HAVE WE BEEN SOLD A LEMON ABOUT WHO THE REAL JEWS ARE ?

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Now i am white and open minded and making it to heaven is more important to me than racial pride. along my journeys in this thing we call the truth of the kingdom i have come to realize that we have been taught a pack of lies. in fact here is prophesy alluding to those who will find out about the pack of lies when it is too late >>> jeremiah 16 vs 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there isno profit

now the question is do you want to be that guy making that statement when it is too late ?

ok here are things i have found out. a huge chunk of israel will be in the land of the north ( USA ) in the last days from which the lord will redeem them. zechariah 2 vs 7
Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon


and in the daughter of babylon ( usa ) they would all be locked up in jails isaiah 42 vs 22But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

they would be oppressed. isaiah 49 vs 26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
they would be despised ISAIAH 49 VS 7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

ZEPHANIAH 2 VS 1
Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired
they would be afflicted and tossed like a tempest and not comforted ISAIAH 54 VS 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.

and they would be discontinued from their heritage as jews meaning someone would steal their identity JEREMIAH 17 VS 4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

and then it goes ahead to describe what one of their kings looks like SONG OF SOLOMON 1 VS 6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me:

and there you have it. have we been sold a lemon as to who the real jews are ? yeah i see some of your response. well the people in the middle east do not look black so the jews cant be black. but that is a stupid argument. its like someone saying the native indians cant be tanned and must be white in color because the people who live in america are white ? its called population displacements. the abomination of desolation.


 
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Now i am white and open minded and making it to heaven is more important to me than racial pride. along my journeys in this thing we call the truth of the kingdom i have come to realize that we have been taught a pack of lies. in fact here is prophesy alluding to those who will find out about the pack of lies when it is too late >>> jeremiah 16 vs 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there isno profit

now the question is do you want to be that guy making that statement when it is too late ?

ok here are things i have found out. a huge chunk of israel will be in the land of the north ( USA ) in the last days from which the lord will redeem them. zechariah 2 vs 7
Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest with the daughter of Babylon


and in the daughter of babylon ( usa ) they would all be locked up in jails isaiah 42 vs 22But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore.

they would be oppressed. isaiah 49 vs 26 And I will feed them that oppress thee with their own flesh; and they shall be drunken with their own blood, as with sweet wine: and all flesh shall know that I the Lord am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
they would be despised ISAIAH 49 VS 7 Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee.

ZEPHANIAH 2 VS 1
Gather yourselves together, yea, gather together, O nation not desired
they would be afflicted and tossed like a tempest and not comforted ISAIAH 54 VS 11 O thou afflicted, tossed with tempest, and not comforted, behold, I will lay thy stones with fair colours, and lay thy foundations with sapphires.

and they would be discontinued from their heritage as jews meaning someone would steal their identity JEREMIAH 17 VS 4 And thou, even thyself, shalt discontinue from thine heritage that I gave thee; and I will cause thee to serve thine enemies in the land which thou knowest not: for ye have kindled a fire in mine anger, which shall burn for ever.

and then it goes ahead to describe what one of their kings looks like SONG OF SOLOMON 1 VS 6 Look not upon me, because I am black, because the sun hath looked upon me:

and there you have it. have we been sold a lemon as to who the real jews are ? yeah i see some of your response. well the people in the middle east do not look black so the jews cant be black. but that is a stupid argument. its like someone saying the native indians cant be tanned and must be white in color because the people who live in america are white ? its called population displacements. the abomination of desolation.


I don't believe that the Christian should even concern himself with this debate. I believe that this debate is much like the Trayvon debate. I don't see any good coming from this. It seems to me that it will only present an occasion to cast prejidice and racial bias. Let the worldly protest.

Those who enter into these debates, will gain nothing other than to despise his neighbor. lol

Our work should concern the things of God and the Salvation of men and women by presenting the hope that is in us,, Christ Jesus our Savior!

These are things we should think on!

Not which one is actually Jewish. Does God have racial divides in heaven or in the New earth? No

We shall all be Brothers and Sisters to each other. All to be called,, the Sons and Daughters of God!
 
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I don't believe that the Christian should even concern himself with this debate. I believe that this debate is much like the Trayvon debate. I don't see any good coming from this. It seems to me that it will only present an occasion to cast prejidice and racial bias. Let the worldly protest.

Those who enter into these debates, will gain nothing other than to despise his neighbor. lol

Our work should concern the things of God and the Salvation of men and women by presenting the hope that is in us,, Christ Jesus our Savior!

These are things we should think on!

Not which one is actually Jewish. Does God have racial divides in heaven or in the New earth? No

We shall all be Brothers and Sisters to each other. All to be called,, the Sons and Daughters of God!
very poignant point Michael50
 
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I believe that the people of India are the close descriptions of the people that are in the Bible since they has just recently became modernized. All the people in that region were various mid complexion.

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Anyone who has been detached from the brainwashing techniques of the illuminati knows the real jews come from the 12 palents which orbit a remote star called "Juzion" about 20000000049 light years away. Dont go looking for this though, as NASA etc have removed all records and evidence for it.
 
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I believe that the people of India are the close descriptions of the people that are in the Bible since they has just recently became modernized. All the people in that region were various mid complexion.

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i strongly doubt they are indians

lamentations 4 vs 8 Their visage is blacker than a coal;

lamentations 5 vs 10 Our skin was black like an ovenbecause of the terriblefamine

job 30 vs 30
My skin is black upon me

daniel 7 vs 9
and the hair of his head like the pure wool <<< indians dont have wooly hair. only so called black people:

and indians dont believe in christ. they are muslims or hindu. indians are gentiles. heathens
 
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"I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing."

Clearly by this verse Jesus is saying all christians are made of wood. So if I have enough christians I can build a boat and sail the high seas.
Also if shaved in such a manner as to be thin we can make paper hats out of wooden christians.

See what I did there? I took bible verses literally and made my fancy little paper hat out of wooden christans.
You can make the bible say whatever you want it to say.

Or you could read it accurately.....tha'd be just awesome.

 
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and indians are not locked away in jails in america for offenses everyone else gets a slap on the wrist for. these are prophesies. who are the majority in american jails ? biblical prophesy >>>> isaiah 42 vs 22 But this is a people robbed and spoiled; they are all of them snared in holes, and they are hid in prison houses: they are for a prey, and none delivereth; for a spoil, and none saith, Restore
 
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i strongly doubt they are indians

lamentations 4 vs 8 Their visage is blacker than a coal;

lamentations 5 vs 10 Our skin was black like an ovenbecause of the terriblefamine

job 30 vs 30
My skin is black upon me

daniel 7 vs 9
and the hair of his head like the pure wool <<< indians dont have wooly hair. only so called black people:

and indians dont believe in christ. they are muslims or hindu. indians are gentiles. heathens
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I don't consider this to be the texture like wool, unless if they're mixed race.

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I don't consider this to be the texture like wool, unless if they're mixed race.

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well those are negros. israel was scattered to the four corners of the earth. there are negros in india as well as europe as well as west africa as well as north and south america. its prophesy. they would be scattered to the four corners of the earth. so your initially post still makes no sense. they are not indian. in india these black skinned israelites are not part of society. they are ostracized as low class. they are not indian. they just live there. the real indians are gentiles
 

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From what Nation chosen by Yahweh comes our faith?
Salvation is from the Jews.

Yahweh will provide, Himself, a Lamb for the offering.

A Jew is not one that is born outwardly.

Yeshua said to His flock that He had another flock which He was going to bring together with His flock.

If it is not the faith of Abraham than what is it the followers of Messiah attain?

It was at Antioch where people first coined the word, Christian, according to Greek translation, however were the people being taught by disciples of Yeshua, His name most likely was yet Yeshua.

Why did the pagan nations decide to call Yeshua by the second hand tranliteration from the Greek, which had in turn been translitwerated to Greek from the Hebrew name ידוע? It is an interesting turn of events.

Salvation, according to Yeshua, was from the Jews. Who else could it have been from? The Greeks? The Latins? The newly evolved theological structures of converts? Scholars of all time?

The questioning of the origin of the Faith of Abraham is a question in itself.
 
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From what Nation chosen by Yahweh comes our faith?
Salvation is from the Jews.

Yahweh will provide, Himself, a Lamb for the offering.

A Jew is not one that is born outwardly.

Yeshua said to His flock that He had another flock which He was going to bring together with His flock.

If it is not the faith of Abraham than what is it the followers of Messiah attain?

It was at Antioch where people first coined the word, Christian, according to Greek translation, however were the people being taught by disciples of Yeshua, His name most likely was yet Yeshua.

Why did the pagan nations decide to call Yeshua by the second hand tranliteration from the Greek, which had in turn been translitwerated to Greek from the Hebrew name ידוע? It is an interesting turn of events.

Salvation, according to Yeshua, was from the Jews. Who else could it have been from? The Greeks? The Latins? The newly evolved theological structures of converts? Scholars of all time?

The questioning of the origin of the Faith of Abraham is a question in itself.
make no mistake there will be people of gentile nations who will be joined with israel in the kingdom of heaven. this is not about exclusivity. this is about the truth. now i dont know about you but i want to worship the lord in truth not in lies. i want to know who israel is and what they look like today, i want to know what christ looked like when he walked the earth. i am sick and tired of demonic lies. these lies could lead some people to eternal damnation. dont know about you sire but i am not giving up my place in the kingdom for a pack of lies. thats why scripture says 'study to show yourself approved'. because if you study hard enough you will find the truth like i have. and then when you find the truth its up to you to accept it or reject it.
 

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Make NO mistake, nothing I posted is not derived from the Word, no exclusivity except no one will enter the Kingdom unless by the name of Yeshua.....................
 

notuptome

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I'm not concerned with skin color. I look at the blood Christ shed for me and it is like mine red. God looks at the blood shed on Calvary and is satisfied. Nothing else matters. Spirit has no color. Our God is righteous and at the mere brightness of His countenance heaven and earth shall flee away.

For the cause of Christ
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Make NO mistake, nothing I posted is not derived from the Word, no exclusivity except no one will enter the Kingdom unless by the name of Yeshua.....................
isaiah 14 vs 1 For the LORD will have mercy on Jacob, and will yet choose Israel, and set them in their own land: and the strangers shall be joined with them, and they shall cleave to the house of Jacob. <<< the lord will have mercy on them again after all they have been through and will choose them and bring them back to the land. and the strangers ( will be the those of the gentile nations who worship God )
 
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Make NO mistake, nothing I posted is not derived from the Word, no exclusivity except no one will enter the Kingdom unless by the name of Yeshua.....................
ALL israel will be saved. they would have been through enough punishment by the second coming of christ

ROMANS 11 VS 26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: