Holy Spirit - Conviction question

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LookinToChat

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Okay good job.... Here is round 2

Now that we've established the importance of the Holy Spirit, according to popular belief among pretrib followers the reason Satan is being restrained is the HS when the HS is removed "all hell breaks loose" but heres my Part 2. If the HS is needed for pointing out our sinfulness and he is removed according to this belief, then no one can be saved.......

This is another reason why the pretrib belief must be challenged.... The HS is an essential part of the Trinity and His role cannot be changed to fit the teaching. The HS has been convicting hearts for a looooong time.
 
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LookinToChat said:
Okay good job.... Here is round 2

Now that we've established the importance of the Holy Spirit, according to popular belief among pretrib followers the reason Satan is being restrained is the HS when the HS is removed "all hell breaks loose" but heres my Part 2. If the HS is needed for pointing out our sinfulness and he is removed according to this belief, then no one can be saved.......

This is another reason why the pretrib belief must be challenged.... The HS is an essential part of the Trinity and His role cannot be changed to fit the teaching. The HS has been convicting hearts for a looooong time.
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Of course pre-trib is nothing but falsehood and so is posttrib and midtrib. Mass rapture is a pipe dream that people will wait and wait. Truly truly i tell you, the end of the age will will come whilst they are still waiting.

Matt 24:37As it was in the days of Noah, so will it beat the coming of the Son of Man. 38For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark.

Eating and drinking and marrying and being given to marriage means everything will be normal. People flying and trumpets blowing is not part of normal. We are way way way past three quarters of the last 3.5 years as per Daniel's timeline. The signs that Jesus said are not physical visible signs but are spiritual ones that will need understanding.
 
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LookinToChat said:
Okay good job.... Here is round 2

Now that we've established the importance of the Holy Spirit, according to popular belief among pretrib followers the reason Satan is being restrained is the HS when the HS is removed "all hell breaks loose" but heres my Part 2. If the HS is needed for pointing out our sinfulness and he is removed according to this belief, then no one can be saved.......

This is another reason why the pretrib belief must be challenged.... The HS is an essential part of the Trinity and His role cannot be changed to fit the teaching. The HS has been convicting hearts for a looooong time.
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... the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed ...

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At the time of the pretrib rapture the indwelt Holy Spirit is taken out of the way of that wicked being revealed.
It doesn't say that the Holy Spirit will be taken out of the way of salvation for the unsaved people.
 
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Noose

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JohnRH said:
... the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed ...

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At the time of the pretrib rapture the indwelt Holy Spirit is taken out of the way of that wicked being revealed.
It doesn't say that the Holy Spirit will be taken out of the way of salvation for the unsaved people.
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2 Thess 2:6And now you know what is holding him back, so that he may be revealed at the proper time. 7For the secret power of lawlessness is already at work; but the one who now holds it back will continue to do so till he is taken out of the way.

Concerning the above verse, you need to know the following:
1. Yes it was the Holy spirit holding the antichrist back but the reason is more important. The antichrist was held back so that the gospel of the kingdom was preached to all nations as a witness by the apostles and the disciples (two witnesses)

2. After 3.5 years of witnessing by the Disciples and Apostles, the antichrist was released to pursue them and kill them which he did. Therefore the antichrist took charge of the world at that time (rebellion/ abomination that causes desolate)

3. The antichrist reigns for 3.5 years (figurative) which started around 3.5 AD and still going on now.
 
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joefizz said:
Yeah you first have to think on "do you care" what happens concerning a lot of aspects because a person can preach to someone all day long so to speak but if the individual "doesn't care" about what is being preached then they'll "stay the same".
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True indeed, like I mentioned it starts with the heart, and bible says so, written on the hearts.
 
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