Generational Sin?

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BillG

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What is it?
Is it a reality for a believer?
Is so why and how so?
If it carries over to a believer and they struggle with it what are the consequences?
 

TM19782017

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Ahhhh!....The old nature vs. nurture argument.

One allows blaming another for your areas of struggle and weakness.

The other believes that regardless of what hand I was dealt from the start, things can change.
 
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What is it?
Is it a reality for a believer?
Is so why and how so?
If it carries over to a believer and they struggle with it what are the consequences?
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.

Deu 5:8 Thou shalt not make thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the waters beneath the earth:
Deu 5:9 Thou shalt not bow down thyself unto them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me.
Deu 5:10 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me and keep my commandments.

We are not blamed for the sins of others, and our own lifestyle determines our standing with God.

It does not matter if Hitler was your father, for you are not blamed for his sin.

We are not blamed for the sin of Adam and Eve, but when they ate of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil they then had a choice, so all of humanity is born with a choice, so they are born not knowing God, and will do wrong before they come to God to repent of their sin.

So all have sinned, done the act, not born with it, and fall short of the glory of God.

It states that God will visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the children that hate Him, so this curse is not upon the children that follow God in the truth.

If the children are not blamed for the sins of their fathers then it can only mean that their father was engaged in idolatry, not following the truth of God, and it affected his children to where they did the same, such as certain kings of Israel that did evil in the sight of God that affected people.

Which God is speaking of idolatry, and to those that hate Him because of that idolatry, not following God, or not in the truth, which the children were affected because of the iniquity of their father that passed down the line unto the children, and they did the same.

For even if their father is the one that started the idolatry in the family, and falsehood, the children that are affected by it and do the same because it is the family, God will visit the iniquity of their father upon them, which they have no excuse because their father started it, for they are still responsible for their own actions.

But this curse is only to those offspring in the family that follow the same falsehood as their father, for the children that do not God will not go against them.

So God is not going against them because of what their father did, but to those that do the same as their father.

It is the only thing that makes sense for we are not blamed for the sins done by other people, but we are only responsible for our own sins.

Which Israel should know better for Israel is His chosen people, and the Old Testament given to them.

Which generational curse or not, everyone is still responsible for their own actions, and even though their father was the one that was involved in the idolatry, and not following the truth, God will still go against the children that do the same as their father, and will not let it go, and they do not have an excuse because their father was involved in it, and started it in the family.

For obeying your parents does not apply when it is something that is idolatry, and not following the truth, for the truth of God supersedes that.

It seems like generational curse means that God will not let it go to the ones that follow the same falsehood as their father, for they have no excuse because it came from their father first, but they are responsible for their own actions, and whatever curses came upon the father will come upon the offspring that followed that falsehood in the family.

But to those that did not follow the falsehood in the family they have no curse, because God will visit the iniquity of the father upon them in the future that hate Him, not the ones that broke from that deception and followed the truth.

It is not a curse that comes upon all the offspring in the future regardless if they were in the truth, or not, but only upon those that follow the family deception.

For nobody is blamed for the sins of another person.
 
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What is it?
Is it a reality for a believer?
Is so why and how so?
If it carries over to a believer and they struggle with it what are the consequences?

The generation of sin is known also as the evil generation, no blessing after the generation of natural man as those in Adam .They are the ones that walk according to that seen. The generation of Christ represent the Christian, a new born again generation. The new Adam beginning or generation. They walk by faith the unseen eternal .
 

FollowHisSteps

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Feb 15, 2019
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What is it?
Is it a reality for a believer?
Is so why and how so?
If it carries over to a believer and they struggle with it what are the consequences?
I have heard of spiritists, and mediums in previous generations cause problems in their
children and grand children if they come to Christ. Some have testified to needing special
ministry and seeking cleansing from the inherited spiritual effects.

I do wonder if spiritual kingdom authority can be comprimised without realising it, which
need repenting of, to break the link. Because this is a spiritual release and freeing of someone
in their life it is very subjective, but there is something here.

For me personally I have pastors and church goers in my family, so have not had this issue, that
I know of, God bless you.
 
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The bible has collective punishment in it several times. Birds, fish, all innocent wildlife is wiped out in Noah's flood purely by association--they were living beings who were not Noah.

Since the Christian view is that man's disobedience to God was not good, it means that they believe life on Earth is a punishment, and therefore, we are all guilty of Adam's sin. Many Christians also believe that Jesus died for sins that people were going to commit thousands of years later, however, this is contradicting bible verses that say no man can die for the sins of another. Regardless, vicarious redemption is a form of generational sin.

Of course, there are the verses that have already been quoted above that talk about how God punishes people for the sins of their ancestors because he is a vengeful and jealous creator.

Also, “Women will be saved through childbearing–if they continue in faith, love and holiness with propriety” (1 Tm. 2:15)
This shows that all women having the ability to give birth is a punishment for what Eve Adam did all those years ago.