Healing without asking or Prayer?

Graybeard · Dec 20, 2009

Debbie, this is a mystery (to me at least) why healing does not take place sometimes, many people will have a lot of different opinions as to why. I think with depression in most cases is perhaps we don't let God be God and we maybe try to hard, I know as depression is what has been a trait in all my family. My understanding is that just maybe it is our lifestyle, letting small things get to us, I think as well that believing God can do it and having faith that God can do it are two separate things, after all, the Word says that even the Devil believes and trembles.

But what can happen is we lose faith because we don't appear to see anything changing and bring to naught what we have prayed for. The thing is too...we are to continually speak the things that are not as though they were to manifest in the flesh what is in the Spirit.
and most importantly I would say, is to first seek the Kingdom of God before worrying about stuff and all these things will follow in due time. It is a daily struggle..we have to fight the good fight of Faith daily, it's hard I know, I struggle.
If you have not been filled with the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues then I urge you to have a desire for it because when we have no words to say in prayer, our spirit testifies with the Holy Spirit who knows what our needs are even if we don't, and He gives utterance what to pray for.
God Bless

Graybeard · Dec 20, 2009

giantone said:

I believe that too

charisenexcelcis said:

well one could say it is a desire. not sure, but having faith is not really automatically desiring. when I heard the words spoken out loud "arthritis"... I had a choice:
1) to either agree and thereby confirm it or
2) to reject it by faith
perhaps rejecting it by faith in that moment was the key, you see it was also rejected without thought, maybe the faith that was exercised at that point was agreed by the heart and thereby confirmed and manifested...just a thought

greatkraw · Dec 20, 2009

Graybeard said:

Debbie, this is a mystery (to me at least) why healing does not take place sometimes, many people will have a lot of different opinions as to why. I think with depression in most cases is perhaps we don't let God be God and we maybe try to hard, I know as depression is what has been a trait in all my family. My understanding is that just maybe it is our lifestyle, letting small things get to us, I think as well that believing God can do it and having faith that God can do it are two separate things, after all, the Word says that even the Devil believes and trembles.

But what can happen is we lose faith because we don't appear to see anything changing and bring to naught what we have prayed for. The thing is too...we are to continually speak the things that are not as though they were to manifest in the flesh what is in the Spirit.
and most importantly I would say, is to first seek the Kingdom of God before worrying about stuff and all these things will follow in due time. It is a daily struggle..we have to fight the good fight of Faith daily, it's hard I know, I struggle.
If you have not been filled with the Holy Spirit and speak in tongues then I urge you to have a desire for it because when we have no words to say in prayer, our spirit testifies with the Holy Spirit who knows what our needs are even if we don't, and He gives utterance what to pray for.
God Bless

yes one should focus on Christ, not the fact that one is single and not the conviction that one is depressed - both are types of self centredness

Maddog · Dec 20, 2009

I don't think it matters how or why it was healed. The way I see it, all healing is of God, whether this is the miraculous sort, or through doctors and medicine.

Note how St Paul lists gifts of healing separately from the working of miracles but explains that all are given by God (1 Corinthians 12:7-11).

giantone · Dec 20, 2009

sunshine_debbie said:

God's will for you is to be healed. You've tried everything, maybe you should examine what you can agree with concerning your healing what I mean is start with something that you are certain of even if it is small or even if it takes time, I will pray for you but you should find Godly people who have faith that agrees with your level of faith to pray over you and lay hands on you, anoint you with oil. The prayers of Godly children are powerful, work on being thankful and don't condemn yourself God loves you.

Fasting works for depression but research it first and know what the Bible says why you fast and only do a small one first. I take flax seed oil for depression as well.

I used to be so destroyed on the inside even as a Christian it was like a tornado and a storm raging for a year or more, I went through the motions went to church did the Christian things because I knew I would come out, God was with me the whole way even though I didn't feel it I still knew it. It is hard to keep on keeping on but that is the only option. Going to church where the Spirit of God is manifested brings great conviction and It is hard to be there but I also knew it would burn off the bad things trying to get a hold on me. I would think BURN BABY BURN!!! And it was very uncomfortable. We Christians are not to be led by feelings or the way things appear but by faith. I find that I'm a mystery to the devil because many times I react the opposite of what a normal person would react to his schemes. It's likely I will always have some weaknesses but if I didn't wouldn't need God. The Devil doesn't attack me nearly as much as he used to because when I decide to fight back I show him no mercy. (maybe you should learn spiritual warfare.)

You don't know how close this came to be deleeted, my cat hit the keyboard.

cookie39 · Dec 20, 2009

I can not think of a time when God healed a person without them seeking it or asking for it, other than for the lame man at the gate beatiful who was asking alms of those who enter, and Peter said to him, he did not have alms but that I do have I will give unto you, and he healed him, and the man walked and praised God through-out the temple.
I know there is power in our words; for the Bible teaches us that, ther is power in the tongue; we are either going to speak life or death. and that we are going to be held accoutable for every Idol word we speak. that; that a man speaketh so shall he be.

I to speak to by body; and I tell the devil to take his hands off of me. from time to time I feel pain in my arms or legs. and first thing I hear from with-in aurtheritist, I say devil you a lie! I don't have autheritist, I don't reveive that; get your hands off me in the name of Jesus. and the pain goes away instantly. I don't care where the pain may come I tell the devil to go. we must understand that all sickness is from the devil, rather it be of God's will or the straight out attack of the devil. yes God allows somethings and he has his reasons and it always surve his purpose for us.

cookie39 · Dec 20, 2009

sunshine_debbie said:

for the person that said they she have not been healed of depression; it is because you don't receive God's word as truth; or you have not learned it to believe it. ( no offense) I have lived depressions; with all the works. I was given the Word of God by the Holy Spirit; and to be truthfully honest; I didn't understand a lick of the bible at that time but everything God gave me I believed it and I lived it. if God say thayt I am to take off the "spirit" of heavviness and put on a garment of praise. I rebuked that devil and I praised God. every time he tried to come to me I praised God, I tell that spirit that I am not depressed; I am a child of God and he has no place here in my mind or my life. resist the devil and he will flee from you. it's up to us to know who we are and who's we are. and no devil can stand in the presents of God when you are praising the Lord. and even when the mouth stop the heart keep on going. if you talk to God more then you talk to the devil, who give you evil thoughts of unbelief, to have you tell yourself you feel a certain way, and you live that. maybe if you listen to God that way and do what God say instead of the enemy. you will receive your healing. I am saying this out of experiance--- and to say that God is doing something because most depressed people don't even want to talk to other people, let alone do they want to live. i had no suicide attempts because all I ever heard was if a person go out that way they will go to hell. that was the only thing that stopped me. because if there was a hell and it was like they say it is I did not want to go. so I asked if there is a God caan you please help me.and the only way I was looking for him to help me is to take my life so i wont go to hell. I didn't know about a healing to even ask for it. but God knew my ignorants and he knew what I needed so he gave me His word and only what I needed at that time to be healed and set free. healed of the hurts and freed from the bondage and hold of satan. it is thirteen years later and that devil still try to come. and now the Holy Spirit tells me loud and clear, a spirit of depression, I do as he taught me. sometimes I have to force myself to eat; because when I am sad I can not eat and this will go on for days. but I tell the devil NO! and I will make myself eat no matter how bad I feel. and on the first day. the rest gets easy as I tell the devil to go and I will not give in to depression. please give the Lord a try; a real try;

may the peace of God reign in your heart; Keep your mind stayed on the Lord and he will keep you in "Perfect peace" for all the blessings of God is yea and amen, give God the praise. If you need help with this I am so open and available to show you what God said about this and how to fight the devil who you have more power than... and even have power over them... they are subject to us by the authority of Christ Jesus that has been giving to us. we are not to be subject to them.

charisenexcelcis · Dec 21, 2009

Graybeard said:

I believe that too

well one could say it is a desire. not sure, but having faith is not really automatically desiring. when I heard the words spoken out loud "arthritis"... I had a choice:
1) to either agree and thereby confirm it or
2) to reject it by faith
perhaps rejecting it by faith in that moment was the key, you see it was also rejected without thought, maybe the faith that was exercised at that point was agreed by the heart and thereby confirmed and manifested...just a thought

In any case, I am glad you were healed.

machew · Dec 21, 2009

I see people healed by God on pretty much a weekly basis, some from prayer, and a lot of the time just during the worship set on Sunday without prayer. God steal heals and will always heal sickness and physical afflictions. I believe that you declared what God was saying about your finger, and because He was saying the same thing He healed it.

greatkraw · Dec 21, 2009

giantone said:

God's will for you is to be healed. You've tried everything, maybe you should examine what you can agree with concerning your healing what I mean is start with something that you are certain of even if it is small or even if it takes time, I will pray for you but you should find Godly people who have faith that agrees with your level of faith to pray over you and lay hands on you, anoint you with oil. The prayers of Godly children are powerful, work on being thankful and don't condemn yourself God loves you.

Fasting works for depression but research it first and know what the Bible says why you fast and only do a small one first. I take flax seed oil for depression as well.

I used to be so destroyed on the inside even as a Christian it was like a tornado and a storm raging for a year or more, I went through the motions went to church did the Christian things because I knew I would come out, God was with me the whole way even though I didn't feel it I still knew it. It is hard to keep on keeping on but that is the only option. Going to church where the Spirit of God is manifested brings great conviction and It is hard to be there but I also knew it would burn off the bad things trying to get a hold on me. I would think BURN BABY BURN!!! And it was very uncomfortable. We Christians are not to be led by feelings or the way things appear but by faith. I find that I'm a mystery to the devil because many times I react the opposite of what a normal person would react to his schemes. It's likely I will always have some weaknesses but if I didn't wouldn't need God. The Devil doesn't attack me nearly as much as he used to because when I decide to fight back I show him no mercy. (maybe you should learn spiritual warfare.)

You don't know how close this came to be deleeted, my cat hit the keyboard.

great stuff

cat was just helping , mine does

Aliciaforjesus · Dec 21, 2009

Graybeard said:

I have just had an experience that I can'y explain as to why?
From time to time I get very painful in my left index finger joint, this has been occurring for a few years now. I have always suspected it to be early stages of arthritis.
I was sitting by my computer browsing Christian Chat when my wife asked me to make some tea (not in a demanding way for those who may think

) so I made some tea, brought it to her and sat down, my finger was throbbing so I casually told her that my finger joint was very painful throughout the day and she replied...."arthritis?"
without a thought I answered "NO!, symptoms of it.....I won't except it is arthritis" and intermediately the pain just left, I stared at the finger, grabbed it with my other hand and bent it sideways..GONE..no pain! Praise God!

I have no doubt that The Lord healed it there and then but my question is:
Is there any healings/miracles in the Bible that happened without anyone asking or any prayer specifically for that ailment/sickness?
Do you think that the moment I audibly did not accept it that faith was manifested?
In other words..WHAT JUST HAPPENED?

Please give opinions but scripture as always are good.

God is good!

He has healed me many times, without me asking!

Two times I was dead, and He brought me back to life.

machew · Dec 21, 2009

God is good! He is worthy to be Praised!

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