought to, we will earnestly want to put ourselves under the requirements of our Lord God because we desire His companionship. If we are not subject to these things, there is no companionship in love, and He will say to us at judgment day, “Depart from me, I never knew you.”

Matthew 7:21-23~~ “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”

Why does this thought not scare the daylights (or in reality, the "darkness") out of Christians today even if they don’t want to obey God out of love for Him?

If you don't mind me piggy-backing...

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

 

[just-us-2]

If you don't mind me piggy-backing...

Ecc 12:13 Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God, and keep his commandments: for this is the whole duty of man.

Don't mind at all

 

[haz]

Bottom line: If we deny the law of Moses physically, we are also denying the Spiritual application of it. It’s all about heart condition.

Hi just-us-2,

I agree with what AgapeSpiritEyes said.

Many scriptures confirm that the law is ended, for righteousness.

Rom 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

2Cor 3:7-
But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. For if what is passing away was glorious, what remainsis much more glorious.

Many scriptures warn that some will try to bring people back under the law that was done away with.

 

[notconformed2theworld]

Agape...I thank God for your holy ghost filled revelation....Titus 3:9 opened my eyes.
And Haz...u nailed it.
This is why Galatians was written...to let the church know that works of the law are dead.

 

[just-us-2]

Hi just-us-2,

I agree with what AgapeSpiritEyes said.

Many scriptures confirm that the law is ended, for righteousness.

Rom 10:4
For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to everyone who believes.

2Cor 3:7-
But if the ministry of death, written and engraved on stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of the glory of his countenance, which glory was passing away, how will the ministry of the Spirit not be more glorious? For if the ministry of condemnation had glory, the ministry of righteousness exceeds much more in glory. For even what was made glorious had no glory in this respect, because of the glory that excels. For if what is passing away was glorious, what remainsis much more glorious.

Many scriptures warn that some will try to bring people back under the law that was done away with.

I do have to clarify one thing real quick here. As I posted this comment I looked at it and decided to edit which I did but the computer froze when I was trying to save the changes. So it should have read--Bottom line: If we can’t look at the law ofMoses beyond the physical, we are also denying the Spiritual application of it.It’s all about heart condition.

 

[just-us-2]

I am a gentile not a Jew never did follow the old testament never was born again under the old testament never experienced Jesus washing my sins away from me by the old testament if you see some similarities of the old in the New then it only enforces the New I have not ever experienced Jesus asking me to observe the Old wine skins put inside my new man the New wine of His blood giving me a new birth from above. I am lead to follow after prayerfully and it is a life long task the 1050 commands of the New testament. I am of much comfort to not be entangled the first time in the bondage of the Old wine skins of the Old Testament Gal. 5:1. I am glade that you do but also we are commanded to not argue about the Old Testament Law Titus 3:9. My desire and prayer is the omnipotent Agape of the Lord Jesus refresh and fill you overflowing as my prayer to all.

Like I said in my explanation of the edit I made that didn't take, If we can’t look at the law of Moses beyond the physical, we are also denying the Spiritual application of it. It’s all about heart condition.

 

[Powemm]

A look at scripture would say He does.

“And now,Israel, what doth the Lord thy God require of thee, but to fear the Lord thy God, to walk in all His ways, and to love him, and to serve the Lord thy God with all thy heart and with all thy soul, To keep the commandments of the Lord, and His statutes, which I command thee this day for thy good.” (Deuteronomy 10:12-13)
“He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy,
and to walk humbly with thy God?” (Micah 6:8) or as it is translated directly from the original writings: "Human being, you have already been told what is good, what ADONAI demands of you - no more than to act justly, love grace and walk in purity with your God."

If we want to love God with all of our being, which is required, we will respect greatly His will and do it, because that is what is in our hearts. That entails searching the scriptures in order to understand His requirements, including the law and the prophets, which those that really believe are not under. If we truly love God as we ought to, we will earnestly want to put ourselves under the requirements of our Lord God because we desire His companionship. If we are not subject to these things, there is no companionship in love, and He will say to us at judgment day, “Depart from me, I never knew you.

Matthew 7:21-23~~ “Not everyone that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? And in thy name have cast out devils? And in thy name done many wonderful works? And then I will profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

Why does this thought not scare the daylights (or in reality, the "darkness") out of Christians today even if they don’t want to obey God out of love for Him?

Isaiah 43:10
“You are my witnesses,” declares the Lord, “and my servant whom I have chosen, so that you may know and ((believe me))and understand that I am he. Before me no god was formed, nor will there be one after me.

Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but ((be transformed)) by the ((renewing of your mind.)) Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.

He tells us to believe Him

 

[just-us-2]

He tells us to believe Him

Right! ALL of Him!

He is greatly displeased when we, mere humans, twist His Word, ignore some parts, or add to what He says, and call it His Truth.

 

[just-us-2]

Do you mean for salvation? or to be blessed while hear on earth.

Thank you for your comments. The question is meant to make professing Christians look at themselves seriously and determine what God has already revealed to us. One big problem today is that Christians hear a message, sermon, teaching, etc. that they like and adopt what the speaker said as their belief without researching to see if what they were taught is even true. This is part of the reason the threads get derailed - they have nothing to back up what they think so they go off in an other direction or just repeat the human interpretation using partial scriptures.
1 Samuel 15:22-23 (KJV)
[SUP]22 [/SUP]And Samuel said, Hath the LORD as great delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices, as in obeying the voice of the LORD? Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to hearken than the fat of rams.
[SUP]23 [/SUP]For rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft, and stubbornness is as iniquity and idolatry. Because thou hast rejected the word of the LORD, he hath also rejected thee from being king.