Evolution fact or fiction?
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The one that's in your heart, there is no perfect church, there is no perfect translation. You must have faith.It is impossible to please God with out faith. I cannot tell you which church to go to. You must find one that is on fire and PPL get saved on a regular basis. Or you can watch on the net. Dude it's not about a church it's about you and Him. I f you place your faith in Him , He will lead you to a church. It's all about faith.
The Bible was written for all but only few hear His Words. Some are meant to remain blind and deaf for now, and some are meant to see. You have to trust Him, open your heart. Yes, place faith in Him and His Words. They are filled with life and love. Don't worry about the people, just open up His book (it's ok to skip around & is fine to skip to the New Testament). While your opening that, open your heart as well. We have to seek Him passionately, and not just give up because of whatever reason. We must live to seek Him. I know a bunch about Him (not boasting) because I've seeked Him with all I am, but I still seek because I want to know more of His love, His understanding. It's a constant because there's always something else.
You just have to start with faith of a mustard seed, just believe, just believe. Then put all your heart into asking Him in to your life. Then start reading and don't give up! This is how your relationship with our Messiah will start. Your heart has to be in the right place (very important). I will pray for you Mr. Kedge, that you seek Him with all you are.
You just have to start with faith of a mustard seed, just believe, just believe. Then put all your heart into asking Him in to your life. Then start reading and don't give up! This is how your relationship with our Messiah will start. Your heart has to be in the right place (very important). I will pray for you Mr. Kedge, that you seek Him with all you are.
That explains a lot then, I suppose now is not the right time for me.
It is a great book and there is more to it than at first glance, I get a strong sense feeling about that but I don't feel as though I have any authority to interpret the Bible and how I should interpret holy scripture and Holy Spirit is just something that is beyond my grasp at the moment, I honestly do not know what that really means, I guess I lack faith/trust. I have been at this for over twenty years, the only slight comfort is knowing that moses was in the wilderness for forty years. I see things slightly different than twenty years ago but I question things much more now than I ever have done.
It is a great book and there is more to it than at first glance, I get a strong sense feeling about that but I don't feel as though I have any authority to interpret the Bible and how I should interpret holy scripture and Holy Spirit is just something that is beyond my grasp at the moment, I honestly do not know what that really means, I guess I lack faith/trust. I have been at this for over twenty years, the only slight comfort is knowing that moses was in the wilderness for forty years. I see things slightly different than twenty years ago but I question things much more now than I ever have done.
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Don't just box yourself off like that, let your heart be the judge on if it's the right time. God loves you, He cares about you very much. He wants you to know Him, and it's hard to get to know him with flesh eyes, He's not of the flesh, He's of the Spirit and truth. I'm glad you think it's a great book, because it's the greatest Book we will ever know. He lives in that Book, His great Words dwell there. Don't worry about interpretation right now, just read it for what it is. Know that He died for you and me, took lashes, got up on that cross, spit on and cursed at by the world and done so not for His own, but for you and me.
When we accept Him truly into our hearts and let Him pour in, The Holy Spirit will come. It starts with faith just worry about knowing and believing what He has done for us. He died a flesh death and the worst death I've heard known to man, ridiculed and mocked as He carried that cross, a innocent Jesus who only helped, all He ever did was help. Just start there, don't rush the Spirit, take your time with this Mr. Kedge
When we accept Him truly into our hearts and let Him pour in, The Holy Spirit will come. It starts with faith just worry about knowing and believing what He has done for us. He died a flesh death and the worst death I've heard known to man, ridiculed and mocked as He carried that cross, a innocent Jesus who only helped, all He ever did was help. Just start there, don't rush the Spirit, take your time with this Mr. Kedge
I find it very hard to believe that anyone who has the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit would ever believe and teach Evolution as a truth.
John 14:26
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Can a person who teaches God did not create anything, that Evolution was how everything came into being, be filled with the Holy Spirit?
I believe those who teach Evolution are the False Prophets Jesus warns us about in Matthew 7:15-23.
John 14:26
[SUP]26 [/SUP]But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.
Can a person who teaches God did not create anything, that Evolution was how everything came into being, be filled with the Holy Spirit?
I believe those who teach Evolution are the False Prophets Jesus warns us about in Matthew 7:15-23.
This is about Bible interpretation.
Literal or symbolic, or both.
Can anyone "prove" that all creation was made in 6 literal 24 hour days? no.
Science and evolution (guided by God), don't prove the Bible wrong.
It only shows that the literal interpretation of the creation is, "maybe in need of some adjustment."
The earth is not flat.
Should we hold on to the past ideas of 200 yrs ago, and not try to understand in the light of new ideas and knowledge?
Literal or symbolic, or both.
Can anyone "prove" that all creation was made in 6 literal 24 hour days? no.
Science and evolution (guided by God), don't prove the Bible wrong.
It only shows that the literal interpretation of the creation is, "maybe in need of some adjustment."
The earth is not flat.
Should we hold on to the past ideas of 200 yrs ago, and not try to understand in the light of new ideas and knowledge?
that is a very interesting .
The Bible tells us in Matt 7:13-14
:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broadis the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] The world is always trying to get man to look at things in the way other than what the Word of God says things came to be.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] We hear it all the time !!! you are to narrow minded you need to have a broader outlook don't be so narrow minded.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] Jesus warned us about such things. The context of Creation is that God is the cause of the effect of what we see known as Creation. man attempt to broaden this truth has opened up the possibility that something else other than God did it. Well If God did not do it and IF our human understanding cannot rationally understand how God did it then God did not do it.
BUt as Rom 1 tells us WE know GOd exist . But man has chosen to accept a lie which will lead to destruction .
Jesus said the road is narrow that Leads to life Jesus is the way the truth and the Life. No other explanation is needed. [/FONT]
The Bible tells us in Matt 7:13-14
:13 Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broadis the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: 14. Because strait is the gate, and narrow is[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] The world is always trying to get man to look at things in the way other than what the Word of God says things came to be.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] We hear it all the time !!! you are to narrow minded you need to have a broader outlook don't be so narrow minded.[/FONT]
[FONT=arial, helvetica, sans serif] Jesus warned us about such things. The context of Creation is that God is the cause of the effect of what we see known as Creation. man attempt to broaden this truth has opened up the possibility that something else other than God did it. Well If God did not do it and IF our human understanding cannot rationally understand how God did it then God did not do it.
BUt as Rom 1 tells us WE know GOd exist . But man has chosen to accept a lie which will lead to destruction .
Jesus said the road is narrow that Leads to life Jesus is the way the truth and the Life. No other explanation is needed. [/FONT]
Brothers and Sisters ,
Of course Jesus created everything.
But how did He create it?
Let me ask you three questions, which one would you agree with? (Gen 1:1-31, 2:1-3)
1. There is no symbolism of any kind in the creation story.
2. There is some symbolism in the creation story.
3. It is all symbolic.
Brother John
Of course Jesus created everything.
But how did He create it?
Let me ask you three questions, which one would you agree with? (Gen 1:1-31, 2:1-3)
1. There is no symbolism of any kind in the creation story.
2. There is some symbolism in the creation story.
3. It is all symbolic.
Brother John
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Oh, for the love of God!
Scripture interprets Scripture. The whole Bible speaks to a young creation. Maybe we should view Science through the lens of the Bible (rather than the other way around). We are, after all, meant to think biblically. Bringing in the flat earth argument is cheap and false. Most ancient cultures believed in a round earth by 600BC. The flat earth was a pagan invention and more recently made a comeback amongst atheists. Maybe some believe in a flat earth, but I'd say most just do it to poke fun at their (completely misinformed) understanding of Christianity and the Bible.
Scripture interprets Scripture. The whole Bible speaks to a young creation. Maybe we should view Science through the lens of the Bible (rather than the other way around). We are, after all, meant to think biblically. Bringing in the flat earth argument is cheap and false. Most ancient cultures believed in a round earth by 600BC. The flat earth was a pagan invention and more recently made a comeback amongst atheists. Maybe some believe in a flat earth, but I'd say most just do it to poke fun at their (completely misinformed) understanding of Christianity and the Bible.
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2) Early Genesis is historical narrative. As historical narrative, it all happened, but as with anything in the Bible, there's some symbolism there too. There are different layers of depth, but that doesn't negate that a plain reading of early Genesis is necessary to understand the narrative in its context. Biblical hermeneutics is the way to go.