How long 'til the end?

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phil112

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The obvious answer is no one knows, of course, but I am thinking that it could very well be longer than I and others anticipate.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

We know Christ won't tarry, that He has said He will come soon, but how much time is soon to Him? We don't know how long man was here from Christ's birth back, but we, no doubt, have less time than that. But if you stop and think about it, it's only been two days since Christ, to God. Man was here at least 4 thousand years, or 4 days, up 'til Christ. Might be 3 thousand years or more before He comes. That's only 3 days to God.

Just something that crossed my mind as I read this morning.
 
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Ya honestly I can't see it happening anytime soon but the funny thing is that is exactly the mindset Jesus said ppl would have when BAM like a thief in the night he comes and the end begins
 
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I seriously feel we have no less than maybe 10,000 more years.
 
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If you believe like I do that the earth is almost 6,000 years old, it can't be to long because we have to rest in the millennium of peace.

The Jewish calendar says 5775 but they missed +- 200 years in the confusion when changing from their calendar too the Gregorian calendar.
 
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I agree, Phil. That same realization has lead me to give little thought to when and how He might come back. Instead, I choose to dwell on the fact that He wants me to serve and build up His Kingdom, with no thought of tomorrow.

Today has enough troubles of its own.
 
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phil112 said:
The obvious answer is no one knows, of course, but I am thinking that it could very well be longer than I and others anticipate.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

We know Christ won't tarry, that He has said He will come soon, but how much time is soon to Him? We don't know how long man was here from Christ's birth back, but we, no doubt, have less time than that. But if you stop and think about it, it's only been two days since Christ, to God. Man was here at least 4 thousand years, or 4 days, up 'til Christ. Might be 3 thousand years or more before He comes. That's only 3 days to God.

Just something that crossed my mind as I read this morning.
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God choose a people before the foundation of the world as his elect family. We are all born into this world without any righteousness of our own, and sometime after their natural birth the elect are quickened (born again). Jesus will come to gather his elect right after the last one of his elect is born a natural birth and is quickened to a spiritual life. God's elect were adopted by Christ paying for that adoption, and the last phase of the adoption will be when Christ returns to gather them up and take them home.
 
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Christ says we will never know when the time is for him to come back but when he does come, we will know unmistakably.
So please don't listen to anyone who pretends to know when the end times are here.

We are to prepare ourselves in Christ as if he were coming tonight.

God bless
 
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Yes he said no one would know when he comes back but he didnt say we wouldn't know when the end times are here. The end times don't begin with him coming back
 
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KohenMatt said:
I agree, Phil. That same realization has lead me to give little thought to when and how He might come back. Instead, I choose to dwell on the fact that He wants me to serve and build up His Kingdom, with no thought of tomorrow.

Today has enough troubles of its own.
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Amen!

"Take therefore no thought for the morrow: for the morrow shall take thought for the things of itself. Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof."
 
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KohenMatt said:
I agree, Phil. That same realization has lead me to give little thought to when and how He might come back. Instead, I choose to dwell on the fact that He wants me to serve and build up His Kingdom, with no thought of tomorrow.

Today has enough troubles of its own.
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Man does not help God build up his kingdom. God adds to the church daily such as should be saved. Acts 2:47. Most of God's children think that they have to help God do things, such as, to build his kingdom, eternally save the lost. God has all power to bring to pass what he purposes. Dan 4:35, God has his way with the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth, and none can stay his hand, or say unto him; What doest thou. Romans 9-13, For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sarah shall have a son, and not only this, but when Rebecca also had conceived by one, even by our father Isaac; For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth. It was said unto her, the elder shall serve the younger. As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated.
 
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We are living in the last days :) but time is not an issue for our Saviour.
 
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phil112 said:
The obvious answer is no one knows, of course, but I am thinking that it could very well be longer than I and others anticipate.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

We know Christ won't tarry, that He has said He will come soon, but how much time is soon to Him? We don't know how long man was here from Christ's birth back, but we, no doubt, have less time than that. But if you stop and think about it, it's only been two days since Christ, to God. Man was here at least 4 thousand years, or 4 days, up 'til Christ. Might be 3 thousand years or more before He comes. That's only 3 days to God.

Just something that crossed my mind as I read this morning.
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A couple things, though. Israel heavily figures into end times prophecy, and the current situation is in the Bible. Also, I cannot conceive any possibility, forget the Bible for a second and just consider modern history, that man wouldn't blow himself up a whole lot sooner, in this nuclear age of the same idiots, but with fingers on the buttons: I fully believe God is going to have to save the planet sooner, rather than later.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
 
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eyesonly said:
Christ says we will never know when the time is for him to come back but when he does come, we will know unmistakably.
So please don't listen to anyone who pretends to know when the end times are here.

We are to prepare ourselves in Christ as if he were coming tonight.

God bless
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Matthew 24:32-34 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
 
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phil112

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JesusIsAll said:
A couple things, though. Israel heavily figures into end times prophecy, and the current situation is in the Bible. Also, I cannot conceive any possibility, forget the Bible for a second and just consider modern history, that man wouldn't blow himself up a whole lot sooner, in this nuclear age of the same idiots, but with fingers on the buttons: I fully believe God is going to have to save the planet sooner, rather than later.

Matthew 24:22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
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My point being that sooner to God is not even close to what it is to us. His ways are not our ways.

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Matthew 24:32-34 Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh: so likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors. Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
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That was the literal destruction of Jerusalem He was referring to, I do believe.
Or He was referring to the generation that sees those signs in the last days. Could be us, could be our children, or could be our grandchildren. We simply don't know.
Just be ready! :)
 
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GandalfTheWhite said:
We are living in the last days :) but time is not an issue for our Saviour.
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Actually, if you go back to Acts, and read what Peter stood up and said at that Pentecost, you'll find he openly declared they were living in "the last days" at that very moment.
 
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phil112 said:
That was the literal destruction of Jerusalem He was referring to, I do believe.
Or He was referring to the generation that sees those signs in the last days. Could be us, could be our children, or could be our grandchildren. We simply don't know.
Just be ready! :)
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A lot in the Olivet Discourse has not yet happened, it would seem to take all those yet to be fulfilled events out of the context and make His reference the 70AD event a stretch, and when He said all these things?
 
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phil112 said:
The obvious answer is no one knows, of course, but I am thinking that it could very well be longer than I and others anticipate.

2 Peter 3:8 "But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

We know Christ won't tarry, that He has said He will come soon, but how much time is soon to Him? We don't know how long man was here from Christ's birth back, but we, no doubt, have less time than that. But if you stop and think about it, it's only been two days since Christ, to God. Man was here at least 4 thousand years, or 4 days, up 'til Christ. Might be 3 thousand years or more before He comes. That's only 3 days to God.

Just something that crossed my mind as I read this morning.
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I figure Jesus returns when the last whosoever-will-believe that the Father will wrought is wrought. No sooner. No later. Well, maybe later. Maybe God helps that last believer grow before bringing the final setting down.

But as for comparing days with millenniums goes, you do realize that's a metaphor, right? God really does know the difference between a day and a thousand years. He's created time and space, so is trying to get us to see a bit of how he sees it.

I seriously doubt it will happen in my lifetime. There was something like 16 generations between Noah and Abraham, and I don't know if that definition of generation was the 30-year definition or the 100-year definition, but it was enough time to populate all parts of the world. God seems to do things symmetrically, so I think (not to be confused with know), there's equal time between before Jesus comes and after he came. Might be another eon before he comes. Might be a minute. His timing is perfect though.

And, I'm not a millennialist in any choice of that prefix, (pre-, post-, or a-) so my thoughts don't go with God picking out the Christians before the big finale. I do suspect the USA won't be around then, simply because too many Americans think this country has some special spot in God's overall plan. I could be wrong. (Not about America being special, but about God's timing.)

One thing for sure, no one is going to miss it when Jesus decends again. :D
 
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We can began the count down when the man of sin is identified.
According to Daniel, there will be 1335 days until the 1000 year of Jesus begins.
The man of sin will reign for 1290 days, and during that time the two witnesses will witness for 1260 days, be killed by the man of sin, lay in the streets of Jerusalem for 3 1/2 days before they stand up and are called up into heaven.
During this 1290 days, the saints will be persecuted and killed, Israel will be driven into the wilderness and protected by God for 1260 days, and then after 1290 days the seventh trump will sound, Jesus will return, all the saints that have died will be ressurected, those who are still alive will be changed, the man of sin and the false prophet will be changed in the pit for 1000 years, and for 45 days the seven bowls of Gods wrath will be poured out on the earth.
 
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JesusIsAll said:
A lot in the Olivet Discourse has not yet happened, it would seem to take all those yet to be fulfilled events out of the context and make His reference the 70AD event a stretch, and when He said all these things?
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Can you post a list of those things which have not happened? (Just so we'll know what you're talking about)
 
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