Every Man For Himself Bible Versionism
By Will Kinney
Part 2.
Daniel “Anything but the KJB” Wallace’s NET version still reads “moved with compassion” but he reveals the “No reading is sure” and “every man for himself” mentality in his footnote on this verse when he says: The reading found in almost the entire NT ms traditionis σπλαγχνισθείς (splancnisqei",“moved with compassion”). Codex Bezae (D), and a few Latin mss (a ff2 r1*) here read ὀργισθείς (ojrgisqei", “moved with anger”). It is more difficult to account for a change from “moved with compassion” to “moved with anger” than it is for a copyist to soften “moved with anger” to “moved with compassion,” making the decision quite difficult. B. M. Metzger (TCGNT 65) suggests that “moved with anger” could have been prompted by 1:43, “Jesus sent the man away with a very strong warning.” It also could have been prompted by the man’s seeming doubt about Jesus’ desire to heal him (v. 40). As well, it is difficult to explain why scribes would be prone to soften the text here but not in Mark 3:5 or 10:14 (where Jesus is also said to be angry or indignant). Thus, in light of diverse mss supporting “moved with compassion,” and at least a plausible explanation for ὀργισθείς as arising from the other reading, it is perhaps best to adopt σπλαγχνισθείς as the original reading. Nevertheless, a decision in this case is not easy. For the best arguments for ὀργισθείς, however, see M. A. Proctor, “The ‘Western’ Text of Mark 1:41: A Case for the Angry Jesus” (Ph.D. diss., Baylor University, 1999)."Part 2.
So the modern day "scholarship mindset" seems to be that if, in spite of tons of manuscript evidence to the contrary, and the examples of Jesus being angry are in an entirely different context, if a reading is unaccountably ridiculous, it just might be the correct reading." Things just keep getting better and better, right? ;-)
The New KJV "Every man for himself" mentality
Notice these words from the NEW KJV 1982 on page 1235: "It was the editors' conviction that the use of footnotes would encourage further inquiry by readers. THEY ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS EASIER FOR THE AVERAGE READER TO DELETE SOMETHING HE OR SHE FELT WAS NOT PROPERLY A PART OF THE TEXT, than to insert a word or phrase which had been left out by the revisers."
These footnotes in the NKJV generally have to do with the 3000 - 5000 words that have been omitted from the New Testament in such versions as the NIV, NASB, ESV. The NKJV editors are of the opinion that THE AVERAGE READER can DELETE something he FEELS is not part of the text.
In contrast to the divergent, ever-changing, "Let's include verses even we don't think are authentic", every man for himself mindset of ALL modern versionists, the King James Bible believer actually believes God has providentially kept His promises to preserve His inerrant, complete and 100% true words in the BOOK OF THE LORD.
"Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls. But they said, We will not walk therein." Jeremiah 6:16
Will Kinney
Notes from a Christian forum where we were discussing the Bible version issue;
Donald writes: "I guess I am pretty insistent on DOCTRINE, because doctrine is what the modern day church has neglected. It seems to me that the average Christian these days is more into "feelings," and "experiences," than into doctrinal understanding based on propositional language."
Brother, I agree. Absolute Truth is what characterizes the true God. He cannot lie. Satan, on the other hand, is a liar and the father of it. He mixes lies and truth together and he raises doubt, sows unbelief and takes away the word of God sown in the heart. These are his characteristics.
The very first question recorded in the whole Bible is "Yea, hath God said...?"
Because of the multitude of conflicting bible versions on the market today most Christians are now asking themselves this same question - "Has God said....?"
The Bible itself tells us that there will be a falling away from the faith in the last days before the return of Christ, and it is happening now.
God Himself will send a famine of hearing the words of God. "Behold the days come, saith the Lord GOD, that I will send a famine in the land, not a famine of bread, nor a thirst for water, but of hearing the words of the LORD. And they shall wander from sea to sea, and from the north even to the east, they shall run to and fro to seek the word of the LORD, and shall not find it." Amos 8:11-12.
With the multitude of conflicting bible versions more and more Christians do not believe in the infallibility of any real and tangible Bible in any language, and they read their inferior versions less and less and believe them less and less.
No one is going to stop this downward tailspin into full blown apostasy. God has appointed it. However He will always have a believing remnant. This is not to say that people who use and ignorantly embrace the modern versions are lost or not redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. But their faith in God's pure and 100% true words will be weakened and their spiritual sword of the Spirit will be replaced with something akin to a butter knife.
It is the lies found in all modern versions that prove them to be false witnesses to the Truth of God.
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"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15
All of grace,
Will Kinney
Notes from the internet -
Gary Lehman posts: "I believe we have preservation...many...many copies that survived infidels and time!"
And that folks is where the typical Bible Agnostic stands today. Thousands of variant readings, omissions and additions that only a few select men can even read and not one of them has ever even seen them all. No Book. No Bible. Just many, many copies he has in most cases just heard about. He would need a large dump truck just to carry them around with him if he could ever get his hands on them. Oh, and when it comes to deciding WHICH of these thousands of variant readings is the TRUE one, who gets to decide? You got it. EACH MAN becomes his own final authority and HE gets to make that final decision. And of course his own personal preference will often differ from the next guy, but that's how the scholar's game is played.
"In those days there was no king in Israel; every man did that which was right in his own eyes." Judges 21:25
More notes from the internet forums:
Hi "Rev" Jim. You post: "Over and over come the posts with one perspective: We KNOW the KJV is perfect, therefore everything different is wrong, and if you don't agree with us, you are wrong.
Stop.
Jim Harris
Hi Jim. Somehow I sense you are getting frustrated with your stated position of "only in the originals" and it is slowing dawning on you that your really do not have a complete, inspired and infallible bible to give to anyone. You cannot logically defend your position and so the frustration turns into anger.
I believe this is your statement of faith from your church website, right?
"The Holy Scriptures
We teach that the Bible is God's written revelation to man, and thus the 66 books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the plenary (inspired equally in all parts) Word of God (1Corinthians 2:7-14; 2 Peter 1:20-21).
We teach that the Word of God is an objective, propositional revelation (1 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13), verbally inspired in every word (2 Timothy 3:16), absolutely INERRANT IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, INFALLIBLE, and God breathed."
Again, you have nothing more than empty air as the foundation of your "holy Scriptures". Why do you mix up present tense verbs like "IS", "constitute" and "IS" again, as though the Scriptures are something that EXIST now, and then take it all away in one fell swoop with four betraying words - "in the original documents"?
Again, isn't this placing your faith in something that you know does not exist? If you were to be honest with yourself and others about your present belief system, you would have to adjust your confession of faith in the inerrancy of Scripture to read more like this:
The Holy Scriptures: "IF the originals HAD BEEN (but they never were) preserved and gathered into a single book making up the 66 book canon, then THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN the inerrant words of God. We therefore affirm that this hypothetical Bible would have been the inspired and inerrant words of God if the originals hadn't been lost to the ravages of time and in the shuffle of bungling scribes, and you COULD HAVE believed in every word IF it had ever existed, Amen."
Now, THAT would be more in keeping with what most present day Christians REALLY believe about "the bible", isn't it.
What happened to the sovereignty of God in this whole process? Did He or did He not promise to preserve His words in "the book of the LORD"? Did God lie to us? Was He using hyperbole or exaggerating?
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." The stated pratfall position of "only in the originals" makes God a liar and man an unbeliever, or at least an agnostic regarding his belief in "the Scriptures (that) cannot be broken." John 10:35
"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15
Hi "Rev" Jim. You post: "Over and over come the posts with one perspective: We KNOW the KJV is perfect, therefore everything different is wrong, and if you don't agree with us, you are wrong. Stop.
Jim Harris
Hi Jim. Somehow I sense you are getting frustrated with your stated position of "only in the originals" and it is slowing dawning on you that your really do not have a complete, inspired and infallible bible to give to anyone. You cannot logically defend your position and so the frustration turns into anger.
I believe this is your statement of faith from your church website, right?
"The Holy Scriptures We teach that the Bible is God's written revelation to man, and thus the 66 books of the Bible given to us by the Holy Spirit constitute the plenary (inspired equally in all parts) Word of God (1Corinthians 2:7-14; 2 Peter 1:20-21).
We teach that the Word of God is an objective, propositional revelation (1 Thessalonians 2:13; 1 Corinthians 2:13), verbally inspired in every word (2 Timothy 3:16), absolutely INERRANT IN THE ORIGINAL DOCUMENTS, INFALLIBLE, and God breathed."
Again, you have nothing more than empty air as the foundation of your "holy Scriptures". Why do you mix up present tense verbs like "IS", "constitute" and "IS" again, as though the Scriptures are something that EXIST now, and then take it all away in one fell swoop with four betraying words - "in the original documents"?
Again, isn't this placing your faith in something that you know does not exist? If you were to be honest with yourself and others about your present belief system, you would have to adjust your confession of faith in the inerrancy of Scripture to read more like this:
The Holy Scriptures: "IF the originals HAD BEEN (but they never were) preserved and gathered into a single book making up the 66 book canon, then THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN the inerrant words of God. We therefore affirm that this hypothetical Bible would have been the inspired and inerrant words of God if the originals hadn't been lost to the ravages of time and in the shuffle of bungling scribes, and you COULD HAVE believed in every word IF it had ever existed, Amen."
Now, THAT would be more in keeping with what most present day Christians REALLY believe about "the bible", isn't it.
What happened to the sovereignty of God in this whole process? Did He or did He not promise to preserve His words in "the book of the LORD"? Did God lie to us? Was He using hyperbole or exaggerating?
"Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away." The stated pratfall position of "only in the originals" makes God a liar and man an unbeliever, or at least an agnostic regarding his belief in "the Scriptures (that) cannot be broken." John 10:35
"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 11:15
Will Kinney
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