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Thats not the point the point is how u seem to create threads specifically designed to cause heated debates and the apostles never purposely caused trouble. Good night to u sir
When iron sharpens iron sometimes sparks fly.
 
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Do not judge does not mean do not keep.
 

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all through the bible God is mad because man follows there traditions not Gods.

I stoped all of mans traditions, and have been keeping Gods Holy convocations.

I keep his feasts because they are His feasts...

now the feast of unleavened bread, the night to be most remembered
is done and commanded in honor of the passover blood.

Jesus keep the feast

Luke 22:1 (KJV)
Now the feast of unleavened bread drew nigh, which is called (the Passover).

Matthew 26:17 (KJV)
Now the first day of the feast of unleavened bread the disciples came to Jesus, saying unto him,
Where wilt thou that we prepare for thee to eat the passover?

Mark 14:12 (KJV)
And the first day of unleavened bread, when they killed the passover, his disciples said unto him,
Where wilt thou that we go and prepare that thou mayest eat the passover?

new testament command

22And as they did eat, Jesus took bread, and blessed, and brake it, and gave to them, and said,
Take, eat: this is my body.
23And he took the cup, and when he had given thanks, he gave it to them: and they all drank of it.

24And he said unto them, This is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many.
25 Verily I say unto you, I will drink no more of the fruit of the vine,
until that day that I drink it new in the kingdom of God.

deciples keep feast after Christs death
Acts 12:3 (KJV)
And because he saw it pleased the Jews, he proceeded further to take Peter also.
(Then were the days of unleavened bread.)

Acts 20:6 (KJV)
And we sailed away from Philippi after (the days of unleavened bread),
and came unto them to Troas in five days; where we abode seven days.


1 Corinthians 5:7 (KJV)
Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:

1 Corinthians 5:8 (KJV)

Therefore let us keep the feast,

not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

passover was once a year, not anytime church wants to drink his blood.
If we keep unleavened bread we would know that easter is a lie.
people do not want to put sin out of there lives and they believe a lie.

1What advantage then hath the Jew? or what profit is there of circumcision?
2Much every way: chiefly, because that unto them were committed the oracles of God.

“Ye shall not do after all the things that we do here this day,
every man whatsoever is right in his own eyes”

“Take heed
to thyself that thou be not snared by following them [pagan
religious customs] … and that thou inquire not after their gods

Verily (my sabbaths) ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout
your generations that ye may know that I am the [Eternal] that doth sanctify you”
 
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But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. 2For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.


They knew the times and seasons...I want to too.:)
 
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The most powerful testimony for keeping God's times is found in Daniel 7:25. Here we find a future religious system looking to change God's set times and Law.

Daniel 7:25 He will speak against the Most High and oppress his holy people and try to change the set times and the laws. The holy people will be delivered into his hands for a time, times and half a time.

If God's time and Law were meant to be changed what significance would this warning have for us today? None!

The set times of God paint us a picture of God's plan. They teach us the exact timing and purpose for what God is doing. The new man made days teach us nothing of God's plan, but rather, they distort God's plan and lead God's people into confusion and division. For example, the words, "day of the week" in the verse, "first day of the week" is not saying Sunday is the new day to gather. The words, "day of the week" are not part of the original language. The word that should be there is the word, "Sabbath". Why was it called, "the first Sabbath"? Because they were counting Sabbaths.

Luke 6:1 Now it happened on the second Sabbath after the first that He went through the grainfields. And His disciples plucked the heads of grain and ate them, rubbing them in their hands.

In order for this false system to make the changes to God's set times and Law it must tweak the Bible to allow for the acceptance of these changes. Let me give you another example. The holiday known as, Easter, has nothing to do with God. It's a man made holiday rooted and established in Babylon. Knowing this, you should not find any such name as, Easter, in the Bible but we do find it in the Bible. The reason for this is because if the false system is to move God's people to accept Easter as a day established by God it must be found in the Bible.

Acts 12:4 And when he had apprehended him, he put him in prison, and delivered him to four quaternions of soldiers to keep him; intending after Easter to bring him forth to the people.

It's the little subtle changes to the Bible that lead God's people astray and fight for things such as, keeping Christ in Christmas, when Christ was never in Christmas.
 
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The shadow of things to come.

16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come;

but the body is of Christ.

-all of Gods Sabbaths and feasts, are a shadow of things to come.
does this verse above say Christ is the Shadow of any or all of them ?

18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

-are we worshipping angels for keeping Gods feasts ?
or do we watch for the angeles might give another gospel.

20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why,
as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

- what ordinances, living in this world, are ye subject to?

21(Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?

-these are commandments and doctrines of man, not Gods.

now we see the shadow of passover and unleavened bread,
and we see the firstfruits in pentacost,

now what does the rest of his feasts shadow ?
because he tells use in his word.
 
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The shadow of things to come.

16Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of
an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Which are a shadow of things to come;

but the body is of Christ.

-all of Gods Sabbaths and feasts, are a shadow of things to come.
does this verse above say Christ is the Shadow of any or all of them ?

18Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels,
intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,

-are we worshipping angels for keeping Gods feasts ?
or do we watch for the angeles might give another gospel.

20Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from the rudiments of the world, why,
as though living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances,

- what ordinances, living in this world, are ye subject to?

21(Touch not; taste not; handle not;
22Which all are to perish with the using after the commandments and doctrines of men?

-these are commandments and doctrines of man, not Gods.

now we see the shadow of passover and unleavened bread,
and we see the firstfruits in pentacost,

now what does the rest of his feasts shadow ?
because he tells use in his word.
Can you elaborate on the things you've said because I'm a little slow. It sounds like you're saying the Feasts still abide for the New Covenant believer.
 

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i believe the feast of unleavened bread if valid

not saying we have to observe others.


but they still show things to come, like milliliam and putting sin back on satan and sends into wilderness

or the day of atoinment or the great day ending.


what im saying is the shadows was not just to point to the death of christ,

but was showing man how the rest of the story goes
 
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Give me proof for why you literally keep the Feast Days.

I don't believe the seventh day Sabbath is part of the shadows because the shadows were instituted after the fall because of sin and the seventh day of creation was before sin.

We also know how God makes a distinction between the seventh day Sabbath and all the other Feast Days.

Leviticus 23:1-4 The Lord said to Moses, “Give the following instructions to the people of Israel. These are the Lord’s appointed festivals, which you are to proclaim as official days for holy assembly. “You have six days each week for your ordinary work, but the seventh day is a Sabbath day of complete rest, an official day for holy assembly. It is the Lord’s Sabbath day, and it must be observed wherever you live. “In addition to the Sabbath, these are the Lord’s appointed festivals, the official days for holy assembly that are to be celebrated at their proper times each year.

We know the Feast Days paint a picture for us of how God was going to deal with sin through His son Jesus. Since Jesus came and finished the work of a atonement there is no need to literally keep the Feast Days unless you want to. This is why Colossians tells us not to judge in regard to these shadows and symbols because Jesus is the fulfillment of them.

Colossians 2:16-17 So let no one judge you in food or in drink, or regarding a festival or a new moon or sabbaths, which are a shadow of things to come, but the substance is of Christ.

So, with this in mind, can you give me NT proof of why you literally keep the Feast Days?
Try this for proof. Not to my credit, but I wrote this book because I was curious about the feast days also.

Three Feasts of the Pentateuch

I keep the feast days Spiritually. All things of God, through Christ, are seen Spiritually discerned, for the law is spiritual. The canal mind cannot comprehend those feast days.

Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be .
 
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Can one love God without keeping His commandments?

Anyway, back to the original thread. I already know why everyone else rejects the Feast Days and the Sabbath and celebrates Christmas and Easter. My question is how do those who keep them justify their practices?
On Christmas I got gifts. On Easter I loved to hunt the eggs. Also around here Easter marked the opening day of hunting mushrooms.

 
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On Christmas I got gifts. On Easter I loved to hunt the eggs. Also around here Easter marked the opening day of hunting mushrooms.
This is a Bible discussion so try to keep it biblical.
 
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I never did until I tried to understand their meanings by taking the respective days off work to study. Far as I know not all feasts are fulfilled (that's a good reason for me to keep). I will try to continue to take these days off to study until I figure them out or when they are fulfilled.
 
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I never did until I tried to understand their meanings by taking the respective days off work to study. Far as I know not all feasts are fulfilled (that's a good reason for me to keep). I will try to continue to take these days off to study until I figure them out or when they are fulfilled.
I agree... the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled with His return, during Fall Feast. We are supposed to be watching.
 
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I agree... the Fall Feasts will be fulfilled with His return, during Fall Feast. We are supposed to be watching.
WOW! That's cool... We are supposed to be watching! Just like the Passover, Jesus had to fulfill it on time and on schedule so if the Fall Feasts paint the picture of His return and He must fulfill them on time and according to schedule we should be watching during those times. We don't know the day or the hour but we can know the season. Cool!
 
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God blesses the seventh day in Gen 2:3. There is no commandment for anybody to do anything about this.
The commandment to keep a sabbath rest comes as part of the law.
And who says that Saturday is the seventh day? What we call days is now just arbitrary. The Jews being told to keep, Saturday as the Sabbath is also part of the law. It is this law, which you call a shadow and which you say you are not keeping (but really you are).
 
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God blesses the seventh day in Gen 2:3. There is no commandment for anybody to do anything about this.
The commandment to keep a sabbath rest comes as part of the law.
And who says that Saturday is the seventh day? What we call days is now just arbitrary. The Jews being told to keep, Saturday as the Sabbath is also part of the law. It is this law, which you call a shadow and which you say you are not keeping (but really you are).
The seventh day was created holy, the fourth commandment only commands us to remember to keep it holy. The Law was given because of transgression which means they should have been keeping the seventh day holy before the Law but they weren't thus the need for the Law. In the same way murder was wrong before the Law (Cain and Able) thus the need for the Law. The Law didn't make the seventh day holy nor did it make murder wrong.
 
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God blesses the seventh day in Gen 2:3. There is no commandment for anybody to do anything about this.
Definitely not for anybody not related to the One who created the world by His Word in six days and rested on the 7th and the Word who came in the flesh identifying Himself as the Lord of the Sabbath.
 
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I'm a Sabbath keeper but there are far and few of them out there so it's hard to find fellowship. Just about all the Sabbath keeping church in my area also keep the Feast Days so I want to know how they use the NT to support literally keeping the Feast Days. It has nothing to do with judging them, I just want to see the NT verses that are used to support it. I know there are a few but I'm not sure they should be used to command observance.
You separate yourself and fellowship with the body of Christ because you want to favor those who keep the Sabbath. You won't find many Gentiles keeping the Sabbath and you are doing the same in principle concerning the law as they did in the church at Galatia.
 
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You separate yourself and fellowship with the body of Christ because you want to favor those who keep the Sabbath. You won't find many Gentiles keeping the Sabbath and you are doing the same in principle concerning the law as they did in the church at Galatia.
There are a lot of churches in my area marrying same sex partners. Should if follow the body of Christ wherever it goes?
 
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You separate yourself and fellowship with the body of Christ because you want to favor those who keep the Sabbath. You won't find many Gentiles keeping the Sabbath and you are doing the same in principle concerning the law as they did in the church at Galatia.
Blame it on Paul whose walk in Pisidian Antioch in Galatia did not align with his talk in his letter to the Galatians including those in Pisidian Antioch.
Or blame it on his negligence to teach against the observance of Sabbath while he had the chance to both the Jews and gentiles on the Sabbath in the synagogues in Pisidian Antioch cf Acts 13:13-49.
Or blame it on our misunderstanding on his letter to the Galatians.