The Jewish Bible, (Tanakh) doesnt end with Malachi. Their arrangement of the OT books centre around three main divisions that we call the Law, The Prophets and the Writings. According to Paul we are Jews spiritually because we have the faith of Abraham. We are not bound to follow every commandment given to Israel (There are 613 of them), nor are we obliged to keep the festivals but some do as they point to Jesus. This is a long and complex subject but if you accept Christ as lord and Saviour the Holy Spirit will guide you.
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The Church is one New Man in which is neither Jew nor Gentile...
Ephesians 2:14-15 KJVS
[14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us ; [15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Ephesians 2:14-15 KJVS
[14] For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us ; [15] Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Jesus made a way, by His life, with His truth. We have a choice in following Jesus or not. Some follow man and his traditions, while some are looking deeper into what Jesus says. So if i get told doing what Jesus tells me, is being jewish then so be it(Jesus is still king of the jews), and anybody else that chooses Jesus as King of kings And Lord of lords.
Why say it like it's a bad think to be Jewish?
Jesus was Jewish
Paul was Jewish
The majority of th disciples were Jewish
I'm Jewish and I accept Jesus as the Messiah, and I find Hannukah rather fun.
Jesus was Jewish
Paul was Jewish
The majority of th disciples were Jewish
I'm Jewish and I accept Jesus as the Messiah, and I find Hannukah rather fun.
I am a Christian and I am not Jewish. I am a child of God. I belong to the body of Christ being baptized and given the gift of holy Spirit - given to us from the Father through faith in Jesus Christ. . . . which began on the day of Pentecost. I believe the OT ended with the gospel of John - with Christ's resurrection/ascension and the availability of the new birth.
Hebrews 7:11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
Good question...
Hebrews 7:18-19
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
I suppose I share Oldhermits sentiments pretty much exactly.
Do you think on the Jewish forum they wonder how Christian they should be???
Good question...
Hebrews 7:18-19
[SUP]18 [/SUP]For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the law made nothing perfect, but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.
I suppose I share Oldhermits sentiments pretty much exactly.
Do you think on the Jewish forum they wonder how Christian they should be???
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This thread is not about converting to Judaism but acknowledging and showing that the practices of the Christian faith were found in Judaism.
A lot of you already know this, but for some they never heard of such a thing.
There are even those that believe that God is done with Israel, that the church replaces the temple and that antisemitism is God punishing the Jews. That Jesus and Christianity is a new thing a new religion that has nothing to do with the old testament.
I often heard this as I taught bible study or witnessed to people. about christ.
When I first got saved I was fascinated with the gospels, to read about my Lord was the best thing ever but I had trouble understanding some of the responses and events taking place. Using commentarys it was a little better but not quite there. As I thought I had a grasp on The Bible I read the rest of the N.T. only to become lost. When I prayed about it I asked the Lord to show Me what I'm missing I told him I'll open my bible up and that page is where I will start reading. Never failed every time I opened it up to the O.T. No matter how forward I placed my fingers lol. Talk about not getting it wow.
That was some years ago. By attending church regularly, attending 2 to 3 bible studies a week being involved with ministries and a whole lot of grace and guidance from God I consider myself dangerous at best with the word lol.
Which brings me to this thread and the purpose of it. I see a lot of fellow Christians being misled and frankly bullied by others in here as well as other places I've been. Some of the responses I have got to this thread shows there is a lack of knowledge. The christian roots run very deep in Judaism make no mistake about that
In fact Jesus never wavered from the customs and traditions that were of the day. Why?
God had purposed Israel as an example to all nations that he is the one true living God.
It is extremely important to know the O.T. As well as the new, you would be surprised at what you find.
More to come.
A lot of you already know this, but for some they never heard of such a thing.
There are even those that believe that God is done with Israel, that the church replaces the temple and that antisemitism is God punishing the Jews. That Jesus and Christianity is a new thing a new religion that has nothing to do with the old testament.
I often heard this as I taught bible study or witnessed to people. about christ.
When I first got saved I was fascinated with the gospels, to read about my Lord was the best thing ever but I had trouble understanding some of the responses and events taking place. Using commentarys it was a little better but not quite there. As I thought I had a grasp on The Bible I read the rest of the N.T. only to become lost. When I prayed about it I asked the Lord to show Me what I'm missing I told him I'll open my bible up and that page is where I will start reading. Never failed every time I opened it up to the O.T. No matter how forward I placed my fingers lol. Talk about not getting it wow.
That was some years ago. By attending church regularly, attending 2 to 3 bible studies a week being involved with ministries and a whole lot of grace and guidance from God I consider myself dangerous at best with the word lol.
Which brings me to this thread and the purpose of it. I see a lot of fellow Christians being misled and frankly bullied by others in here as well as other places I've been. Some of the responses I have got to this thread shows there is a lack of knowledge. The christian roots run very deep in Judaism make no mistake about that
In fact Jesus never wavered from the customs and traditions that were of the day. Why?
God had purposed Israel as an example to all nations that he is the one true living God.
It is extremely important to know the O.T. As well as the new, you would be surprised at what you find.
More to come.
The Jewish people are the original branches that God instructs us not to boast against. For if they do not continue in unbelief, they shall be re-grafted back in and there is great glory in that. Let us also heed when God says that if He did not spare the original branches, He may not spare us either. Let us continue in belief
As the Old Covenant is a shadow and type of the New Covenant to come, we as Christians should have a good understanding of the Old Covenant, not to abide by the letter of the law, but to understand how it applies spiritually in our lives. The 7 feasts for example had a prophetic application to Christ's ministry for both the 1st coming and His 2nd coming. The Ritual and Ceremonial Law have been written into our hearts and minds, but the Moral Law very much is in effect today. What God told His people before about what not to touch due to it being unclean now applies for us not to partake in what is spiritually unclean.
In essence, we are not called to live by the letter of the law, but we do have the Law and the Prophets as an admonition for the Church today to learn from and not repeat the same mistakes that the OT Israelites unfortunately fell under and were judged for their sin. God says there is nothing new under the sun and what has been shall be. God specifically tells the NT Church that the OT prophets were ministering to the Church. Let us have a good understanding of the Law and the Prophets and see how they spiritually apply to the Church today.
As the Old Covenant is a shadow and type of the New Covenant to come, we as Christians should have a good understanding of the Old Covenant, not to abide by the letter of the law, but to understand how it applies spiritually in our lives. The 7 feasts for example had a prophetic application to Christ's ministry for both the 1st coming and His 2nd coming. The Ritual and Ceremonial Law have been written into our hearts and minds, but the Moral Law very much is in effect today. What God told His people before about what not to touch due to it being unclean now applies for us not to partake in what is spiritually unclean.
In essence, we are not called to live by the letter of the law, but we do have the Law and the Prophets as an admonition for the Church today to learn from and not repeat the same mistakes that the OT Israelites unfortunately fell under and were judged for their sin. God says there is nothing new under the sun and what has been shall be. God specifically tells the NT Church that the OT prophets were ministering to the Church. Let us have a good understanding of the Law and the Prophets and see how they spiritually apply to the Church today.
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The Jewish people are the original branches that God instructs us not to boast against. For if they do not continue in unbelief, they shall be re-grafted back in and there is great glory in that. Let us also heed when God says that if He did not spare the original branches, He may not spare us either. Let us continue in belief
As the Old Covenant is a shadow and type of the New Covenant to come, we as Christians should have a good understanding of the Old Covenant, not to abide by the letter of the law, but to understand how it applies spiritually in our lives. The 7 feasts for example had a prophetic application to Christ's ministry for both the 1st coming and His 2nd coming. The Ritual and Ceremonial Law have been written into our hearts and minds, but the Moral Law very much is in effect today. What God told His people before about what not to touch due to it being unclean now applies for us not to partake in what is spiritually unclean.
In essence, we are not called to live by the letter of the law, but we do have the Law and the Prophets as an admonition for the Church today to learn from and not repeat the same mistakes that the OT Israelites unfortunately fell under and were judged for their sin. God says there is nothing new under the sun and what has been shall be. God specifically tells the NT Church that the OT prophets were ministering to the Church. Let us have a good understanding of the Law and the Prophets and see how they spiritually apply to the Church today.
As the Old Covenant is a shadow and type of the New Covenant to come, we as Christians should have a good understanding of the Old Covenant, not to abide by the letter of the law, but to understand how it applies spiritually in our lives. The 7 feasts for example had a prophetic application to Christ's ministry for both the 1st coming and His 2nd coming. The Ritual and Ceremonial Law have been written into our hearts and minds, but the Moral Law very much is in effect today. What God told His people before about what not to touch due to it being unclean now applies for us not to partake in what is spiritually unclean.
In essence, we are not called to live by the letter of the law, but we do have the Law and the Prophets as an admonition for the Church today to learn from and not repeat the same mistakes that the OT Israelites unfortunately fell under and were judged for their sin. God says there is nothing new under the sun and what has been shall be. God specifically tells the NT Church that the OT prophets were ministering to the Church. Let us have a good understanding of the Law and the Prophets and see how they spiritually apply to the Church today.
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Malachi is placed in the OT just where God wanted it. Acts is a transitional book that takes the reader from Matt. to Romans showing him the development of of the early church, and the development of Chrisitan doctrine.
Gentile believers are not grafted into the Judaism of the Mosaic Covenant; they are grafted into the seed and faith of Abraham, which preceded the Law and Jewish customs.
They are fellow citizens with the saints (Ephesians 2:19), but they are not Jews. Paul explains this clearly when he tells those who were circumcised (the Jews) "not to seek to be uncircumcised" and those who were uncircumcised (the Gentiles) "not to become circumcised" (1 Corinthians 7:18).
There is no need for either group to feel they must become what they are not. Instead, God has made Jews and Gentiles into "one new man" in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 2:15). This "new man" is referring to the Church, the body of Christ, which is made up of neither Jew nor Gentile (Galatians 3:27-29).
It's important for Jews and Gentiles to remain authentic in their own identity. In this way a clear picture of the unity of the body of Christ can be seen as Jews and Gentiles are united by one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
If Gentiles are grafted into Israel, becoming Jews, the purpose and picture of both Jew and Gentile, coming together as one new man, is lost. God never intended Gentiles to become one in Israel, but one in Christ.
Gentile believers are not grafted into the Judaism of the Mosaic Covenant; they are grafted into the seed and faith of Abraham, which preceded the Law and Jewish customs.
They are fellow citizens with the saints (Ephesians 2:19), but they are not Jews. Paul explains this clearly when he tells those who were circumcised (the Jews) "not to seek to be uncircumcised" and those who were uncircumcised (the Gentiles) "not to become circumcised" (1 Corinthians 7:18).
There is no need for either group to feel they must become what they are not. Instead, God has made Jews and Gentiles into "one new man" in Christ Jesus (Ephesians 2:15). This "new man" is referring to the Church, the body of Christ, which is made up of neither Jew nor Gentile (Galatians 3:27-29).
It's important for Jews and Gentiles to remain authentic in their own identity. In this way a clear picture of the unity of the body of Christ can be seen as Jews and Gentiles are united by one Lord, one faith, one baptism.
If Gentiles are grafted into Israel, becoming Jews, the purpose and picture of both Jew and Gentile, coming together as one new man, is lost. God never intended Gentiles to become one in Israel, but one in Christ.
I don't think Christians should try to be more "Jewish" because there are a lot of extra non-Biblical practices that come with that. I do believe Christians should be more Hebrew than anything, by keeping the commandments found in the Torah/Law like keeping the Sabbath, Feast Days, etc. God gave those instructions for Israel to be blessed so those commandments are inherently good when used the right way.
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The Jewish Roots of Christianity, Part I | Day of Discovery
Please view this video as it is one of the study guides I have used in this study.
Perhaps the title of this thread has thrown some people off of what I am trying to convey.
In the church today as well in my own assembly the study of the first church has been watered down some what and I believe that is where a lot of diversity comes from. My quest is that the church comes once again before God in one accord.
Please view this video as it is one of the study guides I have used in this study.
Perhaps the title of this thread has thrown some people off of what I am trying to convey.
In the church today as well in my own assembly the study of the first church has been watered down some what and I believe that is where a lot of diversity comes from. My quest is that the church comes once again before God in one accord.