Femininity vs Masculinity

[Revelator7]

Ummm where do I even begin.... OK.... I think it is OK to let the man maybe hold the reins as were getting along Lil womaning it.... But that that you wrote pumpkin just set us back 60 years. A good man will not be afraid of a strong woman. They will support and love and charish just the same. To think that you have to be weak to get love from a man.....fragile, vulnerable, submissive (was hard to write that one) whatever you call it is just wrong! Good Godly men are not afraid of a beautiful, smart, witty sexy woman.... Just sayin

I don't think she was saying that being weak was the way to get love from a man. She was saying that because of the woman's feminine quality, that it would stir up the man in her life to be strong for her. The definition of feminine is having qualities or appearance traditionarlly associated with women, especially delicacy and prettiness. While the defintion for masculine is having qualities or appearance traditionally associated with men, especially strength and agressiveness. Therefore a woman unto delicacy and a man unto strength. Delicate means fragile. A woman needs a strong man, with strong hands to lift her up when she emotionally fragile. But beauty intellegence and sexiness aren't in my opinion the definition of a strong woman. A strong woman is a gentle and quiet spirit. Meekness isn't weakness, it is strength under control. Her strength is in her confidence. Her confidence of being that gentle and quiet spirit (1 Peter 3:4) which God finds precious and beautiful. A humble woman is a strong woman. She puts her trust in God not in her wits.

 

[Trinity33]

Wow. Really? You can speak for every person whose ever lived or alive? You know their intents and hearts and desires and thoughts? Billions of people and you can speak for every one of them? You just went from zero credibility to in the negative.
Funny though, if someone speaks to what feminists really are and want you take offense. Yet you are able to speak for every other person in existence. Classic. Troll on.

Soooooo this IS what its like in the Bible forums....lol the Bible!!!! Ridiculous! Just got nasty y'all can keep these threads for the angry people!

 

[gzusfrk]

And IMO men only dig it for so long then they want someone to take care of them lol!! Sorry guys ~smiles~

My wife and I have been taking care of each other for over 32 years. We take turns.

 

[elf3]

For WOC to write that takes and took more strength than what you feminists call strength. So who actually is the weaker here? Feminists or WOC?

 

[Revelator7]

Because I am a woman, I must make unusual efforts to succeed. If I fail, no one will say, "She doesn't have what it takes." They will say, "Women don't have what it takes." ~Clare Boothe Luce
I would like an explanation of why that is?

You deflected my question with another question. Answer my question first and I will answer you then.

 

[jsr1221]

Didn't God create Eve so that Adam wouldn't be alone? Doesn't that mean that men need women just as equally as women need men? Why is there always a post that turns into a gender debate on here?

 

[womanofchrist28]

1st and post important I would never be attracted to a man that I was stronger than so therefore I will be the weaker one
2nd I said that being weak is a characteristics of feminine
3rd I do not mind being the weaker one in a relationship I prefer it
4th I rather be a woman than a man in a biblical marriage both role are clearly important but a mans role is a lot harder and is way more stressful

 

[womanofchrist28]

Didn't God create Eve so that Adam wouldn't be alone? Doesn't that mean that men need women just as equally as women need men? Why is there always a post that turns into a gender debate on here?

Yes men and women are equal in God's eyes and they both need each other just as much

 

[Deadtosin]

Thank you it is sad to see such a young girl fall in to this trap and the saddest part is she will get married and actually be like this!! SWEETHEART WAKE UP no woman likes this stuff only men because they want to boss you around

That's not at all what I see it as. Man and woman were made differently, period. It's not to say that man wants to boss people around. I'm not interested in a woman I have to tell what to do all the time, but a person should know their strengths and weaknesses (sometimes that matters) there is a reason a woman is such a wonderful mother, WOC points out some of the traits only a mother really masters. A man is the protector, and he is the leader, especially when it really matters. I'm not talking about what t.v we need to buy or what color we are painting the walls, I'm not even talking about what we are eating for dinner, but if we are deciding what route we need to take given a certain situation (especially if its a serious one) then it's important to have one captain on the ship. Think about that. Why is there only one captain? is his opinion the only one that matters? not at all!! but if there is an ice berg ahead and one person yells "TURN PORT!" and another person says "TURN STARBOARD!" the boat doesn't turn and they sink. As a man it is important to me that I can protect what I love. I'm sorry that is deeply etched into who I am. Honestly it warms a mans heart when he has something vulnerable and beautiful to protect, here I'm not just talking about a woman, I'm talking children too. I'm talking about a man's heart. The bible says that Jesus is the head of the man as man is the head of his wife. Is that an insult to me? not at all! it's the way God made it to be...

I don't see anything in her post that makes me feel that she is belittling women or saying women should be slaves. She is accurately pointing out how God created man and woman to benefit from and appreciate each other.

 

[phil112]

Ummm where do I even begin.... OK.... I think it is OK to let the man maybe hold the reins as were getting along Lil womaning it.... But that that you wrote pumpkin just set us back 60 years. A good man will not be afraid of a strong woman. They will support and love and charish just the same. To think that you have to be weak to get love from a man.....fragile, vulnerable, submissive (was hard to write that one) whatever you call it is just wrong! Good Godly men are not afraid of a beautiful, smart, witty sexy woman.... Just sayin

Without men, women would literally be helpless. Men are made by God to be stronger. Of the sexes, one has to be able to put food on the table(I'm not talking about holding down a job, I'm talking about hunting), do what it takes to make shelter. Trinity, how many woman do you know that can chop down trees? Run a lumber mill? Overhaul an automobile engine? This whole idea that women are, or can be, equal to men is another tool of satan. That isn't the way God designed us and that isn't the way it is, or ever will be. This argument is old hat.

woc, i sometimes think about the fact Eve was deceived,
and recognize in myself a tendency toward that very thing.

thank God i can trust my husband to help me steer clear of it.

And thank God you have a husband that is able and willing to do that for the woman that he loves. You are the kind of woman desired by real men. One that recognizes and approves of his and her role in life. That kind of woman is hard to find, trust me, I've looked. It doesn't have anything to do with masculinity or feminism. It has to do with being a man and being a woman. I didn't ask for God to make me a man, that was His decision. Now it is up to me to do my best to fill the role He asks me to.

Oh, and I had something to say to the feminist, but I see she is no longer with us.

 

[crossnote]

Feminism has little regard for conservative women.

 

[Revelator7]

Thank you it is sad to see such a young girl fall in to this trap and the saddest part is she will get married and actually be like this!! SWEETHEART WAKE UP no woman likes this stuff only men because they want to boss you around

If you didn't fear because you are a delicate and emotionally fragile being, you wouldn't overlook the Scriptures that I'm sure you already know are out there regarding the role of a Christian man and the role of women in the church. I believe you fear the thought of being invovled in relationship that is abusive whether that be physical or emotional. You cringe at the power and authority that God gave to man. God gave dominion to the man, not to the woman. The serpent that deceived the woman in the garden of Eden knew that man would not give up that dominion power to him, so he decided in his extremely intelligent craftiness to use the woman's fragile (delicate) nature against her to get to the man. But as I was saying about that fear. God did not give you a spirit of fear and timidity, he gave you love power and a sound mind. Women tend to worry more than men do. I believe you worry a lot, especially over the issue of men being your master. No man will be your master if you do not get married. And by master I mean leader. The master that you do have now is the man Jesus Christ who sent people like the apostle Paul to write the Spirit-inspired wisdom to people like you and me. I am not trying to degrade you or strip you of your confidence as a woman, I'm trying to tell you that you don't have to be afraid anymore. No man is going to hurt you. You are radically loved by God. And he has give you his word as a covering for you, to protect you from the deception of the devil. The devil likes to cause God's people to focus on things that go beyond what is written in the word. There's a demon that hides in the church and it is called "Wrong Focus". My words are nothing but caring and they are meant for your best interest at heart.

 

[Trinity33]

That's not at all what I see it as. Man and woman were made differently, period. It's not to say that man wants to boss people around. I'm not interested in a woman I have to tell what to do all the time, but a person should know their strengths and weaknesses (sometimes that matters) there is a reason a woman is such a wonderful mother, WOC points out some of the traits only a mother really masters. A man is the protector, and he is the leader, especially when it really matters. I'm not talking about what t.v we need to buy or what color we are painting the walls, I'm not even talking about what we are eating for dinner, but if we are deciding what route we need to take given a certain situation (especially if its a serious one) then it's important to have one captain on the ship. Think about that. Why is there only one captain? is his opinion the only one that matters? not at all!! but if there is an ice berg ahead and one person yells "TURN PORT!" and another person says "TURN STARBOARD!" the boat doesn't turn and they sink. As a man it is important to me that I can protect what I love. I'm sorry that is deeply etched into who I am. Honestly it warms a mans heart when he has something vulnerable and beautiful to protect, here I'm not just talking about a woman, I'm talking children too. I'm talking about a man's heart. The bible says that Jesus is the head of the man as man is the head of his wife. Is that an insult to me? not at all! it's the way God made it to be...

I don't see anything in her post that makes me feel that she is belittling women or saying women should be slaves. She is accurately pointing out how God created man and woman to benefit from and appreciate each other.

Mr. Smart man! You are right I am sorry nothing wrong with being taken care of. Just some guys (should have said that first) see it differently then you and these gentlemen on here do. Lol makes us women b like hey! Behave ;-)

 

[jsr1221]

Without men, women would literally be helpless. Men are made by God to be stronger. Of the sexes, one has to be able to put food on the table(I'm not talking about holding down a job, I'm talking about hunting), do what it takes to make shelter. Trinity, how many woman do you know that can chop down trees? Run a lumber mill? Overhaul an automobile engine? This whole idea that women are, or can be, equal to men is another tool of satan. That isn't the way God designed us and that isn't the way it is, or ever will be. This argument is old hat.

I've never hunted. Nor have I gone out into the wilderness and chopped down that wood. Does that make me not a man?

 

[Deadtosin]

Mr. Smart man! You are right I am sorry nothing wrong with being taken care of. Just some guys (should have said that first) see it differently then you and these gentlemen on here do. Lol makes us women b like hey! Behave ;-)

There are those who take advantage of anything, but there are definitely men on here who would, have, will and do love women the way they are supposed to be loved. Maybe not all, but many.

 

[Deadtosin]

I've never hunted. Nor have I gone out into the wilderness and chopped down that wood. Does that make me not a man?

lol and I've never overhauled an engine, I think you missed his point.

 

[womanofchrist28]

I think people do not understand I did not even know that not all wives are submissive to their husband until I was about 16 growing up my dad was in charge of the house everyone knew it and it did not need to be said and I was always taught that femininity is a beautiful amazing gift from God and the man is the leader

 

[Deadtosin]

I think people do not understand I did not even know that not all wives are submissive to their husband until I was about 16 growing up my dad was in charge of the house everyone knew it and it did not need to be said and I was always taught that femininity is a beautiful amazing gift from God and the man is the leader

I will pray that God will guide you (if He hasn't already) to a man who won't take advantage of that. It's a beautiful thing, just make sure that the man you choose truly loves Jesus with all of his heart.

 

[Revelator7]

Christenfeminist, womanofchrist28 isn't wrong. She is the prime example of a woman of Christ. God has given her wisdom. She doesn't fear men, she fears God. She doesn't focus on thoughts that cause her to get so wrapped up in insecurity or jealousy/envy over the issue of men. She focuses her energy on thoughts that bring her grace and favor from God. James wrote, "Where there is selfish ambition and envy there is confusion and every evil thing." From her writting it is plainly seen that she doesn't suffer from confusion. That is because she's not envying the status of the Christian man, nor is she being self-centered because she is not opinionated but she is Bible-centered. The stuff she writes from her heart is stuff that could teach younger women in the faith. A contentious woman who stirs up strife is not a strong woman, but a strongly opinionated one. Proverbs talks about the contentious woman who fights about things and how it is better for a man to sit on the corner of a rooftop than to dwell in the house with her. Peter talks about the woman of a gentle and quiet spirit is very precious in the sight of God. From your threads Christianfeminist all you are doing is stirring up strife and bring arguments over issues that are irrelevant as far as Scripture is concerned. It's like you have no inner peace but fears. womanofchrist's anointing drips in this place with the peace of Christ.

 

[Tinkerbell725]

Men and women are wired differently. God has a purpose for this. So that they will complement each other, or to avoid power struggles maybe. The bible says a wife or a woman should submit to her husband and a husband should be responsible and accountable for his wife.