Hebrews 6:4-6 - not at it seems...

[PeterJens]

Its all they have, Modern day pharisee-ism at its best.

its why many in the world see christianity as a hate group, holier than thou self righteous group. and not th eloving group God sent the church out to be who drew people by being christ like.

Somehow this loving, caring reaching out group have not shown themselves among those
who claim to have the superior true insight into Gods heart.

Rather condemning the church, constant referrals to the evils of other believers, other
approaches to scripture, simple interpretations of what scripture says, taking Jesus at
His word is all criticised.

And if you stand for the word as written, you will be the most evil, vilified person alive,
like you are a murderer who should be shot on sight. They know how to paint themselves
innocent while dishing out the dirt, lol. But then it is a joke, but I am sure one day it will
be much more than this joke, but deadly serious, sadly.

 

[stonesoffire]

Great minds think alike! Proven here.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Sorry, I don't listen much to people whose only ability is to psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty.

This is a skill some possess. Others take truthful observations of facts as insults
and slander if it makes their position look bad.

Did you follow the conversation, PeterJens?

Because Stephen63 laid that accusation at my feet after he did a google search on something mailmandan posted and I asked him if he google searched statements made by those with whom he agreed. No answer to that question yet.

Just an accusation that I "psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".


So who has this "skill" you refer to, Peter?

Is Stephen63 taking my "truthful observation" as an insult and slander?


Check out these posts if you're interested in who said what to whom:


Stephen63 - #1297

reneweddaybyday - #1298

Stephen63 - #1299

Chris1975 - #1300

reneweddaybyday - #1301

Stephen63 - #1302

reneweddaybyday - #1302

Stephen63 - #1305

 

[Stephen63]

Did you follow the conversation, PeterJens?

Because Stephen63 laid that accusation at my feet after he did a google search on something mailmandan posted and I asked him if he google searched statements made by those with whom he agreed. No answer to that question yet.

Just an accusation that I "psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".


So who has this "skill" you refer to, Peter?

Is Stephen63 taking my "truthful observation" as an insult and slander?


Check out these posts if you're interested in who said what to whom:


Stephen63 - #1297

reneweddaybyday - #1298

Stephen63 - #1299

Chris1975 - #1300

reneweddaybyday - #1301

Stephen63 - #1302

reneweddaybyday - #1302

Stephen63 - #1305

It's always been my experience that when a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

It's always been my experience that when a rock is thrown into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one that got hit.

You made the comment about me, Stephen63.

And PeterJens then indicated that "some" possess the skill you refer to.

I would be interested in knowing if PeterJens believes that I "psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".

Perhaps after reading the conversation, he will come away with the opinion that you "psychologically" manipulated him in your attempt to make me look guilty.

BTW ... you have yet to answer the question ...

 

[oldethennew]

not to be insulting, but have you ever 'scolded someone and they take it as a compliment?"
this is simply called, 'created-reality'.

'high-ho, high-ho, it's OFF to work we go'...

we are at the point, that the more someone mis-understands us, the more we need
to love them and hold them close...

 

[Stephen63]

You made the comment about me, Stephen63.

And PeterJens then indicated that "some" possess the skill you refer to.

I would be interested in knowing if PeterJens believes that I "psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".

Perhaps after reading the conversation, he will come away with the opinion that you "psychologically" manipulated him in your attempt to make me look guilty.

BTW ... you have yet to answer the question ...

You didn't give me a question

 

[reneweddaybyday]

You didn't give me a question

Asked yesterday at Post #1301:

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Stephen63, do you perform your google searches to find duplications in Chris1975 posts? I've seen duplications in posts submitted by Chris1975 in various threads without reading into it. I've seen you repeat what you've posted and don't scurry around trying to point fingers at you for repeating what you've posted.

Let the monitors of the forum do their job. They are more than capable of notifying the members if/when they believe there is an issue.

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[Stephen63]

Asked yesterday at Post #1301:

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Stephen63, do you perform your google searches to find duplications in Chris1975 posts? I've seen duplications in posts submitted by Chris1975 in various threads without reading into it. I've seen you repeat what you've posted and don't scurry around trying to point fingers at you for repeating what you've posted.

Let the monitors of the forum do their job. They are more than capable of notifying the members if/when they believe there is an issue.

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I have not checked everyone else's, including you, because I only check when I see a pattern.

When someone has did this for over six years straight at three different sites, well, that's a pattern. What else can you say?

If I find others, I will post them.

 

[Grace777x70]

I love to post the gospel of the grace of God in Christ and how the Holy Spirit transforms us as we behold Christ. I will be posting this truth until the Lord has me do something else. I love every opportunity to post about the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of the Father and our Lord for us.

Someone pointing out that we post the same things when a particular subject comes up will never deter us from boldly proclaiming Christ and all that He has done for us!

We are saved by the life of the Lord Jesus Christ which is in us in our new creation. We are now learning how to walk by the spirit - which is our spirit in union with Christ by the Holy Spirit ( whom Jesus said would be in us forever - John 14:16 ).

Romans 5:10-11 (NASB)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] For if while we were enemies we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, much more, having been reconciled, we shall be saved by His life.

[SUP]11 [/SUP] And not only this, but we also exult in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received the reconciliation.

Living by the flesh does not stop making us a new creation in Christ. It makes us deceived by sin and distorts our view of the Lord's love and grace towards God Himself, others and ourselves.

I have found the very same thing happening in my life. The more I see Christ and what He has done - and the more I agree with His work - the more He becomes manifested in my life and the things of the flesh just have fallen off like dead leaves on a branch.

Transformation is really the emerging new man that is in Christ being manifested in our bodies while we are here on this earth.

This transformation of what already is in us in Christ in our new creation ( It is not called a "new evolution" ) can be seen by man as our minds get renewed to the truth of Christ's work for us. Rom. 12:2

We are simply "being" who we already are when we "put on Christ".

The new man in Christ is like the invisible man - when he put clothes on, people could then see him. We put on Christ and people see the new man in Christ manifested and God gets glorified.

This all happens by grace through faith in what Christ has done and we participate in it with Him for it is God who is at work in us both to will and to do of His good pleasure. He will be faithful to us. Phil. 2:13

As we learn to walk by the spirit instead of the flesh - then we experience God's kind of life in our lives.

 

[Stephen63]

People who are deceived continually claim they're walking in the Spirit. This can be found in nearly every case.

If Satan can change himself into an angel of light, how hard would it be for him to imitate the Holy Spirit?

Those guys may be correct that they're walking in the spirit, but they don't know which one.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

What else can you say?

You can refute the point made in what has been posted.

If, as you say in your post #1331, the ones who submit duplicate posts in numerous threads, are not "walking in the Spirit", correct the error in the posts submitted.

Of course, that would require an investment in time as you study Scripture to find out what the Bible has to say about each point, while your google searches take only seconds. But what better use of time is there? Taking time to study Scripture is truly a worthwhile endeavor.

 

[PeterJens]

You made the comment about me, Stephen63.

And PeterJens then indicated that "some" possess the skill you refer to.

I would be interested in knowing if PeterJens believes that I "psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".

Perhaps after reading the conversation, he will come away with the opinion that you "psychologically" manipulated him in your attempt to make me look guilty.

BTW ... you have yet to answer the question ...

To be honest I do not know the issue you are dealing with in detail, but it is true people
can project guilt where there is none.

I do not know the issue in question, but we always have to be careful we are not inventing
issues that are not there.

Some individuals I simply switch off from because they invent some obscure idea to create
an emotional atmosphere which I just refuse to acknowledge, because it is irrelevant.

I for one have only so much time I can dedicate to such issues, which is sometimes not worth
considering lol

 

[Stephen63]

I hear ya PJ, & I'm not spending any more time on this one. rdbd has been put on ignore.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

To be
honest I do not know the issue you are dealing with in detail, but it is true
people can project guilt where there is none.

The issue I am dealing with is that in Stephen63 submitted a post (#1305) which indicated that my "only ability is to psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".

I took your post #1320 as agreement with Stephen63 and affirmation of his accusation.

And the fact that you waffle and will not state one way or the other leads me to believe my understanding is not in error.

Thank you, PeterJens.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

I hear ya PJ, & I'm not spending any more time on this one. rdbd has been put on ignore.

Thank You, Father.

 

[PeterJens]

The issue I am dealing with is that in Stephen63 submitted a post (#1305) which indicated that my "only ability is to psychologically manipulate people & make them look guilty".

I took your post #1320 as agreement with Stephen63 and affirmation of his accusation.

And the fact that you waffle and will not state one way or the other leads me to believe my understanding is not in error.

Thank you, PeterJens.

Not sure what you are trying to prove. There are a lot of people who maybe invest
too much hope in the words they share, because if no one actually takes a note of it
it is just padding. God bless you my friend, may you walk well in the Lord.

 

[reneweddaybyday]

Not sure what you are trying to prove.

Just asked if you agree with Stephen63.

I figured when you replied affirmatively to Stephen63, you were not aware that his accusation was directed at me (as opposed to a general statement concerning all he does not agree with). That is why I explained he accused me directly.

There are a lot of people who maybe invest
too much hope in the words they share, because if no one actually takes a note of it
it is just padding.

I think the anonymity of the internet is part of the reason why people are so careless with their words. If we were all physically sitting in a room together, I doubt Stephen63 would have said those hateful words.

Kind of like the way some people drive their cars. Some drivers behave so irrationally and sometimes I think if we were pedestrians we wouldn't be so rude (cutting people off; flipping the bird; etc., etc.).

God bless you my friend, may you walk well in the Lord.

Thanks. You too. No better walk than in Him.

 

[valiant]

People who are deceived continually claim they're walking in the Spirit. This can be found in nearly every case.

If Satan can change himself into an angel of light, how hard would it be for him to imitate the Holy Spirit?

Those guys may be correct that they're walking in the spirit, but they don't know which one.

pot calling the kettle black

 

[Stephen63]

It's been my experience that people who talk hateful are hateful people. The same with accusations.

No different than others trolling CC.