First Four Seals of Revelation Identified
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johns first horse was religious deception,
Danials 4th beast was the roman empire,
the little horn that came out of rome is the cathloc church.
john lived during 4th beast and added onto Danials vision .
hitler was 6th resuraction of this unholy roman empire.
check history that Germany, with east and west, is rome now with church
Christians have to first be raptured and the Temple needs to be rebuilt before you have to worry about the receiving of the Mark of the Beast. For Paul was telling the Thessalonians about not to worry about if the Day of the Lord (KJV - Day of Christ) had come yet (Which lines up with the sixth seal because both the Day of the Lord and the 6th Seal have blood moons and black skies). For the man of sin (Anti-Christ) first needs to be in the temple showing himself that he is God.
1. 1st Seal = Anti-Christ's arrival whereby he will be like a Savior to the world. (Crown given to him and will set forth to conquer).
2. 2nd Seal = War (Peace is taken from the Earth) (Peace currently exists now - We are not in WW3 yet).
3. 3rd Seal = Famine and poverty (World is currently not in a state of famine). (This is the result of the fall of the Vatican).
4. 4th Seal = 4th part of the world is hit with death (This because of the enforcement of the Mark).
5. 5th Seal = Saints cry out for revenge from being killed by the Anti-Christ.
6. 6th Seal = Day of the Lord (God responds to the saints by executing justice with the Great Tribulation).
1. 1st Seal = Anti-Christ's arrival whereby he will be like a Savior to the world. (Crown given to him and will set forth to conquer).
2. 2nd Seal = War (Peace is taken from the Earth) (Peace currently exists now - We are not in WW3 yet).
3. 3rd Seal = Famine and poverty (World is currently not in a state of famine). (This is the result of the fall of the Vatican).
4. 4th Seal = 4th part of the world is hit with death (This because of the enforcement of the Mark).
5. 5th Seal = Saints cry out for revenge from being killed by the Anti-Christ.
6. 6th Seal = Day of the Lord (God responds to the saints by executing justice with the Great Tribulation).
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The prophecy has to match all the indicators. The previous two world wars did not involve a man that would be categorized as a Savior type who was solving all the world's problems and who was obtaining the kingdoms by flattery (And who sought to change the times and the laws). Didn't really see that happen yet. Remember. This man rides a white horse. He will appear to be a good guy. For if it were possible, he could deceive the very elect.
Was it a 4th of the Earth?
See, the Black Death (1347-1352) was only one third of Europe's population. It wasn't on a global level. One fourth of the Earth was not wiped out with death during that time period.
Was it a 4th of the Earth?
See, the Black Death (1347-1352) was only one third of Europe's population. It wasn't on a global level. One fourth of the Earth was not wiped out with death during that time period.
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Something interesting I just discovered...
There was a goddess worshiped that has been passed down through all empires of the earth... ridden on their backs so to speak. She is still worshiped today. Below are her names within 7 empires:
Egypt: Isis
Assyria, Babylon, and Medo-Persia: Ishtar
Greece: Astarte & Aphrodite
Rome: Isis (again)
Where is ISIS today?:
[SUP]So then, is Isis the woman that has ridden upon the empires (beasts)?[/SUP][SUP]
All of the above quotes are from wikipedia.[/SUP]
There was a goddess worshiped that has been passed down through all empires of the earth... ridden on their backs so to speak. She is still worshiped today. Below are her names within 7 empires:
Egypt: Isis
Assyria, Babylon, and Medo-Persia: Ishtar
Greece: Astarte & Aphrodite
Rome: Isis (again)
Where is ISIS today?:
[SUP]So then, is Isis the woman that has ridden upon the empires (beasts)?[/SUP][SUP]
All of the above quotes are from wikipedia.[/SUP]
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I beg all who love the Lord, Jesus Christ, to please take extra care when discussing the Book, Revelation.
All I may add to this discussion is this, when prophecy unfolds those who believe will understand without laborious works of interpretation. All will be made quite clear by our Father, because He loves us, and He will not leave us alone.
All I may add to this discussion is this, when prophecy unfolds those who believe will understand without laborious works of interpretation. All will be made quite clear by our Father, because He loves us, and He will not leave us alone.
When?
It has been from the beginning to the end. So where is this common understanding among the people? Scripture says to study to show yourself approved; not to remain in ignorance and God will just give to those who do not seek.
We all have our gifts and therefore our part. If one cuts off any part of the body, that one causes that part of the body to cease functioning for them.
It has been from the beginning to the end. So where is this common understanding among the people? Scripture says to study to show yourself approved; not to remain in ignorance and God will just give to those who do not seek.
We all have our gifts and therefore our part. If one cuts off any part of the body, that one causes that part of the body to cease functioning for them.
You've jumped to a lot of conclusions without any Biblical support my friend.
First, the Rapture/Return of the Lord comes AFTER the tribulation, not before. There is no Rapture timing or return of the Lord timing found pre-Trib in the Bible.
Second, you assume that all the Seals are contained within some arbitrary Tribulation period. There is no passage that tells us the Tribulation lasts 7 years or that the Seals are all contained within this time frame.
Third, you assume that the 4th Seal equates to a fourth of the earth being killed. Read the text, it does not say a fourth of the earth is killed. It says, "And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill".... by various means. Muslims have control over 24% of the earth right now and they are killing by all the listed means. They are likely just getting started. While I can't prove it, I firmly believe we are in the 4th seal now.
Fourth, the "famine" as you call it, of the third seal is not clearly famine. Inflation could explain the poverty as could currency devaluation as could wage reduction alone or in conjunction. Scarcity is a possibility but clearly there are three other very strong possibilities. I believe the passage is discussing the immense wealth of a few at the expense of the poor.
"A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."
The poor have to work all day for food while the rich continue their excesses and lavishness. The above agrees with the description given to the WOMAN.
Rev 18:
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously , so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing , 16 And saying , Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
The fourth seal along with the passage above totally support my premise of this thread.
Fifthly, nothing says the the wrath of the Lamb mentioned in the 6th seal is the Great Tribulation. The word, "Tribulation" is used 22 times in the Bible. 21 of these occasions the word is used to describe persecution of God's People at the hands of the wicked. Thus, the Great Tribulation is the wicked persecuting and killing God's People en mass throughout the world. That's why the Martyrs want revenge and that's where the Great Multitude in Heaven comes from in Rev 7.
First, the Rapture/Return of the Lord comes AFTER the tribulation, not before. There is no Rapture timing or return of the Lord timing found pre-Trib in the Bible.
Second, you assume that all the Seals are contained within some arbitrary Tribulation period. There is no passage that tells us the Tribulation lasts 7 years or that the Seals are all contained within this time frame.
Third, you assume that the 4th Seal equates to a fourth of the earth being killed. Read the text, it does not say a fourth of the earth is killed. It says, "And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill".... by various means. Muslims have control over 24% of the earth right now and they are killing by all the listed means. They are likely just getting started. While I can't prove it, I firmly believe we are in the 4th seal now.
Fourth, the "famine" as you call it, of the third seal is not clearly famine. Inflation could explain the poverty as could currency devaluation as could wage reduction alone or in conjunction. Scarcity is a possibility but clearly there are three other very strong possibilities. I believe the passage is discussing the immense wealth of a few at the expense of the poor.
"A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."
The poor have to work all day for food while the rich continue their excesses and lavishness. The above agrees with the description given to the WOMAN.
Rev 18:
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously , so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of pearls, and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood, and all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood, and of brass, and iron, and marble, 13 And cinnamon, and odours, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, and souls of men. 14 And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee, and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee, and thou shalt find them no more at all. 15 The merchants of these things, which were made rich by her, shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment, weeping and wailing , 16 And saying , Alas, alas, that great city, that was clothed in fine linen, and purple, and scarlet, and decked with gold, and precious stones, and pearls!
The fourth seal along with the passage above totally support my premise of this thread.
Fifthly, nothing says the the wrath of the Lamb mentioned in the 6th seal is the Great Tribulation. The word, "Tribulation" is used 22 times in the Bible. 21 of these occasions the word is used to describe persecution of God's People at the hands of the wicked. Thus, the Great Tribulation is the wicked persecuting and killing God's People en mass throughout the world. That's why the Martyrs want revenge and that's where the Great Multitude in Heaven comes from in Rev 7.
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Well stated. Revelation is all about Good vs. Evil, God vs. Satan and how this has played out and will play out on earth and in the heavens. Worshiping any idol or god, that is not GOD, our Father is the biggest issue. It's a very ancient thing this idol worship and these Beast kingdoms.
Tolerance of evil is not a virtue.
Tolerance of evil is not a virtue.
My response is in no way to be understood I am against anything posed here. All who love the Lord study and learn all that is possible out of love for Him. We all have ideas from reading, and we think on them and wait for the Lord. All who have had the privilege of having some time behind them since coming to the Lord, Jesus Christ, have had early in faith notions, and they have seen how they unfold and are indeed from understanding. I do not discount anyone knowing far more than I or others, but I do beg all who love Jesus Christ to be cautious or interpreting for all unless led by the Hoy Spirit with the certainty of Salvation in their sharing. God's ways are not man's ways, thus we wait on Him, and the waiting is beautiful because of the perfection that will be given us all on His Day.......God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.
Yup... the 6th day. The day God completed man. 
Glad to see you understand what Peter was saying there. I would have guessed that you did.
Glad to see you understand what Peter was saying there. I would have guessed that you did.
Judgment of Babylon the Great, Mother of Harlots, AKA Mecca, the center of Abominable worship of Satan's BEAST religion, is coming. Now that we have understanding of the BEAST (Northern Islamic Empire) and the WOMAN who rides it (MECCA and by extension the worship of Islam), we can clearly see that her judgment will be harsh and it will be dished out in double strength as she has done/will do.
Rev 18:6 Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.
We all recognize that the Bowls are God's wrath poured out on this woman (ISLAM). Her punishment is twice. This is God's revenge. We see many companion passages where God's revenge/wrath is poured out in close proximity (I'd suggest just prior) to the Lord's return. Here is my favorite because it confirms timing and disproves any notion of a pre-Trib Rapture.
6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Do we see a doubling of punishment in the Bowls over what the WOMAN has done in the Trumpets? Some are clearer to see than others.
Trumpet 2:
8 Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.
Bowl 2:
3 Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.
We see in Trump 2 that 1/3 of the "sea" became blood or spiritually dead. This means 2/3 of the "sea" are left. So when Bowl 2 is poured out the rest of the "sea" becomes blood or spiritually dead. "Like" a great mountain - the word, "Like" is a sign post telling us this is a spiritual passage and not to be taken literally. Therefore it is not an asteroid as many think. So what is this "sea" and what is this "great mountain burning with fire?"
Rev 13:1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
The BEAST rises up from the "sea". The Sea is the Muslim people.
A MOUNTAIN is a kingdom, a spiritual kingdom (good or bad) to be more precise. We have the black Kaaba Stone that is touched. This stone was a meteor which burned as it passed through the atmosphere. Those that worship it, worship Satan and they too will be burned and punished with fire from the presence of the Lord. So, do we have a second witness or passage to the meaning of the 2nd trumpet?
Heb 12:
18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest,
19 and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore.
20 (For they could not endure what was commanded: "And if so much as a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned or shot with an arrow."
21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I am exceedingly afraid and trembling.")
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,
Rev 18:6 Render to her just as she rendered to you, and repay her double according to her works; in the cup which she has mixed, mix double for her.
We all recognize that the Bowls are God's wrath poured out on this woman (ISLAM). Her punishment is twice. This is God's revenge. We see many companion passages where God's revenge/wrath is poured out in close proximity (I'd suggest just prior) to the Lord's return. Here is my favorite because it confirms timing and disproves any notion of a pre-Trib Rapture.
6 since it is a righteous thing with God to repay with tribulation those who trouble you, 7 and to give you who are troubled rest with us when the Lord Jesus is revealed from heaven with His mighty angels, 8 in flaming fire taking vengeance on those who do not know God, and on those who do not obey the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Do we see a doubling of punishment in the Bowls over what the WOMAN has done in the Trumpets? Some are clearer to see than others.
Trumpet 2:
8 Then the second angel sounded: And something like a great mountain burning with fire was thrown into the sea, and a third of the sea became blood.
Bowl 2:
3 Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became blood as of a dead man; and every living creature in the sea died.
We see in Trump 2 that 1/3 of the "sea" became blood or spiritually dead. This means 2/3 of the "sea" are left. So when Bowl 2 is poured out the rest of the "sea" becomes blood or spiritually dead. "Like" a great mountain - the word, "Like" is a sign post telling us this is a spiritual passage and not to be taken literally. Therefore it is not an asteroid as many think. So what is this "sea" and what is this "great mountain burning with fire?"
Rev 13:1 Then I stood on the sand of the sea. And I saw a beast rising up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and on his horns ten crowns, and on his heads a blasphemous name.
The BEAST rises up from the "sea". The Sea is the Muslim people.
A MOUNTAIN is a kingdom, a spiritual kingdom (good or bad) to be more precise. We have the black Kaaba Stone that is touched. This stone was a meteor which burned as it passed through the atmosphere. Those that worship it, worship Satan and they too will be burned and punished with fire from the presence of the Lord. So, do we have a second witness or passage to the meaning of the 2nd trumpet?
Heb 12:
18 For you have not come to the mountain that may be touched and that burned with fire, and to blackness and darkness and tempest,
19 and the sound of a trumpet and the voice of words, so that those who heard it begged that the word should not be spoken to them anymore.
20 (For they could not endure what was commanded: "And if so much as a beast touches the mountain, it shall be stoned or shot with an arrow."
21 And so terrifying was the sight that Moses said, "I am exceedingly afraid and trembling.")
22 But you have come to Mount Zion and to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem, to an innumerable company of angels,
23 to the general assembly and church of the firstborn who are registered in heaven, to God the Judge of all, to the spirits of just men made perfect,