How Old Is Your Church?
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Ken, I was told that in the year 30, James the Just the brother of Jesus was head of the church?
Also, that the first Christian council was the Council at Nicea. I thought the Catholic Church sort of evolved from that so that in a way, Constantine was behind the start of the church. You know more history than I do, please comment.
Also, that the first Christian council was the Council at Nicea. I thought the Catholic Church sort of evolved from that so that in a way, Constantine was behind the start of the church. You know more history than I do, please comment.
K
There were many councils before Nicea MAJOR COUNCILS OF THE CHURCH: (councils.htm) The Catholic church did indeed evolve through that. The problem is the OP states that the Catholic, and only the Catholic was founded by Jesus, and all others were founded by men. It then makes the agressive, prideful, domineering statement that started the Inquisition and many wars, that one can be saved only by being in union with the Pope. In fact, all churches are founded by Jesus (or claim to be) acting through men, just as the Catholic church was. That makes the age irrelevant, since Jesus goes back to forever. The correct history is that many men have sought to bring Jesus more into the world, and all of them deserve to be honored for their service to the Kingdom, James and Constatine among them.
And by the way, reading a little history and knowing history are not the same.
If you didn't know the Lutheran religion is catholic also. Catholic means universal. We even have the same creed as the Roman catholic church.
Martin just made some serious changes to your goofy religion so peoples souls could actually be saved instead of lost.
How can anyone expect to be saved by the Word when your priests didn't even proclaim God's True Word. Over the centuries and learning from the Lutherans you RCs are finally starting to get the story straight.
If you didn't know the Lutheran religion is catholic also. Catholic means universal. We even have the same creed as the Roman catholic church.
Martin just made some serious changes to your goofy religion so peoples souls could actually be saved instead of lost.
How can anyone expect to be saved by the Word when your priests didn't even proclaim God's True Word. Over the centuries and learning from the Lutherans you RCs are finally starting to get the story straight.
The below is mine where I worship at in Spirit and truth with God and all the Saints in heaven, where we that believe are made citizens of, and are no longer of this world, only in it as ambassadors
Hebrews 8:2 a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
Hebrews 8:2 a minister of the sanctuary, and of the true tabernacle, which the Lord pitched, and not man.
How is that, when Constantine's purpose was to bring money into them. By saying to those Pagan Priest's, just say you believe and the people will come to worship, now this is carried onto today in many different places of worship. And many people are deceived by the word CHURCH alone, being a mistranslation from the Greek which means building, and God does not live in buildings.
The word that was mistranslated is the Greek word "ECCLESIA" means the called out ones, not the called in ones to worship in a building. Gathering is good for fellowship in God's LOVE, and can be anywhere at anytime.
But this is not what is so today.
It was Job Security that put Christ on the cross to begin with, for they put him out of their place of worship, and the people followed him away from their place, and so people not there, no money coming in. so in fear of Job Security they planned the death of Christ. Thinking even after a while it will come to naught. And it did not, nor ever will. CHRIST is CHRIST, the way the truth and the life, through the cross it is revealed to us all, whether we believe or not it is truth.
So finally what had to be done was say you believe and the people will come and we will have created an income
And we did and do as LEMMINGS do. We are sheep, and in need of a Shepard.
CHRIST IS MY SHEPARD, how about any one else?
Is your Denomination your Shepard? or any place of worship your Shepard?
The word that was mistranslated is the Greek word "ECCLESIA" means the called out ones, not the called in ones to worship in a building. Gathering is good for fellowship in God's LOVE, and can be anywhere at anytime.
But this is not what is so today.
It was Job Security that put Christ on the cross to begin with, for they put him out of their place of worship, and the people followed him away from their place, and so people not there, no money coming in. so in fear of Job Security they planned the death of Christ. Thinking even after a while it will come to naught. And it did not, nor ever will. CHRIST is CHRIST, the way the truth and the life, through the cross it is revealed to us all, whether we believe or not it is truth.
So finally what had to be done was say you believe and the people will come and we will have created an income
And we did and do as LEMMINGS do. We are sheep, and in need of a Shepard.
CHRIST IS MY SHEPARD, how about any one else?
Is your Denomination your Shepard? or any place of worship your Shepard?
Easter was and is a Pagan Holiday just as Christmas is, Facts are Facts, regardless how one thinks or feels.
Even thanksgiving is a celebration in truth for killing the Indians after learning from them how to survive and this is celebrated, the killing of others, hmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again Facts are Facts, man covers up his wrongs all the time and hides behind Laws of man
Just like this U.S. was started o biblical values In freedom, when actually it is prosperity that took over.
Even thanksgiving is a celebration in truth for killing the Indians after learning from them how to survive and this is celebrated, the killing of others, hmm!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Again Facts are Facts, man covers up his wrongs all the time and hides behind Laws of man
Just like this U.S. was started o biblical values In freedom, when actually it is prosperity that took over.
Peace be with you; "Thank you FATHER, You hid this from the wise and prudent and showed them to ordinary people."
Church actually means the body of CHRIST and this came to effect in the New Covenant.
First, let me humbly ask you this, when and who used the word 'church' first in the New Testament? (also scripture quote please)
Second, Where in the Old Testament the word 'church' is written? (also scripture quote please)
As it is written; "GOD catches the wise when they try to outsmart HIM,"
Also it is written; "The LORD knows that the plans made by wise people are useless."
Together it is written; "Your worst enemy will be in your own household."
Church actually means the body of CHRIST and this came to effect in the New Covenant.
First, let me humbly ask you this, when and who used the word 'church' first in the New Testament? (also scripture quote please)
Second, Where in the Old Testament the word 'church' is written? (also scripture quote please)
As it is written; "GOD catches the wise when they try to outsmart HIM,"
Also it is written; "The LORD knows that the plans made by wise people are useless."
Together it is written; "Your worst enemy will be in your own household."