Essence of the holy spirit

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Blain

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I have noticed a lot of threads about the holy spirit, and it led to realize i hardly know him at all:O I pray to Jesus i pray to god knowing in my heart its all the same to god if i pray to him or Jesus, but i hardly and rarely ever speak to the holy ghost who resides in me. Now when i think of the holy spirit i can only seem to imagine the essence or rather his main form as a combination of holy fire, wind, and power. I ask god all the time to let me know him to the fullest extent. I want to know god the father, Jesus the son and the holy spirit each to the fullest extent i am able to. I know the holy spirit is a gentleman so i know i have to ask him to help me. I recently asked him to reveal to me himself- not as proof he is real but so i may know him much better. I asked him this sentence exactly: As blood flows through my veins I ask that you holy spirit flow through my veins as well. I then imagined what that would look like, The best way to describe it is imagine looking at yourself but only seeing the form of your body and the many veins that go through it. Now imagine instead of seeing blood flowing through it you see power and the holy spirit flowing through your veins. I may have been imagining it but after i imagine that- and even now if i look at the veins in my arms i see him flowing through it. Now i left the rest up to god, but i am excited to see what the outcome will be but i finished my prayer with probably the most important part: But let the fathers will be done not my own because his will is always better and always turns out the best. So what do you guys think about this? Have I asked for something that will distract me or was it something that will only bring me closer to god? And i also want to add that earlier in my walk with god i was actually afraid of god's will being done because i was afraid he wanted me to be used in an uncomfortable way such as spreading the gospel to other people. But now i love it when his will is done and i am dying to be used now LOL
 
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Blain, nice to see you again...


Let us look at what the Bible says about the Holy Spirit in a man...
Firstly when the holy Spirit is given to a man, it is a QUICKENING Spirit... A LIFE GIVING SPIRIT.

Now! When you were born God gave you a spirit, a let us say you were born in a house where one parent was a child of God, so you were born PURE.... God gave you a pure spirit, but you fouled it up with sin. So you are on your way where all sinners go.... HELL!

But then God called you and now you start to repent from your evil works, iniquity, sin and fleshly lusts.... God called you, but He also gave you HIS Spirit to LEAD you.... Jesus said take up your cross DAILY and FOLLOW Him.... Follow means HE LEADS (The Holy Spirit is BOTH JESUS AND HTE FATHER)

Now He leads you OUT of sin and INTO RIGHTEOUSNESS/Truth. If you endure the FOLLOWING you will eventually crucify the WHOLE OF THE SINNING SPIRIT, the old you, and yuo will be SPIRITUALLY DEAD IN YOU FLESH.....

God gave us an example of the grain of weat, if it not falls to the ground AND DIE, it CANNOT produce fruit... IF WE DO NOT DIE SPRITUALLY, the LIFEGIVING Spirit CANNOT enter.... So we have to DIE OFF ALL our evil ways and fleshly lusts, BEFORE God can REVIVE, Regenerate of REBORN Jesus INTO US... The Holy Spirit into us...

Once God did that, we are mature/perfect/Born of God/ filled with Holy Spirit. That is the Truth and 100% scriptural correct.

As long as you sin, you have to DIE SOME FIRST!!! Die off the sin... Fleshly lusts... But if you die off the old man FOR HIS NAME SAKE... You will be a NEW creature IN CHRIST ... Not being made new.... YOU ARE MADE NEW... Exactly in the image of the NEW man.. The fulness of Christ Jesus!
 
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kenisyes

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Have I asked for something that will distract me or was it something that will only bring me closer to god?
Being very old compared to you, I sometimes sing old TV commercials, like from the 1950's. When quick-cook rice first came out, they sang, "even if you cook it wrong, it comes out right". I have not sung this in years, but it came into my head earlier today, probably so I could tell you about it now. Well, whatever you think of rice, this phrase is absolutely true of the Holy Spirit: Luke 11:11-13, you couldn't mess this up if you tried.
 
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To me the "Holy Spirit" can represent different things.


This is what John Said about Jesus, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with Fire."

There is Obviously Two Different 'ESSENCES' that is being talked about here. Surely John is not talking about Jesus putting a Literal Flame or Fire on someone.

One KEY thing you should understand Blane, is that the Spirit is not material...And has no Image...Just as the Wind cannot be seen yet moves around the Physical world...

The Word "Spirit" Is used many times in the Gospels. Sometimes referring to the Holy spirit, other times to Evil Spirits. Spirit was a word that was used in Times past to explain many things...For example Alcohol is today still called "Spirits."

This is what Jesus said about the "Spirit" in the Gospels, "The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear it's sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit."~John 3:8

"But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all of Truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come. ~John 16:13

One would want to Think "Holy spirit" is the 'Essence of Life' the "Breathe of Life" but it seems Jesus is saying It is something different...But Of course with the Subject of "Spirit" it's hard to find concrete meaning.

It seems he is saying the "Spirit" Guides you to the Complete "Truth" or a Complete Knowledge and Understanding...



Now according to John there is "FIRE" AND the Spirit...What is this "Fire?" Remember the Gospels are very Metaphorical and written in Parables...

Well to ME Fire is symbolic of the Essences of Life...Your "Life Force" is another word that can be Used.
Also you may be interested in the Asian Concept of "CHI" which is the same thing Basically...Chi is "Breathe" "Air" "Life Force"
Many Buddhist Monks and Others Claim that One's Chi can be used to Heal other Human beings by Touch and Transfer of the Energy to another Being...
Interesting when you take this Story of Jesus into account,
"At once Jesus realized That the Healing Power had gone out from him. He turned around in the crowd and asked, "Who touched my clothes?"~Mark 5:30
The woman who touched his Cloak was Healed obviously.

Of course there are other stores in the Gospels where people Touch Jesus and are Healed.




I also Thought of something that might be interesting to you if you like Lord of the Rings

J.R.R. Tolkien created his own World and Mythology...

In it he had a Creator Deity called 'Illuvatar'

Illuvator Gave every Living Creature the Gift of "Secret Fire" which is the 'Life Essence' and that Which gives all of Life Free Will and Happiness.

Gandalf was the Servant of Illuvator...The Power Gandalf wielded was the Secret Fire. (Though Of course all life has "Secret Fire") This is how He Lit up his Staff when he Guided the Fellowship through the Mines of Moria.

Gandalf to me always represented an aspect of the Creator...Or an Angel that's purpose is to Guide Humanity.



Secret Fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Lord of the RIngs - Gandalf vs Balrog (Crisp 480p) - YouTube
 
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cfultz3

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Being very old compared to you, I sometimes sing old TV commercials, like from the 1950's. When quick-cook rice first came out, they sang, "even if you cook it wrong, it comes out right". I have not sung this in years, but it came into my head earlier today, probably so I could tell you about it now. Well, whatever you think of rice, this phrase is absolutely true of the Holy Spirit: Luke 11:11-13, you couldn't mess this up if you tried.
Since you brought older up, you seem a little older now than in your pic yesterday....Is life that stressful.....

nice new pic :)
 

Blain

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Well i was never into the lord of the ringsLOL And as for chi and the buddhist and stuff..... I never really cared much for that stuff. I felt it would distract me from pursuing god.
 
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Well i was never into the lord of the ringsLOL And as for chi and the buddhist and stuff..... I never really cared much for that stuff. I felt it would distract me from pursuing god.
Well...Take from my post what you are able to.
 
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kenisyes

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Since you brought older up, you seem a little older now than in your pic yesterday....Is life that stressful.....

nice new pic :)
That picture was two years old. If you go to my website, you will see a picture with my wife, taken the same day. She has been dead over 8 months now. The new one is not quite 8 hours old right now. I like this one better, I look more pensive. I'm willing to put it to a vote.
 
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cfultz3

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That picture was two years old. If you go to my website, you will see a picture with my wife, taken the same day. She has been dead over 8 months now. The new one is not quite 8 hours old right now. I like this one better, I look more pensive. I'm willing to put it to a vote.
I agree to pensive and a strict principal...keep the new one