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No,Im sorry,you're wrong and this opinion is what Im talking about concerning who the church needs to deal with homosexuality. Homosexuality is not a disease, what you mentioned above are diseases. Science has not proven people are born this way and it is a choice. God would not create someone to be homosexual and then turn around and condemn them. The Bible says in both the old and new testament that homosexuality is a sin. God said it was a sin,He never changes,it was a sin then and it is now. It is a sin against ones own body. Any form of sexual sin is wrong.
As far as blacks not being allowed in church that was a matter of racism and that is also sin. It had nothing to do with anything the Bible says,nowhere in the Bible does it say blacks are different than anyone else.
When Jesus came He made a door between us and God. Unclean was an issue because God is perfect and holy. Jesus,the only perfect and sinless one, made a way for us to commune with God even though we are imperfect sinners and unclean. We can now all come to Him because of the cross. While Jesus would not bar the door to gays or anyone else truly seeking Him,neither would He tolerate sin. He often said "go thy way and sin no more". Jesus dealt directly with sin and so ought we.
In 1997 He claims he was given more light of the revelation of the cross and him crucified than even the Apostle Paul. He also claims Paul was never victorious over his SIN in his personal life, because he did not understand the message of the Cross. He also claims in 1997 he was told by God directly he was the only END TIME Apostle that was preaching the truth...to this day all other churches are going to hell and only Swaggert ministries teaches the truth of the cross.
He routinely preaches to have faith in the cross not Jesus Christ to be saved. He very rarely preaches Christ, he only preaches the cross...Their arrogance against all other ministries is self evident and needs no exposure. If you really want to see how bad his deception is, check out his personal Jimmy Swaggert Expositors Study Bible.
He was caught with again prostitutes and porn in his car in 91, 95 and 97. When he fell, he admitted to the AOG General leadership that he chased prostitutes all the time in every city he held revivals...
He routinely preaches to have faith in the cross not Jesus Christ to be saved. He very rarely preaches Christ, he only preaches the cross...Their arrogance against all other ministries is self evident and needs no exposure. If you really want to see how bad his deception is, check out his personal Jimmy Swaggert Expositors Study Bible.
He was caught with again prostitutes and porn in his car in 91, 95 and 97. When he fell, he admitted to the AOG General leadership that he chased prostitutes all the time in every city he held revivals...
Hello Meggido
I think this would be a good topic for discussion,I would like to get a better understanding of the difference between the cross and the ressurection.
I think this would be a good topic for discussion,I would like to get a better understanding of the difference between the cross and the ressurection.
The bible says the cross does 2 things, redeems you from the powers of darkness and the shed blood forgives your sin....the Old man must be crucified with Christ.
The resurrection is where we are born again and raised into newness of life and become a new man...
This is not a 2 step salvation plan in the least bit. I know many that mental assent at the cross, but never die....
GAL.15:13.16.
For, brethren, you have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh,
but by love serve one another.
This I say then, Walk in The Spirit, and you shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
ROM. 8:1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-13-14-28.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh,
but after The Spirit.
For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body,
you shall live.
For what the Law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His own Son
in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after The Spirit
the things of The Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the Law of God,
neither indeed can be.
For as many as are led by The Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called
according to His purpose.
For, brethren, you have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh,
but by love serve one another.
This I say then, Walk in The Spirit, and you shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
ROM. 8:1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-13-14-28.
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh,
but after The Spirit.
For the Law of the Spirit of Life in Christ Jesus has made me free from the law of sin and death.
So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
For if you live after the flesh, you shall die: but if you through the Spirit do mortify the deeds of the body,
you shall live.
For what the Law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending His own Son
in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
That the Righteousness of the Law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after The Spirit.
For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after The Spirit
the things of The Spirit.
For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the Law of God,
neither indeed can be.
For as many as are led by The Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called
according to His purpose.
Well I am not wrong...but i do understand the status quo and no matter how incorrect it
is, it is the effect of brain washing...that is the pulpit saying, do this my way or the highway.
Imagine if Jesus remained in the status quo, He wouldn't have been killed by the hierarchy ...
and we wouldn't be Christians today...let's not forget love fulfils all the law...i know i won't
be heard here but i have the right to say it and i say it with confidence....ask Jesus.
is, it is the effect of brain washing...that is the pulpit saying, do this my way or the highway.
Imagine if Jesus remained in the status quo, He wouldn't have been killed by the hierarchy ...
and we wouldn't be Christians today...let's not forget love fulfils all the law...i know i won't
be heard here but i have the right to say it and i say it with confidence....ask Jesus.
I'd like to say I'm black, and I prefer to be call "African-American" lol.. Also, I know personally I have no control over my heart thinking someone is beautiful, because truthfully my thinks for the most part everyone is beautiful. For instance, God hugs men and women the same. Its just about understanding, what his word is saying.
No it hasnt. In fact it has just compiled a bunch of statistics, and has called it proof. Stats like this many twins end up being gay, and this amount of people who identify as gay having this or that gene compared to this many people who identify as being gay not having it.
Even the scientists who "discovered" the gay gene have admitted that their findings are not actual proof of a gay gene, but merely evidence that could suggest the possibility.
I say this as someone who deals with the temptation, homosexuality is not genetic, and anyone can deny the urges with no more difficulty other than occasional frustration.
Even the scientists who "discovered" the gay gene have admitted that their findings are not actual proof of a gay gene, but merely evidence that could suggest the possibility.
I say this as someone who deals with the temptation, homosexuality is not genetic, and anyone can deny the urges with no more difficulty other than occasional frustration.
I often feel annoyed when people make the argument "you shouldnt be against a wrong action because racism happened".
Racism has nothing to do with the personal choices of people. What God is against is the wrong doings of people, not the color of their skin. Race is not relevant when it comes to sin.
Racism has nothing to do with the personal choices of people. What God is against is the wrong doings of people, not the color of their skin. Race is not relevant when it comes to sin.
Again, for me personally it was a matter of personal brokenness, and not having the right people to talk to about it. If someone such as myself cannot stand up in church and say I suffer with same sex attraction, please pray for me or whatever, then something is terribly wrong. Just like if a murderer, says I have urges to kill. I'd rather them say it out loud, and help them pray about it, then to have them kill someone.
Paul said: "For the preaching of the Cross is to them who perish foolishness; but to we who are Saved, it is the Power of God" (1 Cor. 1:18)
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 1 Cor. 1:23
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.[SUP]8 [/SUP](According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day. Romans 11:7-8
Has the LORD turned you over to the spirit of slumber?
But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness; 1 Cor. 1:23
What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded.[SUP]8 [/SUP](According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear unto this day. Romans 11:7-8
Has the LORD turned you over to the spirit of slumber?
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