How do most Christians feel about leviticus 19:28?

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marcus21

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ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead,nor print any marks on you : I am the LORD.
 
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what is this verse in it's context for the audience written in about? probably the first question to ask
 
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Richie_2uk

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I presume that verse is talking about Tattoos? Well I had one or two some years ago. the ones I got are not in distasteful, or of offending attitude or blasphemous. But As I walk the journey with God, I am thinking That I shouldn't of had them. Though I am forgiven for having them, as I asked God for forgiveness. If I could back to the time I had these tattoos, with what I know now, I would certainly said no straight away. But I got them now, and again I thank God for his forgiveness.
 

Hizikyah

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Leviticus 19:28, "You shall not cut your bodies for the dead, nor put tattoo marks upon yourselves. I am Yahweh."

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The Pharisess took the Law, "You shall not vow falsely in the Name of Yahweh," and said, well if we vow falsely by something else its ok to lie!

Yahweh says no Tats, NO TATS, and no pharisee weaseling out of it!;)
 
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yet Jesus returns with a name written on him - i don't really care if you get a tattoo - come to your own conclusion
 

Elizabeth619

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Why do we have two active threads about this?
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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yet Jesus returns with a name written on him - i don't really care if you get a tattoo - come to your own conclusion
Who wrote the name on Jesus?

If our Heavenly Father wants to write something on those He owns, I don't think any Christian would have a problem. I think the opposition to tattoos comes from some claiming to be owned by our Heavenly Father, and yet the same being prepared for someone else to write upon them.
 
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ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead,nor print any marks on you : I am the LORD.
God doesn't focus on the things that we do to our flesh, but He focus on our soul.

1 Samuel 16:7But the Lord said to Samuel, “Do not consider his appearance or his height, for I have rejected him. The Lord does not look at the things people look at. People look at the outward appearance, but the Lord looks at the heart.”

2 Corinthians 4:16
Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day.

Matthew 23:27
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean.

2 Corinthians 4:18
So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

John 6:63
The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.
 
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LT

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The key phrase is "for the dead", not just markings in general.
Tattoos are not prohibited, just one that are in memory of the dead. (ex. R.I.P. Steve Lane 6/4/08, {or skulls and such})

context context context.

even if they were prohibited, this is not reaffirmed in the NT, therefore it is not for the Church.
Don't give me that "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit" argument. In context it is speaking of sexual immorality only, and has no application to tattoos.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Don't give me that "your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit" argument. In context it is speaking of sexual immorality only, and has no application to tattoos.
Would you be upset if a visitor to your house repainted parts of it, or if someone borrowing your car removed its roof, without your permission?

The situation has to do with ownership. If your body belongs to you, you are free to do with it as you please. If it belongs to God, why would you alter it in a way that He has not proscribed, and in a way which He spoke against in a previous era?
 
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LT

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Would you be upset if a visitor to your house repainted parts of it, or if someone borrowing your car removed its roof, without your permission?

The situation has to do with ownership. If your body belongs to you, you are free to do with it as you please. If it belongs to God, why would you alter it in a way that He has not proscribed, and in a way which He spoke against in a previous era?
Very weak argument. There is freedom in Christ, and if a person can share the Gospel with a tattoo, then how can it be sin upon principle?

If you were to say that it is a waste of time/money, then I would agree. I think this is the only Biblical grounds against tattoos. *poor stewardship
 
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LT

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Also, why does everyone take 1 Corinthians 6:19 so literally, when it is obviously talking about committing sin, not about being unhealthy like smoking, drinking, over-eating, or getting tattoos. Sure there are places in the Bible that speak in regard to those actions, but not in that verse.
Just like Leviticus 19:28 is talking about controlling your grief, and to harm yourself just because a loved one has passed away, not about tattoos or make-up.
 
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Ye shall not take tattoos not even bible verse tattoos
Thats wat i think
 
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Where is Jesus name written ?
revelation 19
11 And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.


12 His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.


13 And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.


14 And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.


15 And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.


16 And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
 

p_rehbein

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While I do not have any tattoos, nor want any, nor will ever willingly get a tattoo, this verse is not referring to tattoos in my opinion.......simply isn't. Rather it is referring to "self mutilation" out of sorrow and/or honor for a loved one that has died.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Also, why does everyone take 1 Corinthians 6:19 so literally, when it is obviously talking about committing sin, not about being unhealthy like smoking, drinking, over-eating, or getting tattoos.
Because the truth can be generally applied further. In the text, we are taught that our bodies are a temple of the Holy Ghost, and are not our own, because we were bought with a price.

People aren't necessarily saying that tattoos are a sin, and I don't believe smoking and drinking (in moderation) are either (I think gluttony is specifically prohibited). This said, these are not usually ways you would honour God's temple. Why then would you do them, or recommend them, unless you believe that your body doesn't belong to God?
 

p_rehbein

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Would you be upset if a visitor to your house repainted parts of it, or if someone borrowing your car removed its roof, without your permission?

The situation has to do with ownership. If your body belongs to you, you are free to do with it as you please. If it belongs to God, why would you alter it in a way that He has not proscribed, and in a way which He spoke against in a previous era?
If you read the entire chapter, you will also see that they are instructed to not cut their hair or beards.........do those here who speak against tattoos cut their hair? Shave their armpits, legs, or trim their beards? Uh, well, why?

:) just saying..........
 

p_rehbein

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Hebrews 10:16) This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them;


aarrrggghhhh!

GOT TATTOOED MY MIND!

Thank you Father...........great tattoo! :)

 

Elizabeth619

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The Levitical laws involving appearance is so the Jews would be set apart from the pagans. Man would cut their hair in a certain form in honor of their gods. They would tattoo their self etc. Ancient egyptian men would shave all their hair off and have fake brained beards(like King Tut's mask) which was considered a divine symbol of the gods.
The laws in leviticus were so the children of God could be distingished and not be mistaken for pagans.

The egyptian women were known for wearing heavy makeup, and kept their hair short. and some would braid theirs. Both men and women would also wear jewels.
This is probably one reason why the scriptures tell women not to brain their hair or adorn ourselves with gold. Vanity was common in paganism.
 
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Bryancampbell

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I also believe one of the reasons God forbade this practices back then because God's people were not only suppose to be a holy nation, but also not to conform to the nature of their neighbor's practices. So I think it's still a problem according to how one sees it. I believe trying to act like the world and being part of evil political ideas are very similar to this command. Would it be applied today as sin? Well even if it was against Levitical law which isn't a necessity for salvation....just remember it's origin. It's a pagan practice. So I think when one realizes this, to them it bothers them as sin, and he who doubt in his heart sins.

Also it effects your outreach if you get one as a Christian mostly. People would understand you made mistakes in your past and it isn't held accountable to those who repent. But for a Christian to get one to conform, is dangerous. Our bodies are living temples, it's best not to ruin what God made.

So for it to be sin, it really really depends, but the person isn't condemned for it if He is a repentant Christian.