Fasting

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PurerInHeart

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Fresh squeezed vegetable juice is sugar water??
I meant fruit juice. My daughter's doctor says she needs fruit but not fruit juice because that's just sugar-water. I make green smoothies with spinach leaves, carrots, cucumber, almonds (I have a powerful blender), and protein powder, but I do sweeten it with bananas to make it tolerable. But that is eating, not fasting. Fasting is only water.
 

Born_Again

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I am of the mind that just about every Christian, health permitting, should do a water or juice fast of at least 3 or 4 days at least once in their life.
The physical and spiritual benefits are to profound not to.
Does this include smoothies? Its essentially fruit juice....
 
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wwjd_kilden

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As others have mentioned: The idea of fast is to deny the flesh and focus on God.

So, in out modern world, that technically means you can "fast" on internet, tv, cell phones etc.

Also, remember that the ways the Jews normally fasted, they did eat between sunset and sunrise

Fasting & Fast Days | Jewish Virtual Library

Ordinary fast days lasted for the duration of the daylight hours; the important fasts were a full 24 hours. Fasts were held either for one day or sometimes for a series of three or seven days; occasionally even daily for a continued period
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The Bible emphasizes that the fast is not an end in itself but only a means through which man can humble his heart and repent for his sins; his repentance must manifest itself in his deeds (Joel 2:13; Jonah 3:8). The idea is especially stressed in Isaiah (58:3ff.) where the contrast is made between a fast which is not accompanied by any real repentance, and which is therefore unacceptable to God, and the true fast which leads to God's merciful forgiveness: "Is not this the fast that I have chosen? To loose the fetters of wickedness, To undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the oppressed go free… Is it not to deal thy bread to the hungry, and that thou bring the poor that are cast out to thy house? When thou seest the naked, that thou cover him… Then shalt thou call, and the Lord will answer."
 
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I know mankind has named many kinds of fasts, but I think the only fast is drinking only pure water and eating no food.
Although fasting In that manner would still strengthen your faith,remember,fasting should be done for the purpose of making you stronger spiritually,some people can only fast to a degree because of health reasons.
 
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PurerInHeart

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Although fasting In that manner would still strengthen your faith,remember,fasting should be done for the purpose of making you stronger spiritually,some people can only fast to a degree because of health reasons.
Oh most definitely. I wasn't giving the instructions for fasting, and the following people should never fast...

*anyone still growing taller

*those pregnant or nursing

*the elderly

*those who are not monitored by their doctor
 
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PurerInHeart

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I'm just saying the definition of fasting is only pure water no food. Anything else is just dieting.
 

Magenta

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I'm just saying the definition of fasting is only pure water no food. Anything else is just dieting.
Not according to the dictionary:

fast
verb (used without object)
1. to abstain from all food.

2. to eat only sparingly or of certain kinds of food, especially as a religious observance.

verb (used with object)
3. to cause to abstain entirely from or limit food; put on a fast:
to fast a patient for a day before surgery.

noun
4. an abstinence from food, or a limiting of one's food, especially
when voluntary and as a religious observance; fasting.


5. a day or period of fasting.

Some people call it a fast to eat as much as they want at certain times
of day and abstain during other times of day over a specified period.
 

JosephsDreams

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Does this include smoothies? Its essentially fruit juice....
Best to fast with fresh squeezed vegetable juice. Adding some apple, and only apple, for a fruit is okay.
I don't have time, I can't get into the reasons why.
But fasting with raw, unfrozen fruit juices can be fine to, but I would not recommend for most people.
For the combination of safety, and spiritual and physical and emotional results, I think veggie juice is the most preferred.
 

JosephsDreams

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Yes I have. My longest stretch was 12 days. I wasn't doing it to pray but to lose weight.
God bless you. Many people would have a hard doing that for 12 days. God has blessed you in this area.
While I agree that a water fast is the most potent in many areas, I don't usually recommend them, for a number of reason, but you sound like one of the exceptions. Your age was a benefit too.
 

Magenta

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I was in my mid forties when I did the ten day fast :D
 
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Church2u2

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I have fasted from food 3 days although I drank water.I have also abstained from watching my favorite t.v programs. The no food fast was coupled with 3 times a day prayer because I was petitioning the lord for something in particular which He fulfilled for me.
 

Jon4TheCross

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Both the work of Christ began with baptism and fasting, and so did the work of Paul the apostle (the apostle to the Gentiles).

If you have not fasted blind (from fleshly sight) and drank and ate nothing for 3 days, I would advise it...or do what Jesus did...be baptized and then go out into solitude in the wilderness for 40 days and nights fasting. These examples of the body language of The Word of God will not return unto Him void.
 
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PurerInHeart

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Not according to the dictionary:

fast
verb (used without object)
1. to abstain from all food.

2. to eat only sparingly or of certain kinds of food, especially as a religious observance.

verb (used with object)
3. to cause to abstain entirely from or limit food; put on a fast:
to fast a patient for a day before surgery.

noun
4. an abstinence from food, or a limiting of one's food, especially
when voluntary and as a religious observance; fasting.


5. a day or period of fasting.

Some people call it a fast to eat as much as they want at certain times
of day and abstain during other times of day over a specified period.
Like I said, mankind has other definitions for fasting, but can you show me in the bible?
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Both the work of Christ began with baptism and fasting, and so did the work of Paul the apostle (the apostle to the Gentiles).

If you have not fasted blind (from fleshly sight) and drank and ate nothing for 3 days, I would advise it...or do what Jesus did...be baptized and then go out into solitude in the wilderness for 40 days and nights fasting. These examples of the body language of The Word of God will not return unto Him void.
Hardly doable in todays society. Jesus didn't have to get up at six am every morning and go to work for seven- eight hours when fasting. Imagine if a nurse or surgeon was fasting for that long. I sure wouldn't want them to be handling me.
 
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Tintin

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Both the work of Christ began with baptism and fasting, and so did the work of Paul the apostle (the apostle to the Gentiles).

If you have not fasted blind (from fleshly sight) and drank and ate nothing for 3 days, I would advise it...or do what Jesus did...be baptized and then go out into solitude in the wilderness for 40 days and nights fasting. These examples of the body language of The Word of God will not return unto Him void.
That's terrible advice! I hope no-one takes your advice. Otherwise, you'll have to answer for all of the dead bodies in the wilderness areas.
 
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wwjd_kilden

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Apparently a really obese guy fasted for a full year
.... but he was in a hospital
...and was given vitamins and minerals and whatnot
... and he had plenty of fat to live off

so yeah...

folks, rather listen to your doctors than strangers online
 
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Like I said, mankind has other definitions for fasting, but can you show me in the bible?
Hi Ladybug

My two cents.

I hope you can bear with me .My grammar suffers. I apoligize in advance for the rambling.

I am no expert but fasting from my own experience and searching the scriptures is one of those things that are easily misunderstood. This is especially true I believe if a person does not have a proper understanding of how and why God used the temporal law as ceremonial or ritual pertaining to the flesh .

The apostate Jews through the oral tradition of their fathers were constantly changing the requirements of the fast. Therefore making the word of God to no effect, as Christ nemesis .

Like all the ceremonial laws set forth as parables..... they speak of the suffering of Christ beforehand, the spiritual meaning is hid.

Fasting as something we do outwardly is in a spiritual way used represents forgiveness from God. (the eternal not seen) The purpose of the fast is to glorify Him not seen.. Our work of fasting is a shadow that points to the spiritual work of God.

Afflicting our souls although required, it is not source for loosening the bonds of the father of lies. The gospel of Christ alone is. Those who say otherwise, the scriptures inform us in the end they have received their reward

Again the purpose of a fast is to show we have been forgiven as we offer them as the word of which worked in us caused the forgiveness (the gospel of hearing by faith)

For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Moreover when ye fast, be not, as the hypocrites, of a sad countenance: for they disfigure their faces, that they may appear unto men to fast. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. Mat 6:14

Our fast therefore is not unto ourselves. Put like prayer we go into our closets or private place in a hope that God will likewise forgive others when we offer the gospel of our salvation.

It I believe is why the disciples could not cast out the lying spirits, as demons.. Both prayer and fasting. With prayer being something we can do and fasting as something God does to loosen the bonds of sin.

Matthew 17:21 Howbeit this kind goeth not out but by prayer and fasting.

Mark 9:29 And he said unto them, This kind can come forth by “nothing”, but by prayer and fasting.

The doctrine of fasting seems to have its roots our foundation in “manna” as to how it is used and what it respects spiritually in the book of Exodus.. Which when the word manna is defined simply means ; “what is it”? To represent something that is not of our own selves like the scriptures, our daily bread, the living will of God.

Exodus 16:15 And when the children of Israel saw it, they said one to another, It is manna: “for they wist not what it was”. And Moses said unto them, This is the bread which the LORD hath given you to eat.

On the sixth day they were to gather twice as much so they could fast on the Sabbath which represented the eternal rest we have by walking by faith. God had set aside that day so that men did not have to do their regular work of a gathering manna . It did not mean they could do no work whatsoever just the work of feeding ourselves according to the work of gathering manna.

And it came to pass, that on the sixth day they gathered twice as much bread, two omers for one man: and all the rulers of the congregation came and told Moses.And he said unto them, This is that which the LORD hath said, To morrow is the rest of the holy sabbath unto the LORD: bake that which ye will bake to day, and seethe that ye will seethe; and that which remaineth over lay up for you to be kept until the morning. Exo 16:22

The one person used as an negative example when he gathered sticks I believe was not faulted for working but the sticks were more to be used to bake or possibly heat up the mana from the previous days. Some liked it hot perhaps. Whatever it was it was unauthorized fire sort of like when Aaron's sons when they changed the a offering by strange fire and they were also killed as example of what not to do.. .

And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the sabbath day.And they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. Num 15:32

The Jewish apostate fathers again performed that through an oral tradition of men (Christ nemesis). and turned it into an opportunity to make it about the flesh by adding addition requirements .Like the Sabbath walk giving it a distance which was up for grabs depending on which father the persons were measuring that kind of by and through. . (again Christ nemesis)

This was again as if the Sabbath was designed for a person, not to move, and a person should just rest up for the regular work needed to feed their bodies that will die. .. That I do not believe would describe the Sabbath rest we do have in Christ, as a rest from our own work we performed during the 6 days.. it would show they were not mixing faith in what they did hear.

They did that with many of the ceremonial laws that were required but again where used as parables in respect to the eternal substance not seen, the faith principle. I

It would be kind of like today putting requirements on what we could eat or how many times on the Sabbath would be acceptable by the fathers the leaders or how much is required or possibly adding some nutrition by adding it to water. .
The true fast does not reflect something we could do called a dead works .But rather the forgiveness we already have in Christ . As we offer the gospel by prayer that he will apply to the hearts of the hearer, the bond can be lifted , as the demons are cast out.