Gay/LGBT "Christian" Singers
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I recently found out that my 18 year old brother is bisexual. It's hard. I'm the only one in our family that knows and he doesn't want anyone else to know for the reason that he thinks my grandparents will disown him.
I have had friends that have suggested that I talk to him about it. But what am I supposed to say? I think he probably already knows about what I would say or my grandparents for that matter. That being gay is a sin and that you need to repent. Is that really going to do anything? Especially at that age. He just loves to be different and stand out and to be defiant.
What makes it worse is that his friends are all so supportive. Like, once someone comes out of the closet, it is ENCOURAGED, because according to society, if you do anything BUT encourage being gay, then you are close minded and a terrible person. Especially if you are a millennial who is against homosexuality.
He was raised as a Christian just as I was and still goes to church with the family every Sunday. But he's going off to college in the fall and I can only imagine that making the issue worse.
I have had friends that have suggested that I talk to him about it. But what am I supposed to say? I think he probably already knows about what I would say or my grandparents for that matter. That being gay is a sin and that you need to repent. Is that really going to do anything? Especially at that age. He just loves to be different and stand out and to be defiant.
What makes it worse is that his friends are all so supportive. Like, once someone comes out of the closet, it is ENCOURAGED, because according to society, if you do anything BUT encourage being gay, then you are close minded and a terrible person. Especially if you are a millennial who is against homosexuality.
He was raised as a Christian just as I was and still goes to church with the family every Sunday. But he's going off to college in the fall and I can only imagine that making the issue worse.
Here is a video by a former gay Christian. This video is from CBN.com (I'm no advocate of them in any shape or form as most will know already, but her testimony is great). I actually used to listen to a lot of her music and saw her testimony a long time ago. I know this is kind of the opposite of what the OP is asking for, but it's worth posting. Hope he doesn't mind. Jackie Hill-Perry:
[video=youtube;iD_-4iSRn6k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD_-4iSRn6k[/video]
[video=youtube;iD_-4iSRn6k]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD_-4iSRn6k[/video]
So he values his inheritance from his grandparents more than the love of His heavenly Father.
Don't kid yourself. He is defiant and rebellious but those are not characteristics of a Christian. There is no reason to expect him to get better only worse. He is crossing a lot of barriers and helping him to avoid responsibility is only adding to his problem.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Don't kid yourself. He is defiant and rebellious but those are not characteristics of a Christian. There is no reason to expect him to get better only worse. He is crossing a lot of barriers and helping him to avoid responsibility is only adding to his problem.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
He's not afraid of being disowned because of an inheritance. They will probably not pass anything monetarily down to us after death. He does value their opinions... somewhat. I think in his mind though, they would disown him because "that's just how they were raised and they don't know any better." Because I have no doubt that any of his peers have anything against being gay, like I said, a lot of people in my generation encourage it.
So, to a lot of people in this day, the gay rights movement is simply another version of the black rights movement. And that anyone who still thinks that being gay is wrong is just living in the past. And that one day years from now people will look back and say "Wow, people really thought that about gays and they didn't let them get married?" Kind of like people do now with race. It is very common for Christians around my age and younger to think that you can be practicing unrepenting gay and still be a Christian. Some even think that homosexuality isn't a sin at all.
This is NOT what I believe but what a lot of non-Christians and lukewarm Christians think about being gay and the whole gay rights movement.
I guess this is just an explanation of why it probably won't matter what I or anyone else says to him, that he will just write me off as living in the past and being close minded.
So, to a lot of people in this day, the gay rights movement is simply another version of the black rights movement. And that anyone who still thinks that being gay is wrong is just living in the past. And that one day years from now people will look back and say "Wow, people really thought that about gays and they didn't let them get married?" Kind of like people do now with race. It is very common for Christians around my age and younger to think that you can be practicing unrepenting gay and still be a Christian. Some even think that homosexuality isn't a sin at all.
This is NOT what I believe but what a lot of non-Christians and lukewarm Christians think about being gay and the whole gay rights movement.
I guess this is just an explanation of why it probably won't matter what I or anyone else says to him, that he will just write me off as living in the past and being close minded.
J
God loves us all. He loves us even when we mess up in sin. In His Word He has said that acting on homosexual feelings is a sin. I don't think it is sinful to feel the desire, as much as it is to act on it. I think the best thing that we can do for those is to remind them of God's love instead of slamming "you're going to hell" down their throats. We are called to love, are we not? But also be bold in witnessing.
when you say cruising, I guess you may mean looking for on purpose?
nothing like that will come up unless you search for it
just this morning I was looking for some nice ocean pics for my desktop and not one picture of gay Christians came up
just sayin'
nothing like that will come up unless you search for it
just this morning I was looking for some nice ocean pics for my desktop and not one picture of gay Christians came up
just sayin'
I'm gonna tell everyone my business..... I was looking for a song "Whenever I Forget" by a male singer. Never found it. Noticed that even in quotes, it wouldn't come up.
So I searched for male CCM singers, & male worship leaders, & one of these gay videoes came up.
Then I searched for gay/lgbt christian singers & was swamped with pages of this stuff..... Thus this thread.
I'm not required to explain my motives to anyone, & frankly it's none of sevenseas' business.
But I think we all know by now the real reason why she wrote her post..... it's who she is & what she does.
T
Honestly, I thought about telling you off, but I thought it was more important to do right by the others.
I'm gonna tell everyone my business..... I was looking for a song "Whenever I Forget" by a male singer. Never found it. Noticed that even in quotes, it wouldn't come up.
So I searched for male CCM singers, & male worship leaders, & one of these gay videoes came up.
Then I searched for gay/lgbt christian singers & was swamped with pages of this stuff..... Thus this thread.
I'm not required to explain my motives to anyone, & frankly it's none of sevenseas' business.
But I think we all know by now the real reason why she wrote her post..... it's who she is & what she does.
I'm gonna tell everyone my business..... I was looking for a song "Whenever I Forget" by a male singer. Never found it. Noticed that even in quotes, it wouldn't come up.
So I searched for male CCM singers, & male worship leaders, & one of these gay videoes came up.
Then I searched for gay/lgbt christian singers & was swamped with pages of this stuff..... Thus this thread.
I'm not required to explain my motives to anyone, & frankly it's none of sevenseas' business.
But I think we all know by now the real reason why she wrote her post..... it's who she is & what she does.
S
Honestly, I thought about telling you off, but I thought it was more important to do right by the others.
I'm gonna tell everyone my business..... I was looking for a song "Whenever I Forget" by a male singer. Never found it. Noticed that even in quotes, it wouldn't come up.
So I searched for male CCM singers, & male worship leaders, & one of these gay videoes came up.
Then I searched for gay/lgbt christian singers & was swamped with pages of this stuff..... Thus this thread.
I'm not required to explain my motives to anyone, & frankly it's none of sevenseas' business.
But I think we all know by now the real reason why she wrote her post..... it's who she is & what she does.
I'm gonna tell everyone my business..... I was looking for a song "Whenever I Forget" by a male singer. Never found it. Noticed that even in quotes, it wouldn't come up.
So I searched for male CCM singers, & male worship leaders, & one of these gay videoes came up.
Then I searched for gay/lgbt christian singers & was swamped with pages of this stuff..... Thus this thread.
I'm not required to explain my motives to anyone, & frankly it's none of sevenseas' business.
But I think we all know by now the real reason why she wrote her post..... it's who she is & what she does.
we are all pretty much assured you will do it somewhere else and if not to me, then someone else
please. get real
I didn't ask for your motives. I understand how the net works. I identified your search and now you did too. don't care about that. it's the accidental claim that is disingenuous
at any rate, your language always betrays your motives. you are not for peace among us here. as you stated, you wanted to tell me off
no kidding
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Elizabeth,
we pray that he will one day remember his 'roots', and choose to come into obedience and submission
to his Saviour, and that he will look-up to and respect the lives of your grandparents and yourself
as true and living witnesses who love and walk with Christ...
Elizabeth,
we pray that he will one day remember his 'roots', and choose to come into obedience and submission
to his Saviour, and that he will look-up to and respect the lives of your grandparents and yourself
as true and living witnesses who love and walk with Christ...
Here is something a little bit more on topic. This is from The View so keep that in mind. This guy talks about being gay. He says somewhere in the video that he's been accused of being a false teacher, but goes on to say, "Maybe its your [people who think that homosexuality is wrong] false teaching..." I'd be interested to see why he thinks that other people are actually the false teachers. Would he use the Bible to back it up?
He also talks about being raised to hate homosexuality, that he was always told it was a choice and how that mindset "can be damaging." And my response to that would be that you can't expect it to be easy. Being a Christian and repent of any sin that you've struggled with for years is going to be difficult. I think that "damage" he is talking about is really just conviction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3o82zU9O-Y
He also talks about being raised to hate homosexuality, that he was always told it was a choice and how that mindset "can be damaging." And my response to that would be that you can't expect it to be easy. Being a Christian and repent of any sin that you've struggled with for years is going to be difficult. I think that "damage" he is talking about is really just conviction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3o82zU9O-Y
Hi Elizabeth,
So sorry to hear about your brother.
All I can say is that I loved my brother first and foremost and because of that, even though he disagreed, but with me showing him scriptures and explaining why it's wrong, he was able to hear truth and know what God says about sin. And he'll know that anytime in the future if he wants to repent.
And he knows he can come to me any time he wants. He told me out of all our siblings which are many, I'm the only one who really is nice to him. I'm glad he said that because that means he sees Jesus in me and it also makes me think that he may feel more comfortable to come to me again in the future.
Your brother needs to hear the truth from those he loves. He may never hear it if you don't tell him.
Even if he may get angry at first, he'll see that you said it because you love him. And if he rejects you, it's not you he's really rejecting, it's Jesus and His righteousness. A person can be in church and never hear a word about the truth because many kids zone it out.
But if you speak directly to him, he will hear and listen. And sometimes things don't always register right then, but they think about what you've said later.
But first of all pray for God to give you courage to speak to your brother. He knows you love him, right?
One thing I'd suggest is that you allow him to read the passages of scripture that talks about the good news of the gospel and what it means for God's love to send His Son to die on our behalf so that we could receive forgiveness of sin and eternal life in Him.
It will be different for you, but how it happened with my brother is that we were sitting talking about life and then I told him about my new life in Christ. After discussing that it got to where he asked some questions as to why his lifestyle was wrong. That's where we used the old and new testament scriptures about homosexuality.
I would like to suggest that you be prepared. Know the scriptures ahead of time that you want to share with him. Pray and ask God to help you and most of all, let your brother know your love for him and that you want to see him have a full life of all that is good that's of God and that you don't want to see him end up in hell and that you want to share eternal life with him in heaven.
Since you said you go to church, you could make an appt to see your pastor or maybe an elder of your church. Or a youth minister if you have one. Whomever you feel comfortable with to talk to them about this serious issue.
You don't have to say it's your brother, just say that someone you know is in a bisexual relationship and ask him for help on how to approach talking to this person.
I will pray for you to have the courage. I don't know how old you are, but God even uses very young children to bring others the truth. One of my children at about 5 years old asked a person at the store if they new Jesus.