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Wondering if 1 Tim 4 ties in with:
Matthew 17:21
"But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."
Implying the demon is trying to control diet which affects the temple.
Fasting and prayer could provide a clean slate to start over with.
I can't say but this is interesting Stilly as it has been something I have been meditating upon for a few weeks now thinking there must be other reasons behind fasting other than the discipline of resisting worldly things for God or providing a rest for digestion.
Jesus being the ultimate physician indicated:
These Kind...having implications there are also different types of demonic spirits influencing or targeting different areas of the body besides the mind.
The body needs food:
The body usually craves what it needs.
What if the demonic spirits influence diet to alter the natural cravings which lead to depriving the body of what it needs then leading to cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's etc.
Matthew 17:21
"But this kind does not go out except by prayer and fasting."
Implying the demon is trying to control diet which affects the temple.
Fasting and prayer could provide a clean slate to start over with.
I can't say but this is interesting Stilly as it has been something I have been meditating upon for a few weeks now thinking there must be other reasons behind fasting other than the discipline of resisting worldly things for God or providing a rest for digestion.
Jesus being the ultimate physician indicated:
These Kind...having implications there are also different types of demonic spirits influencing or targeting different areas of the body besides the mind.
The body needs food:
The body usually craves what it needs.
What if the demonic spirits influence diet to alter the natural cravings which lead to depriving the body of what it needs then leading to cancer, diabetes, Alzheimer's etc.
K
Fasting is a good way to have a clear mind without anything interfering like the food temptations.
It makes you stronger to resist the temptations of the world.
The other thing that fasting does is that it is a health benefit. It gives your body a time to release all the impurities that you have consumed that effect your body, instead of just more and more impurities piled upon them that can not get full expelled so they absorb in your body.
It makes you stronger to resist the temptations of the world.
The other thing that fasting does is that it is a health benefit. It gives your body a time to release all the impurities that you have consumed that effect your body, instead of just more and more impurities piled upon them that can not get full expelled so they absorb in your body.
4 Now the Spirit expressly says that in later times some will depart from the faith by devoting themselves to deceitful spirits and teachings of demons,2 through the insincerity of liars whose consciences are seared,3 who forbid marriage and require abstinence from foods that God created to be received with thanksgiving by those who believe and know the truth.4 For everything created by God is good, and nothing is to be rejected if it is received with thanksgiving,5 for it is made holy by the word of God and prayer.
This is what thanksgiving is all about, it is when a person or a prophet entered into someone home or life and was able to convinced them to convert, in return the person that has converted has offered them to come and sit with them and eat their meal as for an appreciation of thank for bringing them into the light. But if this family is poor, and only thing that they has on their menu was road-killed stew and which the Laws forbid to eat an animal that has been killed over a certain period of time and or even to touch it carcasses, to avoid alienated them as unclean, God will cleanse the meal so that it will be good to eat. But Peter have had a problem with it, because Paul had to comfort him about rejecting the meals that the Gentiles had offered to them, because if you rejected a thanksgiving meal, show that a person believe that God isn't able to do the things that they claimed that He could do; and especially if God can't cleanse a meal, then how could He cleanse a person from sin.
Matthew 9:28 When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?” “Yes, Lord,” they replied.
Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
Psalm 79:6 Pour out your wrath on the nations that do not acknowledge you, on the kingdoms that do not call on your name;
Isaiah 19:21 So the Lord will make himself known to the Egyptians, and in that day they will acknowledge the Lord. They will worship with sacrifices and grain offerings; they will make vows to the Lord and keep them.
Jonah 1:16 At this the men greatly feared the Lord, and they offered a sacrifice to the Lord and made vows to him.
This is what thanksgiving is all about, it is when a person or a prophet entered into someone home or life and was able to convinced them to convert, in return the person that has converted has offered them to come and sit with them and eat their meal as for an appreciation of thank for bringing them into the light. But if this family is poor, and only thing that they has on their menu was road-killed stew and which the Laws forbid to eat an animal that has been killed over a certain period of time and or even to touch it carcasses, to avoid alienated them as unclean, God will cleanse the meal so that it will be good to eat. But Peter have had a problem with it, because Paul had to comfort him about rejecting the meals that the Gentiles had offered to them, because if you rejected a thanksgiving meal, show that a person believe that God isn't able to do the things that they claimed that He could do; and especially if God can't cleanse a meal, then how could He cleanse a person from sin.
Matthew 9:28 When he had gone indoors, the blind men came to him, and he asked them, “Do you believe that I am able to do this?” “Yes, Lord,” they replied.
Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.
Psalm 79:6 Pour out your wrath on the nations that do not acknowledge you, on the kingdoms that do not call on your name;
Isaiah 19:21 So the Lord will make himself known to the Egyptians, and in that day they will acknowledge the Lord. They will worship with sacrifices and grain offerings; they will make vows to the Lord and keep them.
Jonah 1:16 At this the men greatly feared the Lord, and they offered a sacrifice to the Lord and made vows to him.
I decided to use the directions God gave the Hebrews about not eating food from animals who are scavengers in my diet. I don't buy bacon or pork, but I don't let people know I prefer not to eat it if I think it would make them uncomfortable. I don't believe it was demons that inspired me to do this. I do it as a symbol to myself to keep my mind clean---dirty books, dirty movies, dirty gossip about others and etc. I have an inner conviction that this is fine for me to do.
At the time of the epistles, there were men who preached that God accepted and rejected people based on the food they ate. Scripture pulls no punches when it announces that is a very wrong thing to do. I think it is equally as wrong to say that God will not accept you based on the food you choose not to eat.
At the time of the epistles, there were men who preached that God accepted and rejected people based on the food they ate. Scripture pulls no punches when it announces that is a very wrong thing to do. I think it is equally as wrong to say that God will not accept you based on the food you choose not to eat.
K
He did not say that as a personal choice.
If you decide not to eat certain things out of personal choice than that is fine.
The thing is if you teach others now that they can not eat certain foods then you teach falsely. That is the meaning behind what he posted.
If you teach people that they have to do things that are no longer, or never was a commandment by the Lord our God then it is demon inspired because it would be false teaching.
If you decide not to eat certain things out of personal choice than that is fine.
The thing is if you teach others now that they can not eat certain foods then you teach falsely. That is the meaning behind what he posted.
If you teach people that they have to do things that are no longer, or never was a commandment by the Lord our God then it is demon inspired because it would be false teaching.
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I think is not from demons, Let us thing for a moment if our brother diabetes and doctor say that he can't eat that are high in sugar such as cakes, chocolate, etc, are that saying from demons? I think not, doctors say so for the good of the patient.Bible says: for the kingdom of God is not eating and drinking, but righteousness and peace and joy in the Holy Spirit.(NKJV Rom 14:17).
I think this comes close to what Paul is warning about and endorsed by new agers but being embraced by the church.
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1 Timothy 4:3 KJV
(3) Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats(G1033), which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
G1033
βρῶμα
brōma
bro'-mah
From the base of G977; food (literally or figuratively), especially (ceremonial) articles allowed or forbiden by the Jewish law: - meat, victuals.
Did God allow all food to be eaten? In the OT there is a list of clean and unclean, even in the time of the flood.
Genesis 7:2 KJV
(2) Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
So is the text in Timothy saying we can eat anything as long as we pray about it? Certainly not and any christian teaching this is teaching what the Bible does not say. It is talking about clean food, good food that people will teach to abstain from. It is not against those who teach health principles.
(3) Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats(G1033), which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
G1033
βρῶμα
brōma
bro'-mah
From the base of G977; food (literally or figuratively), especially (ceremonial) articles allowed or forbiden by the Jewish law: - meat, victuals.
Did God allow all food to be eaten? In the OT there is a list of clean and unclean, even in the time of the flood.
Genesis 7:2 KJV
(2) Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female.
So is the text in Timothy saying we can eat anything as long as we pray about it? Certainly not and any christian teaching this is teaching what the Bible does not say. It is talking about clean food, good food that people will teach to abstain from. It is not against those who teach health principles.