Dreams and the end times (I'm about to look supid(er))
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You will anyway. God knows what's in your heart. If you confess your sins, God who is faithful and just with forgive your sins and cleanse you from all unrighteousness.
You don't just take it upon yourself, though, to go out and do bad or mean things on purpose in spite of God. He knows what's in your heart. You're going to mess up, and you do more damage to yourself and others, paralyzing yourself to inactivity, intending to somehow "will away" God's sentence of original sin.
You don't just take it upon yourself, though, to go out and do bad or mean things on purpose in spite of God. He knows what's in your heart. You're going to mess up, and you do more damage to yourself and others, paralyzing yourself to inactivity, intending to somehow "will away" God's sentence of original sin.
"Yes", it is instinctive and reactive that no one wants to think of, or even consider, the one true and factual thing every single one of us is going to experience. And that is that we are going to die. (No prophecy or interpretations necessary... it's coming.) And those typing here are almost guaranteed to die before the calendar rolls over to 3000... most, way before.
I would, personally, want to be very, very conscious and aware of the fact that God might have been talking quite directly to me, about my life, in a dream before I would be trying to make it out to be another of the thousands of "End Times" flag waving fanaticisms that have been going on for millennia.
I would, personally, want to be very, very conscious and aware of the fact that God might have been talking quite directly to me, about my life, in a dream before I would be trying to make it out to be another of the thousands of "End Times" flag waving fanaticisms that have been going on for millennia.
Um.... I wouldn't follow that advice JF:
"The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Your response to what he posted is warranted. What he is saying sounds like one who is using the grace of God as a license to sin. Though we have the grace of God, the correct spirit is to resist sin as much as we can. Yes we are sinners, but with the power of God we ought to be endeavoring to overcome and to live a life free of sin as much as possible.
"But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!"
"The law was brought in so that the trespass might increase. But where sin increased, grace increased all the more, so that, just as sin reigned in death, so also grace might reign through righteousness to bring eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.
Your response to what he posted is warranted. What he is saying sounds like one who is using the grace of God as a license to sin. Though we have the grace of God, the correct spirit is to resist sin as much as we can. Yes we are sinners, but with the power of God we ought to be endeavoring to overcome and to live a life free of sin as much as possible.
"But if our unrighteousness brings out God’s righteousness more clearly, what shall we say? That God is unjust in bringing his wrath on us? (I am using a human argument.) Certainly not! If that were so, how could God judge the world? Someone might argue, “If my falsehood enhances God’s truthfulness and so increases his glory, why am I still condemned as a sinner?” Why not say—as some slanderously claim that we say—“Let us do evil that good may result”? Their condemnation is just!"
K
Well I read through the thread and seen a handful jumping on JF Survivor for no good reason.
Words of advice:
1) People learn to know the difference of building on the foundation from adding to God's word.
(If you claim JF is guilty of adding then we all are guilty each time we listen to what another says about scripture and take it as truth.)
Following people blindly is dangerous, and if Martin Luther made such a statement as mentioned by Stonemason I would suggest not to listen to Luther's teaching as that contradicts the Apostle Paul's teachings.
We should never take what someone says, not even personal pastors of our churches, as truth without testing it by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
2) Dreams and visions are very biblical !!!
Scripture clearly states in the last days many people will have them. We are in the last days !!!
Sinning is never acceptable, not even under God's grace.
Jude1:4 states anybody that teaches God's grace in such a way to allow sinful behavior to continue is marked for condemnation !!!
Words of advice:
1) People learn to know the difference of building on the foundation from adding to God's word.
(If you claim JF is guilty of adding then we all are guilty each time we listen to what another says about scripture and take it as truth.)
Following people blindly is dangerous, and if Martin Luther made such a statement as mentioned by Stonemason I would suggest not to listen to Luther's teaching as that contradicts the Apostle Paul's teachings.
We should never take what someone says, not even personal pastors of our churches, as truth without testing it by the Holy Spirit and the Word of God.
2) Dreams and visions are very biblical !!!
Scripture clearly states in the last days many people will have them. We are in the last days !!!
Sinning is never acceptable, not even under God's grace.
Jude1:4 states anybody that teaches God's grace in such a way to allow sinful behavior to continue is marked for condemnation !!!
Everyone seems to like to be so very literal and technically precise about what the Bible says (Maybe a little "tongue-in-cheek", there?) but I was wondering just WHICH PEOPLE the Bible said would be dreaming dreams in the "Last Days?" And why we don't seem to take THAT passage literally? (It's in Joel.... as well as referred to at Pentecost in Acts.)
K
By the statement given and what you said it made it to sound as if we are allowed to keep sinning.
Nowhere in the bible, especially not by Paul, does the bible say that.
It expressly says not to continue sinning over and over again, and clearly warns if we do !!!
Paul nowhere gave permission for sinning to continue, as he said if you do that is still your master that will lead to eternal death.
Walking by the flesh (sinfulness) keeps one enmity to God, that is what Paul said.
Nowhere in the bible, especially not by Paul, does the bible say that.
It expressly says not to continue sinning over and over again, and clearly warns if we do !!!
Paul nowhere gave permission for sinning to continue, as he said if you do that is still your master that will lead to eternal death.
Walking by the flesh (sinfulness) keeps one enmity to God, that is what Paul said.