Genesis ch 1&2 is misunderstood

[Waggles]

Genesis chapters 1&2 are probably the most misunderstood topics in the Bible. The Hebrew words translated into English are similar but not exact. The only way to know the exact meaning of the Hebrew words is to have a copy of “The Complete Word Study Old Testament”.

Good Bible study
This is good Bible study and has been part of Pentecostal teaching for
nigh on a hundred years.

there were two creations - chapter 1 are all the major races of the world
who would have started off as hunters and gathers

chapter 2 - where Adam was formed and Eve was formed from Adam
some 40,000 years later than chapter 1 on the 8th day
and he was separated from the rest of humanity and placed in a garden
Adam and Eve specifically represent the first church, the beginning of the
plan to bring salvation into the world through a chosen one to come
the first Adam and the second Adam.

We know that other people existed in the world when Cain complained
to God about the mark placed on him
13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou has driven me out this day from the face of the earth;
and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond
in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that finds me shall
slay me.
Genesis 4:

We also know that other people inhabited the earth apart from Adam's family
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land
of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he built a city,
and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:

 

[Nehemiah6]

there were two creations - chapter 1 are all the major races of the world
who would have started off as hunters and gathers

chapter 2 - where Adam was formed and Eve was formed from Adam
some 40,000 years later than chapter 1 on the 8th day

Waggles,

How in the world can this be "a good Bible study" when it turns the Bible on its head? What you have stated above is not only PURE SPECULATION but CONTRADICTS the Word of God.

1. Do you believe that the Ten Commandments were literally carved into stone tablets by the finger of God?

2. Do you believe that the Ten Commandments are perfect because God gave them personally?

3. Then how can you contradict the 4th commandment?

EXODUS 20

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger thatis within thy gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

 

[Dan58]

Some Christians believe that Adam himself was an eighth day creation. God had already created men and women in Genesis 1:27, but Genesis 2:5 says; "There was not a man to till the ground". There were hunters & fishers, but no farmer to tend the ground. "God took the man, and put him into the garden of Eden to dress it and to keep it." (Gen 2:15). While most Christians don't ascribe to this, many believe this specific man was a separate creation for a specific purpose, of who's bloodline Messiah would come.The Hebrew "adam" means man or mankind in general (Gen 1), while "ha adam" with the article, means "the man" referring to a specific man (Adam). With the article and particle "eth ha adam", it is very emphatic and is referring to one specific man (Gen 2:7). In such a case, the animals formed in Genesis 2:19, were specific to Adam (the farmer). Genesis 1:24 refers to the creation of the "beast of the earth", while Genesis 2:19 says "God formed every beast of the field". A differentiation of God forming new domestic animals specifically for Adam.

Genesis 1:26, "And God said, Let us make man in our image". 'Adam' without the article denotes man or mankind in general, followed by plural pronoun.. The NIV says mankind.

Genesis 2:7, "And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground." Here, 'man' with the particle in addition to the article "eth ha adam" is singular, referring to a specific man.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Some Christians believe that Adam himself was an eighth day creation.

And obviously that is completely false, since the Ten Commandments limit God's creative work to just six days. And that is CARVED IN STONE!

 

[tanakh]

Lets face it the only real way is to learn Biblical Hebrew and Greek. Many including myself are not gifted in learning languages so us poor souls have to make do with whatever language we speak and pick up crumbs from others.

 

[RNCM]

in Gen 1:27 the Hebrew text says האדם /H-ADaM, literally meaning ‘the ADaM’,.By comparison of the other one hundred and twenty five times this exact Hebrew phrase is used, as well as the specific ath he-adam / האדם את, it is not ever in strict use on one individual man, but rather to a specific group of man / men identified (as will be shown to be racial) adam being a singular and plural noun; for at this place YHWH God did not make just the individual being, the man Adam, but rather Adam’s whole race, a race of beings made after the image oof GOD.

âdâm: From H119; ruddy…

H119- ‘âdam: To show blood (in the face), that is, flush or turn rosy: – be (dyed, made) red (ruddy).

H1818- דּם – dâm: From H1826* (compare H119); blood (as that which when shed causes death) of man or an animal...

An Examination
of the
“red earth” Theory
There is a rabbinical tradition that is expressed by Christian creationists which states that Adam was formed from “red earth/soil” known as adamah in the Hebrew and for this reason, they believe, God called humanities first father and mother “Adam”.

It is true that the general Hebrew word for all soil (red or otherwise) is “adamah”. Let us examine the logic of this definition as it applies to biblical adam, wither adam was named from the dust of the earth (adamah), which he and all other living breathing creatures were taken from, or wither God had another purpose for adam’s naming.

In Gen 1:25( “…and every thing that creepeth upon the earth האדמהH127 after his kind:”) is the first use of adamah, next AdaMH is found in direct relation to ADaM in Gen 2:5: where it is stated that “there was not a man (ADaM)H120 to till the ground.(ADaMH) H127…” and directly in Gen 2:7, And YHWHH3068 GodH430 formed (the)man (he-adam)H120 of the dust of the ground (adamah)H127 . So do the Rabbinical / creationist traditionalists (seminarians) have bearing? No. In and of it self and in direct counter proof Gen 2:19 specifically states that YHWH formed every beast or life from the ground (adamah), just as adam was taken from the adamah / ground, the Hebraic logic is present in the rabbinical tradition but the end conclusion of the logic is lacking greatly in this pressing point.

 

[Waggles]

Waggles,

How in the world can this be "a good Bible study" when it turns the Bible on its head? What you have stated above is not only PURE SPECULATION but CONTRADICTS the Word of God.

1. Do you believe that the Ten Commandments were literally carved into stone tablets by the finger of God?

2. Do you believe that the Ten Commandments are perfect because God gave them personally?

3. Then how can you contradict the 4th commandment?

EXODUS 20

8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger thatis within thy gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

None of the above contradicts the Biblical truth that Adam was formed
on the eighth day - a new beginning - the first Adam - the son of God

You are not a student of Bible study but rather you rehash
Roman Catholic theology

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I don’t know ?
Hey do the pots come cracked?
Blessings
Bill

Sadly they became void and without form. And had to be made new, but they where billions of years old.. rumor has it there was ancient language unheard of as art on the pots. But when they were remade, the lnaguage dissapeared! It was a sad loss.

Now people will say they are only about 10000 years old.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

yes

it's reel to real

thanks for the root beer...was running out of 7up

I need coke Zero (have to watch my sugar) I will bring a six pack!

 

[tourist]

I need coke Zero (have to watch my sugar) I will bring a six pack!

My wife enjoys Cherry Coke Zero, usually gets the 12 pack.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Oh boy, My eyes hurt reading this page.. Mu stomach is a little queezy now also..

 

[tourist]

yes

it's reel to real

thanks for the root beer...was running out of 7up

7UP is crisp and clean with no caffeine.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

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My wife enjoys Cherry Coke Zero, usually gets the 12 pack.

I am so thankful for Coke zero. I hate diet coke.. McDonalds does not carry it any more. I am bummed.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

7UP is crisp and clean with no caffeine.

Thank you bro, you Gave this page some hope!

 

[tourist]

I am so thankful for Coke zero. I hate diet coke.. McDonalds does not carry it any more. I am bummed.

Maybe Burger King has it. Nah, probably not. That's the home of the Whopper.

 

[tourist]

What I'm really misunderstanding is your post and the conclusion that you have drawn.

 

[trofimus]

Good Bible study
This is good Bible study and has been part of Pentecostal teaching for
nigh on a hundred years.

there were two creations - chapter 1 are all the major races of the world
who would have started off as hunters and gathers

chapter 2 - where Adam was formed and Eve was formed from Adam
some 40,000 years later than chapter 1 on the 8th day
and he was separated from the rest of humanity and placed in a garden
Adam and Eve specifically represent the first church, the beginning of the
plan to bring salvation into the world through a chosen one to come
the first Adam and the second Adam.

We know that other people existed in the world when Cain complained
to God about the mark placed on him
13 And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.
14 Behold, thou has driven me out this day from the face of the earth;
and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond
in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that finds me shall
slay me.
Genesis 4:

We also know that other people inhabited the earth apart from Adam's family
16 And Cain went out from the presence of the LORD, and dwelt in the land
of Nod, on the east of Eden.
17 And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he built a city,
and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
Genesis 4:

I think its possible that Adam & Eve were first Homo Sapiens Sapiens and people of "the land of Nod", the wife of Cain etc could be Neanderthals or other proto-humans able to have sexual relations with our kind.

But our knowledge of archeology, DNA etc. is still developing, so we will see how it will be all put together later.

 

[DevotiontoBible]

Genesis chapters 1&2 are probably the most misunderstood topics in the Bible. The Hebrew words translated into English are similar but not exact. The only way to know the exact meaning of the Hebrew words is to have a copy of “The Complete Word Study Old Testament”.
The Hebrew word translated as “create” possesses the meaning of “bringing into existence” and usually created out of nothing.
The Hebrew word translated “made or make”dealt with the refinement of a previously created object. Not too different from evolution.
The Hebrew word translated as “formed” found in chapter 2 means to form or fashion much like a potter would do, and is not interchangeable with the other words create, made or make.
The words “create” and “made or make” alternate in chapter 1(sometimes in the same verse) showing that they are words with different meanings and are simply not interchangeable as most people believe.
We have all been taught that “Adam” and man of chapter 1 are the same person, but when you know the meaning of the Hebrew words and don’t ignore the chronology of the two chapters (man of chapter 1 was the last of creation and Adam of chapter 2 was the first of creation) and other events, the only logical conclusion is that they weren’t the same person.
In chapter 1, the word “earth” appears many times and is translated from the Hebrew word that means the whole earth – as opposed to heaven.
In chapter 2 that same word isn’t used, instead the word “ground” is used and it means something much different. The Hebrew word translated as ground means ground, a parcel of ground, or region or territory – quite different!

See folks, this is why we need to ban word study books along with assault rifles from irresponsible people. If you misuse it you shouldn't have it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What I'm really misunderstanding is your post and the conclusion that you have drawn.

which post bro?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

See folks, this is why we need to ban word study books along with assault rifles from irresponsible people. If you misuse it you shouldn't have it.

Yep this will stop the killing, and stop people from finding someone who also believes as they do to vindicatre they are right.

SMH!!!