God or Guns?

[Therapon]

[quote=peterT;889146]Are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it. Do you think the right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians are of the few there be that find it.[/quote]



I wouldn't be in any rush to judge, anymore than we would judge you, because by the grace of God, both of us might be included in the "few that find it."

 

[RickShafer]

Are there few that be saved? And he said unto them, strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

Do you think the right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians are of the few there be that find it.

There shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

14Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.

I can't let that nonsense pass...who ever you are that gird yourself with killing instruments in you avatar.
Is that supposed to be the armaments of Ephesians six?
If it is, you forgot one thing....wisdom.

He said - "Do you think the right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians are of the few there be that find it."

Try using commas before you judge others in your killing regalia.
Learn simple rules for punctuation before you take it upon yourself to judge a whole nation that knows how to express themselves in written form.
It's kind of hard to win anyone to your cause when you don't know the simplest rules of grammar.
Try a home learning version of phonics before you post again.
Either that or maybe the helmet of salvation is too tight.

 

[peterT]

I wouldn't be in any rush to judge, anymore than we would judge you, because by the grace of God, both of us might be included in the "few that find it."

Yep.

But I can judge rightness judgement according to the Bible

And I am not interested in the mote that is in my brothers eye bro, but I am interested in my brother being a friend of this world, and who they would kill to defend your loaves and fishes.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

few that be saved and strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and I just can’t see the right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians are of the few there be that find it.

 

[RickShafer]

Yep.

But I can judge rightness judgement according to the Bible

And I am not interested in the mote that is in my brothers eye bro, but I am interested in my brother being a friend of this world, and who they would kill to defend your loaves and fishes.

Titus 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;
1 Timothy 5:20 Them that sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.

few that be saved and strait is the gate, and narrow is the way which leadeth unto life, and I just can’t see the right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians are of the few there be that find it.

He said yet again:

"right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians ."

yet he proclaims to not be interested in the mote in another's eye?
Wow!
Keep posting "bro.", your doing us non-internationalists a favor.

Your doing good......keep on, please....keep on.

....Good job!

 

[peterT]

He said yet again:

"right-wing nation loving nationalistic gun wielding Christians ."

yet he proclaims to not be interested in the mote in another's eye?
Wow!
Keep posting "bro.", your doing us non-internationalists a favor.

Your doing good......keep on, please....keep on.

....Good job!

What is that you defending the American way?

 

[Abiding]

putting new batteries in my universal translator.

 

[RickShafer]

What is that you defending the American way?

No, not at all.
I'm defending you!
Keep posting,....PLEASE!

 

[peterT]

putting new batteries in my universal translator.

You do know that’s not a parable, it’s just a riddle.

A parable is what Jesus did, and a riddle is just man made rubbish

 

[peterT]

No, not at all.
I'm defending you!
Keep posting,....PLEASE!

Wow I got that wrong
I thought it a bit strange coming from you RickShafer
Sorry

 

[peterT]

I wouldn't be in any rush to judge, anymore than we would judge you, because by the grace of God, both of us might be included in the "few that find it."

There is a difference in the mote in your eye and judging what’s sneaking in and trying to become sound doctrine.

You boys in America are thinking it’s a hole nation a peculiar people that’s come out of darkness into his marvellous light.

WRONG

1 Peter 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:

 

[RickShafer]

Your absurdities continue on.
Please, carry on Pete!!!
Beautiful!!!
Done excellently!!!
Keep it up mate!!!

 

[1Christianwarrior316]

To those who advocate that the Word of God does not give us the right to defend ourselves, perhaps the study of “The Biblical View of Self-Defense” would be worth reading at the following link.​

http://www.biblicalselfdefense.com/​

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

 

[Therapon]

Your absurdities continue on.
Please, carry on Pete!!!
Beautiful!!!
Done excellently!!!
Keep it up mate!!!

This discussion has gotten way too intellectual and hightoned for me. Think I'll just meditate on this string's original concern: Whether to lay on my backside and allow some rag-heads to shoot my wife and molest my kids or to defend my family with a gun. Obviously a very difficult decision for the "peace at any price" crowd.

The Bible tells me to "Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked." Psalm 82:4

See you later, brother. <smile>

 

[Abiding]

You do know that’s not a parable, it’s just a riddle.

A parable is what Jesus did, and a riddle is just man made rubbish

Hmm i just ran this through my universal translator with
the bible update software and it says "you like and respect me"
cool thanks!

 

[PS]

To those who advocate that the Word of God does not give us the right to defend ourselves, perhaps the study of “The Biblical View of Self-Defense” would be worth reading at the following link.​

http://www.biblicalselfdefense.com/​

In Christ, 1Christianwarrior316

Remember the sixth commandment says not to kill and quoting Jewish law in preference to God's law as well as quoting scripture out of context does not help argue the case for murder by gun. In order to protect life which is sacrosanct the rule of an eye for an eye or a life for a life is applicable.

Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."

Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.

Exodus 21:12 "Anyone who strikes a man and kills him shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 24:17 "'If anyone takes the life of a human being, he must be put to death.

Numbers 35:33 "'Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.

Deuteronomy 5:17 "You shall not murder."

Judges 9:56 Thus God repaid the wickedness that Abimelech had done to his father by murdering his seventy brothers.

1 Kings 2:32 The LORD will repay him for the blood he shed, because without the knowledge of my father David he attacked two men and killed them with the sword.

Proverbs 28:17 A man tormented by the guilt of murder will be a fugitive till death; let no one support him.

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[PS]

This discussion has gotten way too intellectual and hightoned for me. Think I'll just meditate on this string's original concern: Whether to lay on my backside and allow some rag-heads to shoot my wife and molest my kids or to defend my family with a gun. Obviously a very difficult decision for the "peace at any price" crowd.

The Bible tells me to "Rescue the weak and needy; Deliver them out of the hand of the wicked." Psalm 82:4

See you later, brother. <smile>

Psalm 82 which you quote is a plea to the judges who are defending the unjust and showing partiality to the wicked. (verse 2)

The Psalmist is pleading with the magistrates to, "Defend the cause of the weak and fatherless; maintain the rights of the poor and oppressed. Rescue the weak and needy; deliver them from the hand of the wicked." (verses 3 and 4)

The magistrates were corrupt and favoured the wicked the same as happens today in some wealthy countries although at last some action seems to be taken against corrupt bankers, those in the Stock Exchange and corrupt politicians. Now it seems the time has come for the 'just' to focus their attention on the gun laws. I sincerely hope so.

 

[BarlyGurl]

Remember the sixth commandment says not to kill and quoting Jewish law in preference to God's law as well as quoting scripture out of context does not help argue the case for murder by gun. In order to protect life which is sacrosanct the rule of an eye for an eye or a life for a life is applicable.

Genesis 9:6 "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God has God made man."

Exodus 20:13 "You shall not murder.

Exodus 21:12 "Anyone who strikes a man and kills him shall surely be put to death.

Leviticus 24:17 "'If anyone takes the life of a human being, he must be put to death.

Numbers 35:33 "'Do not pollute the land where you are. Bloodshed pollutes the land, and atonement cannot be made for the land on which blood has been shed, except by the blood of the one who shed it.

Deuteronomy 5:17 "You shall not murder."

Judges 9:56 Thus God repaid the wickedness that Abimelech had done to his father by murdering his seventy brothers.

1 Kings 2:32 The LORD will repay him for the blood he shed, because without the knowledge of my father David he attacked two men and killed them with the sword.

Proverbs 28:17 A man tormented by the guilt of murder will be a fugitive till death; let no one support him.

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YOU are getting sooooooo tiresome. Defense of self or to protect others...is NOT murder... it is defense.

 

[Abiding]

PS what were the cities of refuge for?

 

[PS]

PS what were the cities of refuge for?

The Israelites were very vengeful. For example if two men were working and the head of an axe came off killing his friend, then it was common for a family member to take vengeance and kill the other. The Cities of Refuge were set up to offer sanctury to such people.

 

[PS]

YOU are getting sooooooo tiresome. Defense of self or to protect others...is NOT murder... it is defense.

According to the rule of an eye for an eye, if you take the life of another, your life is required of you. The intention being to prevent killing.

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