How long is the church age?

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MarcR

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The time of the Gentiles will never cease. That’s like saying, “Until pigs fly.” (pigs will never fly). Or better yet like saying, “Until God stops loving His people.” (That’s a long wait, cause God will never stop loving His people.)
Luke 21:20-24
20 And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh.
21 Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.
23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
24 And they shall fall by the edge of the sword, and shall be led away captive into all nations: and Jerusalem shall be trodden down of the Gentiles, until the times of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
KJV

Jerusalem returned to Israeli control in 1967
 

Ahwatukee

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IMO the Church age or the time of the Gentiles is from about 28 AD to 1967 AD. This is not intended to suggest that the Church is now defunct! It means that that in 1967, God began to shift his focus from the Gentiles back to Israel.

From another [IMO equally valid] perspective the church age will continue until the rapture even though the 'time of the Gentiles' has ceased.
Hello MarcR,

IMO, although the stage is being set for the completion of that last seven years for, the Lord has not shifted his focus to Israel yet, as He is still building the church. Once the church has been removed, then His focus shifts back to Israel, which begins when the AC establishes that seven year covenant with them making it possible for them to build their temple in fulfillment of that last seven years of the decree of seventy sevens.
 

Ahwatukee

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The time of the Gentiles will never cease. That’s like saying, “Until pigs fly.” (pigs will never fly). Or better yet like saying, “Until God stops loving His people.” (That’s a long wait, cause God will never stop loving His people.)
Hello Onefaith,

That is not true! Scripture states that there is end to the times of the Gentiles, so I don't know why you would make that assumption. Here are the scriptures:

"They will fall by the sword and will be taken as prisoners to all the nations. Jerusalem will be trampled on by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.

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A partial hardening has come upon Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in”​ - Rom.11:25
Obviously there is an end to the times of the Gentiles
 
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eternally-gratefull

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The time of the Gentiles will never cease. That’s like saying, “Until pigs fly.” (pigs will never fly). Or better yet like saying, “Until God stops loving His people.” (That’s a long wait, cause God will never stop loving His people.)
The time of the gentiles will cease when the rock (lord) returns and smites the Statue of Nebechadnezzar (the gentile kingdoms) to pieces (dan 2). When he slays the final beast of Daniel 7. when the final week of Daniel 9 is fulfilled, When he returns at the end of the "great tribulation" where if he did not come back, No life would survive. When he returns and defeats the antichrist, and binds satan for 1000 years. When he sets up his throne in Jerusalem, and rules the world from Davids throne.
 

John146

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70 years Israel was exiled.
490 years is Daniel's 70 times 7.
Between the 69 sevens and the final 7 is the church age.

The math behind Revelation 2:10, Endure 10 days in prison, receive the crown of life.

10 days is not long compared to the crown of life as the length of the great tribulation is not long compared to 1000 years.

3 lengths of the tribulation are 3.5 years, 1260 days and 42 months.

the math proportion crown of life equals 285714, 793650 and 238095.
the 6 digits repeat.

285714 divided by 23 gives 66 digits that repeat with 888 in the 30th - 32nd digit.
888 is the gematria of Jesus name in Greek.

2857.14 divided by 80 = 35.714 which is about the number of Israelites killed in Joshua 7:3-5 (about 36).
It may be Jesus' age when he was crucified. If this is so, Jesus was born on the 117th day of the Jewish calendar (Our July 18). He would have been born in 5 BC in the summer. Our calendar skips from 1 BC to 1 AD, the Romans nor the Jews had a number for nothing. We learned about zero from the Arabs.

285714 divided by 95 has 18 digits with Methuselah's age when he became a father and his age when he died.
30075187969924812
Enoch was translated when Methuselah was 300.

The answer repeats as 20307518796992481
When Methuselah was 81, he had 888 years to live. Noah will be born in 288 years. (subtract 369 from Methuselah's age of 81)
369 is 187 plus 182, the ages when Methuselah and his son Lamech begat a son.

I conclude, the bible does not say, that 2030 represents the church age.
The days of the church age are 2030 times 360 = 730880.
The gentile years of the church age are 730880 / 365.25 = 2000 year plus 300 days.

My initial attempt to interpret these numbers, I thought the 30 represented the about age 30 that Jesus started his ministry in Luke 3:23. Then the 2030 would represent the years after his birth but that time has passed.

2030 = 29 times 70.

the 14th generation, Eber lived 430 years after he begat. The Exodus was 430 years after Abram received God's promise.

the 13th and 12th generations lived 403 years each after begetting a son.

the 17th generation, Serug lived 230 years total.

the 16th and 15th generations lived a total of 239 years each.

the 18th generation Nahor begat at age 29. He lived 119 years after he had a son. He lived 148 years total.
Coincidence, Israel became a nation in 1948 AD.

the 19th generation Terah begat at age 70.
29 times 70 = 2030.

Daniel's 70 times 7 plus 70 times 29 = 70 times 36 = 2520.
360 times 7 is the time in days of Daniel's final seven years.
And may be be the length of years from the end of the 70 year exile to the return of Jesus.

The 2520 years will be in 2036 AD since Jesus was crucified in 32 AD on the 14th day.
Add 2000 years plus 300 days is 49 days after Hanukkah in 2036.
Hanukkah is in the 9th month the 25th day (day 265 on the Hebrew calendar.) 1 Maccabees 4, 2 Maccabees 10
Jesus celebrated it. It is called the festival of dedication in the winter in John 10.

I have no idea if Jesus will return on the day that I interpret according to the math.
I think the math in Holy Spirit inspired. 2036 is 88 years after 1948.

238095. the two and a half tribes lead Israel across the Jordan River when they entered the Promised Land.
The two and a half were 23% of total census in Numbers 26.
what would be called the nine and a half tribes were 80% in Numbers 1, the first census.
40 years wandering in the desert separate the 2 censuses.
Speaking from a dispensation point of view, God works to completion in the number 7. It was approx. 4,000 years from Adam to Christ. Knowing that Christ will reign 1,000 years before eternity future, that leaves 2,000 years for the Church Age in which we currently live. The Church Age is coming to a close as the fullness of the Gentiles is ending. The Lord will resume His plans for Israel and His Millennial Kingdom on earth will be established. After that, the GWTJ and eternity future with a new heaven and new earth.