Does God still speak to the people in our time today?

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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
 
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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
[h=3]John 17[/h]King James Version (KJV)

17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

You can only know God through the bible Jesus is the Written word


[h=3]John 1[/h]King James Version (KJV)


1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God


 
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Galatians 1

9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.
11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
 
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1 John 2

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These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.

27But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.

Yet God has given us pastors after his own heart and the church cannot funtion without them
 
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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
MOST DEFINITELY...
 
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John 17

King James Version (KJV)

17 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.
3And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.
8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.

You can only know God through the bible Jesus is the Written word


John 1

King James Version (KJV)


1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God

[SUP]John 5:39[/SUP] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
[SUP] 40[/SUP] And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


[SUP]Matt. 11:28[/SUP] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.



[SUP] 29[/SUP] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

John 10[SUP]16[/SUP] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.


The bible itself tell us to come to Jesus if we want life or everlasting life and it also tells us that people think they have eternal life in the scriptures but Jesus says eternal life is in him and it is by coming to him that we can have life. Don't you realize that if we come to Jesus today, Jesus can talk to us in the same way that He did in the days of the old?
 
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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
Does not Jesus say I will send you the Comforter? And what is wrong with the bible seeing it is Jesus words from the Father written down for us to learn? Do you know who the Comforter is?
 
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[SUP]John 5:39[/SUP] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
[SUP] 40[/SUP] And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


[SUP]Matt. 11:28[/SUP] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.



[SUP] 29[/SUP] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

John 10[SUP]16[/SUP] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.


The bible itself tell us to come to Jesus if we want life or everlasting life and it also tells us that people think they have eternal life in the scriptures but Jesus says eternal life is in him and it is by coming to him that we can have life. Don't you realize that if we come to Jesus today, Jesus can talk to us in the same way that He did in the days of the old?

Jesus was not condeming the scriptures when he said that also how do you reconcile what


2 Timothy 3
14 But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
15 And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works
 

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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
If you set aside the bible, how will you be able to test the spirits to see if they are of God?

1 John 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

2 John 1:9-10 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
 
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[SUP]John 5:39[/SUP] Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me.
[SUP] 40[/SUP] And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.


[SUP]Matt. 11:28[/SUP] Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.



[SUP] 29[/SUP] Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls.

John 10[SUP]16[/SUP] And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.


The bible itself tell us to come to Jesus if we want life or everlasting life and it also tells us that people think they have eternal life in the scriptures but Jesus says eternal life is in him and it is by coming to him that we can have life. Don't you realize that if we come to Jesus today, Jesus can talk to us in the same way that He did in the days of the old?
How does faith in God comes to someone ?
 
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To OneJack

1 Timothy 6:3
If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness;
 
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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
You cannot know God without the scriptures
Matthew 22:29Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God
 
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  • Luke 24:27And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.

  • Luke 24:32And they said one to another, Did not our heart burn within us, while he talked with us by the way, and while he opened to us the scriptures?

  • Luke 24:45Then opened he their understanding, that they might understand thescriptures,
 
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People in the biblical Christian world are not in agreement with various teachings and doctrines that their respective men pastors formulated out of the passages of the bible, would this scenario have not happened should we people learn to come directly to God instead of coming to various religious denominations which are now widespread all around the four corners of the globe?

Does God still speak/talk to the people in our time today as God did in the days of the old? If Paul knew Jesus then by and through Jesus Christ, could we also come to the way of knowing the Lord Jesus today by and through himself instead of knowing Him via the bible?
Job 33

14 For God speaketh once, yea twice, yet man perceiveth it not.
15 In a dream, in a vision of the night, when deep sleep falleth upon men, in slumberings upon the bed;
16 Then he openeth the ears of men, and sealeth their instruction,
17 That he may withdraw man from his purpose, and hide pride from man.
18 He keepeth back his soul from the pit, and his life from perishing by the sword.
19 He is chastened also with pain upon his bed, and the multitude of his bones with strong pain:
20 So that his life abhorreth bread, and his soul dainty meat.
21 His flesh is consumed away, that it cannot be seen; and his bones that were not seen stick out.
22 Yea, his soul draweth near unto the grave, and his life to the destroyers.
23 If there be a messenger with him, an interpreter, one among a thousand, to shew unto man his uprightness:
24 Then he is gracious unto him, and saith, Deliver him from going down to the pit: I have found a ransom.
25 His flesh shall be fresher than a child's: he shall return to the days of his youth:
26 He shall pray unto God, and he will be favourable unto him: and he shall see his face with joy: for he will render unto man his righteousness.
 
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God speaks to us today, especially through his scriptures and also, when we decide to listen, through our spirit.

Listening has always been the problem. Before scripture was written down, men put it to memory and there were men who chanted scripture. It was because man didn't listen that there was a flood. It was because man didn't listen that God created the Jewish race to concentrate one group to listen, and they often didn't do well at it. The success God did have with them is the only reason we have our world today. Until Paul brought the gospel to gentiles, the gentiles didn't help the world a bit. We are still having problems listening, and the world is rapidly winding down toward the day of judgment.

Today, there are thousands who believe that God speaks so directly to them through the spirit that they don't have to wonder enough if they are hearing correctly to check with scripture. They say that Paul tells them this is the correct way, so they lead people in strange ways.
 
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Does not Jesus say I will send you the Comforter? And what is wrong with the bible seeing it is Jesus words from the Father written down for us to learn? Do you know who the Comforter is?
Who did Paul meet on His way to Damascus, was it the HS or was it the Lord Jesus? Nothing is wrong with the bible, it is the way how the people treated the bible that is wrong thus the never ending debate on the issue of who, what, and how is God in His own way of existence and living. I know the HS by and through the Lord Jesus Christ who taught us about Him (the HS).
 
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God speaks to us today, especially through his scriptures and also, when we decide to listen, through our spirit.
Listening has always been the problem. Before scripture was written down, men put it to memory and there were men who chanted scripture. It was because man didn't listen that there was a flood. It was because man didn't listen that God created the Jewish race to concentrate one group to listen, and they often didn't do well at it. The success God did have with them is the only reason we have our world today. Until Paul brought the gospel to gentiles, the gentiles didn't help the world a bit. We are still having problems listening, and the world is rapidly winding down toward the day of judgment.
Today, there are thousands who believe that God speaks so directly to them through the spirit that they don't have to wonder enough if they are hearing correctly to check with scripture. They say that Paul tells them this is the correct way, so they lead people in strange ways.
I just wonder if, through out the bible starting from Genesis to Revelation, God and Jesus Christ has taught that there will come a time that the Almighty will speak to the people through and by the scriptures, can you please pin point exactly in the pages of the bible where can we see God telling such thing to His prophets and apostles and disciples?
Did the Lord God or Jesus Christ teach then to His prophets and apostles to use the scriptures/bible today as a countercheck tool in determining the genuineness of anyone's claim that God did talk to him/her in this place or in that place, etc., etc.?
I do not say that we have to set aside the bible, but I do say we have to read the bible, even everyday, just be sure that we have to come to God to ask Him to help us understand the things we are reading and searching in the pages of the bible.
 
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Who did Paul meet on His way to Damascus, was it the HS or was it the Lord Jesus? Nothing is wrong with the bible, it is the way how the people treated the bible that is wrong thus the never ending debate on the issue of who, what, and how is God in His own way of existence and living. I know the HS by and through the Lord Jesus Christ who taught us about Him (the HS).
Isn't it rather the HS who teaches you understanding of the Word (Jesus)?
 
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It is the Lord Jesus himself who does today, not the HS.
You can start with the ten commandments which by the way were scriptures written by the finger of God and given to His people.

And Jesus said, SEARCH THE SCRIPTURES for in them you think you have eternal life, and the scriptures are them which testify of Me.

So you see, God has a purpose for the scriptures.

This is in reply to post 18, not your quote in this post.
 
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