Few believe the Bible
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its a book full of spiritual wisdom from God. examples " you must crucify the flesh" " if your right eye causes you to sin, pluck it out" " i beat my body into submission " " i run the race marked out for me" ..... almost the entire new testament rewuires Gods spirit for understanding, " The words i speak to you are spirit and Life" " we speak to you spiritual truths, in spiritual words" ..... if you think of it, we havent seen the things we believe, and much of what is taught us are things we cant see. Heaven, spirit, hell, resurrection.....
Surely it is Gods litteral word, But we all know that God is spirit. I like what u said there even the commentary and seemigly insignificant narrations are relevant to our learning for our good.
there have been sects over the years who literally beat themselves, and put nails through thier hands and feet attempting to "crucify the flesh" its definately something that we need to go to the Lord in prayer for understanding or it will lead our human minds astray
Surely it is Gods litteral word, But we all know that God is spirit. I like what u said there even the commentary and seemigly insignificant narrations are relevant to our learning for our good.
there have been sects over the years who literally beat themselves, and put nails through thier hands and feet attempting to "crucify the flesh" its definately something that we need to go to the Lord in prayer for understanding or it will lead our human minds astray
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The profit Isiah IN CONTEXT was speaking about the nation of Israel as a whole and their religious works, he was not speaking to righteous individuals (bible 101 context always) The righteous and the wicked are separated on almost every page of the bible..why number yourself among the wicked?
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Well I went an read the story. We have to take into consideration that the poll was done over the phone. Phone polls are not as accurate as they have been in the past. Gallup the company that conducted the research is also not known for bias free polls,also Gallup revealed last year leading up to the election that they would have a hard time calling the race due to the lack of accurate data phone polling produced . Something else look at the questions . Two of the three questions divide Bible believing folks in to two groups and nonbelievers are in one group. This skews the poll . A closer look dose show somthing good though. 71% believe the Bible is of God . Something that is overlooked by the article on the most part.
Well that's my take on it
Blessings
Bill
Well that's my take on it
Blessings
Bill
yes and then when people learn things they omit them because they have been taught to believe only what supports the latest " best selling revolution" of how to "really" understand. so many different bible colleges are shading what is true in order to make Money and gain popularity. Not doing the things we learn, also stifles our progress as much as believing wrong
Well, Jesus did say the way was narrow and few would find it...
Matthew 7:13,14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Religious people use this all the time to excuse themselves from believing things they don't like... it's called the "Cherry Pickers Syndrome"
Thank you for the reminder... those of us in the states should be very thankful.
But, the false grace, seeker sensitive, emerging church TV preachers are leading many to follow another jesus and a different gospel... so we'll catch up with Finland eventually.
Matthew 7:13,14
Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
Religious people use this all the time to excuse themselves from believing things they don't like... it's called the "Cherry Pickers Syndrome"
Thank you for the reminder... those of us in the states should be very thankful.
But, the false grace, seeker sensitive, emerging church TV preachers are leading many to follow another jesus and a different gospel... so we'll catch up with Finland eventually.
Willybob When the prophet speaks, it can be applied to anybody..Unless of course its speaking specifically to a single person. For example; God tells my wife not to do something she is about to do...because it would be bad for her health, spiritual growth or the like, I apply that to me as well...because, why would it be bad for her and good for me to do that thing? The same with most prophesies in the Book.
You're right of courst on the context. But you can still apply it
You're right of courst on the context. But you can still apply it
The main problem is in the way western people think. The Bible is not a product of western thinking. Jewish interpreters of the Bible look for the underlying spiritual meaning of Scripture not just the literal text. Here is an example of what is known as Midrash:
When Israel was a Child I loved him
and out of Egypt I have called my Son
The more I called them the more they went
from me and kept sacrificing to the Baals
and burning incense to idols
Hosea 11: 1
And he rose and took the Child and his Mother
by night and departed to Egypt and remained there
until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what
the Lord had spoken by the Prophet. Out of Egypt
I have called my Son.
Matthew 2:14
The Holy Spirit revealed to Matthew the deeper meaning to these words. From reading Hosea alone one would naturally think its about the people of Israel. It is but the deeper meaning is that Jesus is the embodiment of Israel. There are many examples of where the plain literal meaning of a text leads to a greater spiritual meaning.
The saying that the New within the Old concealed, the Old within the New revealed has a lot of truth in it.
When Israel was a Child I loved him
and out of Egypt I have called my Son
The more I called them the more they went
from me and kept sacrificing to the Baals
and burning incense to idols
Hosea 11: 1
And he rose and took the Child and his Mother
by night and departed to Egypt and remained there
until the death of Herod. This was to fulfill what
the Lord had spoken by the Prophet. Out of Egypt
I have called my Son.
Matthew 2:14
The Holy Spirit revealed to Matthew the deeper meaning to these words. From reading Hosea alone one would naturally think its about the people of Israel. It is but the deeper meaning is that Jesus is the embodiment of Israel. There are many examples of where the plain literal meaning of a text leads to a greater spiritual meaning.
The saying that the New within the Old concealed, the Old within the New revealed has a lot of truth in it.
I admit that I do not fully understand the scriptures as the depths of the scriptures is like a vast ocean and yes i will agree that many false doctrines have been derived from a lack of understanding of the word, but personally while I cannot exactly boast of my understanding of the bible from what I have seen in the church I don't think very many people should be bible scholars.
When reading the bible lots of people claim to read it with the holy spirit and their understanding is apparently also from the holy spirit and yet you have people getting bizarre things from scripture, for instance a prayer request was made by a person in the prayer request section recently, from Deuteronomy 28 she figured the reason for her suffering in life was a generational curse. Another person I knew constantly preached about hell and would be hounding people about their sins and how their going to hell and the torture that awaits them and this was to believers as well as non believers.
He got this from reading the ot he was still pretty new as a believer and saw God as an angry wrathful all powerful being to be trembling about he dared not even say his name for fear of being struck down.
When reading the bible lots of people claim to read it with the holy spirit and their understanding is apparently also from the holy spirit and yet you have people getting bizarre things from scripture, for instance a prayer request was made by a person in the prayer request section recently, from Deuteronomy 28 she figured the reason for her suffering in life was a generational curse. Another person I knew constantly preached about hell and would be hounding people about their sins and how their going to hell and the torture that awaits them and this was to believers as well as non believers.
He got this from reading the ot he was still pretty new as a believer and saw God as an angry wrathful all powerful being to be trembling about he dared not even say his name for fear of being struck down.
really, it's the whole world - but, the usa is becoming a major bully, day by day...
of dis-respecting Jesus, and of course because of 'throwing Jesus Christ and His Holy Sacrifice in the ditch'...
(man-marrying man-woman-marrying woman=sacrificing children) HELLO!!!
we see great devastation approaching at an alarming rate!
Real Christians, become prepared and put-on the whole armour of your Saviour!
of dis-respecting Jesus, and of course because of 'throwing Jesus Christ and His Holy Sacrifice in the ditch'...
(man-marrying man-woman-marrying woman=sacrificing children) HELLO!!!
we see great devastation approaching at an alarming rate!
Real Christians, become prepared and put-on the whole armour of your Saviour!
I agree Willie.
We must understand the bible was not written "to" us but "for" us. There is a vast difference - get this wrong and we create our own religion of Christianity.
We can't truly figure out what a passage is saying for us to learn from what the Spirit is saying until we understand the original, organic "intent" for which it was written in the first place.
If not - then we end up missing up the Old Covenant with the New Covenant and both lose their value and purpose.
All scripture must be filtered through the revelation of the finished work of Christ and through all that He has already done on the cross and resurrection. And the truth that we too have been crucified with Him - we too have died on the cross. We too have been raised together with Him to newness of life and we are alive with Him to God now.
We are not to die to ourselves - we are to live unto our true selves now - who we truly are in Christ. Oneness with Christ now and alive unto God.
We must understand the bible was not written "to" us but "for" us. There is a vast difference - get this wrong and we create our own religion of Christianity.
We can't truly figure out what a passage is saying for us to learn from what the Spirit is saying until we understand the original, organic "intent" for which it was written in the first place.
If not - then we end up missing up the Old Covenant with the New Covenant and both lose their value and purpose.
All scripture must be filtered through the revelation of the finished work of Christ and through all that He has already done on the cross and resurrection. And the truth that we too have been crucified with Him - we too have died on the cross. We too have been raised together with Him to newness of life and we are alive with Him to God now.
We are not to die to ourselves - we are to live unto our true selves now - who we truly are in Christ. Oneness with Christ now and alive unto God.