Does the gift of prophecy include preaching?

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presidente

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'Preach' in the KJV of the new Testament is typically one of three Greek words. There are some exceptions to that. These words are typically used in the context of evangelistic preaching, proclaiming the Gospel to those who have not believed it yet.

The apostles also taught believers. Romans 12 mentions three 'speaking' gifts, prophecy, teaching, and exhortation. Ephesians 4:11 mentions certain ministries, apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. I Corinthians 12 mentions different gifts including prophets and teachers.

So evangelizing... preaching... and prophesying are treated as different ministries. Evangelist and prophet are treated as different ministries. In I Corinthians 12, prophets and teachers are not the same gift. In Romans 12, prophesying, teaching, and exhorting are three different gifts.

So what is the difference? What is prophesying? Prophesying involves speaking (or singing, playing instruments, or maybe doing sign acts like wearing an iron yoke like Jeremiah or walking around naked like Isaiah or Micah) as moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit moves the prophet (or one who prophesies) to speak. The prophet speaks words given by the Holy Ghost.

A typical pattern in the Old Testament is before prophesying for the prophet to say 'Thus saith the Lord.' That wasn't required for it to be a prophecy.

Prophecies are often given in the first person, where the prophet quotes God and speaks on His behalf. Not all prophecies follow this pattern, but many do.

There is an example of a prophecy by a prophet in Acts. Agabus prophecy begins, "Thus saith the Holy Ghost."

New Testament prophecy is not something totally different from Old Testament prophecy. The Holy Spirit still moves individuals to speak. It is distinct from teaching and evangelizing, though there may be cases where a prophecy may teach or may be an evangelistic message, and it is possible that someone might prophesy while preaching a sermon.

In the Old Testament, there were priests who were supposed to teach the Law, and there were prophets who quoted messages from God. So there was teaching and prophesying in the Old Testament, and these were not the same ministries. We see this also in the New Testament.
 

JaumeJ

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God, Yahweh, does not say what is right, nor does He have a "point of view."

It is veryi important to always bear in mind what is written about what God has to say.

He does not just "say" what is right, He declares what is right, and I would not have it any other way being the child,
and He being the ony Adult ever.

So, I would say prophets of God repeat aor write down what our Father has declared. I believe you already knew this. God bless you and forgive my butting in.....


Prophesy is declaring God's point of view whether to God's people or to the world. A prayerfully designed sermon definitely qualifies.
 
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'Preach' in the KJV of the new Testament is typically one of three Greek words. There are some exceptions to that. These words are typically used in the context of evangelistic preaching, proclaiming the Gospel to those who have not believed it yet.

The apostles also taught believers. Romans 12 mentions three 'speaking' gifts, prophecy, teaching, and exhortation. Ephesians 4:11 mentions certain ministries, apostles, prophets, evangelists, pastors and teachers. I Corinthians 12 mentions different gifts including prophets and teachers.

So evangelizing... preaching... and prophesying are treated as different ministries. Evangelist and prophet are treated as different ministries. In I Corinthians 12, prophets and teachers are not the same gift. In Romans 12, prophesying, teaching, and exhorting are three different gifts.

So what is the difference? What is prophesying? Prophesying involves speaking (or singing, playing instruments, or maybe doing sign acts like wearing an iron yoke like Jeremiah or walking around naked like Isaiah or Micah) as moved by the Holy Ghost. The Holy Spirit moves the prophet (or one who prophesies) to speak. The prophet speaks words given by the Holy Ghost.

A typical pattern in the Old Testament is before prophesying for the prophet to say 'Thus saith the Lord.' That wasn't required for it to be a prophecy.

Prophecies are often given in the first person, where the prophet quotes God and speaks on His behalf. Not all prophecies follow this pattern, but many do.

There is an example of a prophecy by a prophet in Acts. Agabus prophecy begins, "Thus saith the Holy Ghost."

New Testament prophecy is not something totally different from Old Testament prophecy. The Holy Spirit still moves individuals to speak. It is distinct from teaching and evangelizing, though there may be cases where a prophecy may teach or may be an evangelistic message, and it is possible that someone might prophesy while preaching a sermon.

In the Old Testament, there were priests who were supposed to teach the Law, and there were prophets who quoted messages from God. So there was teaching and prophesying in the Old Testament, and these were not the same ministries. We see this also in the New Testament.
Can you tell me who the two witnesses of Rev. 11 are?
 

JaumeJ

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If you love our Lord, Jesus, then you and I are also witness but we number in the myriad, not in just the Two for whom we all await...


I think I've encountered three people on the Internet who claim to be one of the two witnesses.
 
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I can do Aill of Daniel or Revelation and a lot of other stuff in the Bible.