Forgiveness

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How important is this?

If a brother or sister sins against you what do you do?

Do you forgive them or do you cut them off completely?:confused:

Your thoughts?
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
How important is this?

If a brother or sister sins against you what do you do?

Do you forgive them or do you cut them off completely?:confused:

Your thoughts?
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Well ya, if I'm in my car I will cut them off before they cut me off. lol

Initially I might get upset, but the Holy Spirit puts a check on my anger to the point I will forgive...only if they ask. lol

Actually, it should be to the point I forgive in my heart before they ask, so that WHEN they ask for forgiveness I will readily forgive them...whew.
 
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This might work....seeing that God in Christ has already forgiven us....we will do the same.

Ephesians 4:32 (NASB)
[SUP]32 [/SUP] Be kind to one another, tender-hearted, forgiving each other, just as God in Christ also has forgiven you.
 
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Well ya, if I'm in my car I will cut them off before they cut me off. lol

Initially I might get upset, but the Holy Spirit puts a check on my anger to the point I will forgive...only if they ask. lol

Actually, it should be to the point I forgive in my heart before they ask, so that WHEN they ask for forgiveness I will readily forgive them...whew.
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A little clarification...

I believe we are to forgive some one from our heart before they ask, but we are not to declare that forgiveness to them until they ask.
 
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Good point crossnote....you have it in your heart that they are already forgiven ..BEFORE they ask. ...and thus in your mind they are forgiven even if they asked for it...

.this is exactly what God in Christ did for us........done deal in God's mind....we need to believe and receive His forgiveness because of what Christ has done for us...we believe and receive His forgiveness...in a word....the gospel of grace!...beautiful!


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Well ya, if I'm in my car I will cut them off before they cut me off. lol

Initially I might get upset, but the Holy Spirit puts a check on my anger to the point I will forgive...only if they ask. lol

Actually, it should be to the point I forgive in my heart before they ask, so that WHEN they ask for forgiveness I will readily forgive them...whew.
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Crossnote:

What if that person doesn't want to hear from you ever again.:(

I would like to just apologize and end the relationship,
but I don't want to talk to someone who doesn't want to talk to me/cut me off.:(

In other words, how do you say your sorry if the person doesn't want to hear you ever again.:(
 
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you had just preached the gospel before you changed it here..lol..just teasn' ya.

Ahhh..so keep them in the dark until they ask for the forgiveness...keep them thinking you are holding something against them until they acknowledge they were wrong...,..is that really forgiveness though?

just askin'


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A little clarification...

I believe we are to forgive some one from our heart before they ask, but we are not to declare that forgiveness to them until they ask.
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I just forgive them, I don't think it always has to be said to their faces and I don't think they need to ask for it. Though it's okay to forgive someone or to ask forgiveness or have it asked of you.

Whenever such a situation comes up, these verses always enter my head:

Matthew 18:21-21

[SUP]21 [/SUP]Then came Peter to him, and said, Lord, how oft shall my brother sin against me, and I forgive him? till seven times?
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Jesus saith unto him, I say not unto thee, Until seven times: but, Until seventy times seven.
 
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Aren't you supposed to confront someone who offended you...not just keep it to yourself?

...also you as the person who is offended, shouldn't you leave the door open for the other person to get a chance to at least say sorry?:(

After the person apologizes do you restore the relationship or cut it off?---I guess this was the original question I was asking.

I can respect someone wanting to end a relationship/but shouldn't you leave the door open so the other person can at least apologize?:(
 
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Forgive is ur choice.. me too like u can't forgive someone ..and i hate it but realize everyone can make mistakes actually me ..and try to forgive.. me to like u want cut off ect but I must try to pray for... trust me u can do it..fighting!!:)
 
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Thanks for everyone's responses...

however I'm not the one cutting off...

I am the one who wants to say sorry as my last word to that person:( but I can't because they cut me off :(

I guess not all people can forgive...at least right away....

If I cut off all the people that hurt me I would have no friends so I always forgive because I'm human and so is everyone else...:(

I just want to have the last word---I'm sorry:(
 
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I think it says in the New Testament that if you do not forgive, you will not be forgiven and therefore will lose your salvation if you die in that state of unforgiveness.
 
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Grace777x70 said:
Good point crossnote....you have it in your heart that they are already forgiven ..BEFORE they ask. ...and thus in your mind they are forgiven even if they asked for it...

.this is exactly what God in Christ did for us........done deal in God's mind....we need to believe and receive His forgiveness because of what Christ has done for us...we believe and receive His forgiveness...in a word....the gospel of grace!...beautiful!
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at least I hope to have that 'already forgiveness' in my heart before they ask for forgiveness. :)
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Crossnote:

What if that person doesn't want to hear from you ever again.:(

I would like to just apologize and end the relationship,
but I don't want to talk to someone who doesn't want to talk to me/cut me off.:(

In other words, how do you say your sorry if the person doesn't want to hear you ever again.:(
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Why would I say I'm sorry if they are the offenders?
 
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you had just preached the gospel before you changed it here..lol..just teasn' ya.

Ahhh..so keep them in the dark until they ask for the forgiveness...keep them thinking you are holding something against them until they acknowledge they were wrong...,..is that really forgiveness though?

just askin'
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That's not the case. What if they still want to do you harm, do you still tell them "I forgive you"?
If so, forgiveness becomes meaningless.
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Thanks for everyone's responses...

however I'm not the one cutting off...

I am the one who wants to say sorry as my last word to that person:( but I can't because they cut me off :(

I guess not all people can forgive...at least right away....

If I cut off all the people that hurt me I would have no friends so I always forgive because I'm human and so is everyone else...:(

I just want to have the last word---I'm sorry:(
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Great thoughts here :)
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Aren't you supposed to confront someone who offended you...not just keep it to yourself?

...also you as the person who is offended, shouldn't you leave the door open for the other person to get a chance to at least say sorry?:(

After the person apologizes do you restore the relationship or cut it off?---I guess this was the original question I was asking.

I can respect someone wanting to end a relationship/but shouldn't you leave the door open so the other person can at least apologize?:(
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Definitely, if the other person apologizes, we should take steps to restore trust.
 
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MYSAVIORJESUSCHRIST said:
Thanks for everyone's responses...

however I'm not the one cutting off...

I am the one who wants to say sorry as my last word to that person:( but I can't because they cut me off :(

I guess not all people can forgive...at least right away....

If I cut off all the people that hurt me I would have no friends so I always forgive because I'm human and so is everyone else...:(

I just want to have the last word---I'm sorry:(
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Well, unfortunately, you can't force your will on them, or even God's will. If they are unwilling to let you say at least one more thing, then you'll just have to let it go. Ask God to start a work in their heart towards forgiveness. If or when you ever run into them, just treat them with love. Even if it's just through passing, just smile and say a sweet "hello". If they start a conversation with you, then you can ask for forgiveness. Otherwise, know that you've forgiven, and that you're praying for them, and that's about all you can do for now. I know it's very cliche to say, but it's so true, "Just let go and let God". :)

If anyone will not welcome you or listen to your words, leave that home or town and shake the dust off your feet.
Matt 10:14
 
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I think it says in the New Testament that if you do not forgive, you will not be forgiven and therefore will lose your salvation if you die in that state of unforgiveness.
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It never says you will lose your salvation.
God may hold back forgiving you until you come to your senses and see how much you were forgiven and therefore should in turn forgive.
 
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If someone doesn't want to be forgiven, doesn't ask to be forgiven, and doesn't care if you forgive them, then your not obligated to forgive them. Gods forgiveness is not automatic, he forgives those who confess and ask for forgiveness, and we are required to forgive others the same way God forgives us (Ephesians 4:32).

If they confess and are repentant of their trespass, then you forgive them. Jesus said; "If thy brother trespass against thee, rebuke him; and if he repent, forgive him" (Luke 17:3)
 
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