Humans VS Angels

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Blain

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So I have always been curious about this subject, why does God love us more than angels? I know it is because we are made in his image or as some have told me because we have free will. if the second one is true then there comes another question don't angels have free will too? I mean satan took with him angels when he fell from heaven because they chose to follow him not God. is that not free will? to choose to follow someone else?

except it appears angels get one chance not many, they mess up and go against God and they are cast out of heaven. we however get many chances thanks to Jesus and God's love and grace. the thing also about free will is that a friend told me angels were created with the knowledge and knowing of all things about God and we weren't, so therefore he loves it even more if we choose to follow him with our own will.

So it seems to me being human is the greatest privilege ever, so then maybe we should be thankful for God create us in his image huh? the second part of my post i will post later because I then want to talk about the human mind and the human spirit
 
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Well Blain, I can see it still being fair. If you were in Heaven, and saw God almighty with your own eyes, you probably wouldn't need multiple chances to decide whether or not to join an insurrection against Him.
 
Blain

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JimJimmers said:
Well Blain, I can see it still being fair. If you were in Heaven, and saw God almighty with your own eyes, you probably wouldn't need multiple chances to decide whether or not to join an insurrection against Him.
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Oh I know it is fair but the point is that angels were born with the knowledge and glory of God and we aren't, which is why I think he takes great delight in someone who chooses to follow him by their own free will even though they have not seen his glory and have not the knowledge of him that the angels do.

that is one reason why they get one chance and we don't, because they know better than to do such a thing and we know very little compared to them. that and he created us as his own children, as if from his own seed because he wanted a bond he could not have with the angels. Lets be honest here our father really likes children and lots of them;]
 
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Blain said:
So I have always been curious about this subject, why does God love us more than angels? I know it is because we are made in his image or as some have told me because we have free will. if the second one is true then there comes another question don't angels have free will too? I mean satan took with him angels when he fell from heaven because they chose to follow him not God. is that not free will? to choose to follow someone else?

except it appears angels get one chance not many, they mess up and go against God and they are cast out of heaven. we however get many chances thanks to Jesus and God's love and grace. the thing also about free will is that a friend told me angels were created with the knowledge and knowing of all things about God and we weren't, so therefore he loves it even more if we choose to follow him with our own will.

So it seems to me being human is the greatest privilege ever, so then maybe we should be thankful for God create us in his image huh? the second part of my post i will post later because I then want to talk about the human mind and the human spirit
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Where is it written He loves us more then the angels ?

That reminds me of ( Acts 10:34 ) ..

I'm not sure that we get many chances, where is that written ? That brings to mind ( Hebrews 9:27 ) ( Mark 12:25 )

I think if we were in such good standing, we would not have come here to start with. But, that does not take into account, that there were some people sent here, to accomplish God's will and to help others.( Jeremiah 1:5 )

As far as some of the things you mentioned, I wonder if you can post some scriptures to look over about this ?
 
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Blain

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nathan3 said:
Where is it written He loves us more then the angels ?

That reminds me of ( Acts 10:34 ) ..

I'm not sure that we get many chances, where is that written ? That brings to mind ( Hebrews 9:27 ) ( Mark 12:25 )

I think if we were in such good standing, we would not have come here to start with. But, that does not take into account, that there were some people sent here, to accomplish God's will and to help others.( Jeremiah 1:5 )

As far as some of the things you mentioned, I wonder if you can post some scriptures to look over about this ?
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Honestly I do not remember where it was written we are his favorite creations but i know we were created for his glory. and if we were not his favorite creations he would not have sacrificed himself to save us. and as for the other stuff I said it may not be written in the bible anywhere but i believe it to be true you may believe it or not. and honestly is life that bad that you say if we were in such good standing why would we be here?

we dug our own grave with this, he created us and the world to live in peace and love with him it was mankind that went against him and got tricked by the devil. And I would say we get millions of chances, how many times a day do you sin? do you think if an angel sinned they could stay in heaven?
 
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Honestly I do not remember where it was written we are his favorite creations but i know we were created for his glory. and if we were not his favorite creations he would not have sacrificed himself to save us. and as for the other stuff I said it may not be written in the bible anywhere but i believe it to be true you may believe it or not. and honestly is life that bad that you say if we were in such good standing why would we be here?
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Life is not bad DEPENDING , but i said that in connection to your title, Angels vs humans; the state of the angels in comparison to the people on earth ..

And maybe this is the scripture you were talking about ?

Revelation 4:11 Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.


Why did Christ come to save us ? Because he loves us. As its written in John ( 2 Peter 3:9 ) .

But since its written, God is not a respecter of persons ( Acts 10:34 ) , its natural , then it comes to His love for us being the reason, not that we are any more special then anyone. But like a lamb when it gos astray, the good shepherd gos after that one that falls away.

its better to attempt to use specific places in the Bible to avoid confusion ; if there is going to be a back and forth conversation about these kinds of things.
 
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Intruding into doctrine of angels. Shouldn't you know better?
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does not seem like that to me, seems like he just asked a question . But, its hard to talk about this, if we dont attempt to use whats written, because it I know its not going to lead anywhere, likely.
 
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nathan3 said:
does not seem like that to me, seems like he just asked a question . But, its hard to talk about this, if we dont attempt to use whats written, because it I know its not going to lead anywhere, likely.
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Nathan this was a discussion about angels and humans not all discussion have to include scripture. can we not just talk and post our opinions?
 
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Nathan this was a discussion about angels and humans not all discussion have to include scripture. can we not just talk and post our opinions?
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That leads to a dead end.... what opinion, about the things of God, can a man offer; when God has given His words on all these things ?
( Mark 13:23 )

Why would we dabble in opinion, when we have the scriptures ?


My thoughts as a Christian, on matters pertaining to God, and His creation, Must by default always include scripture...



Other wise, you will never get to the truth of the matter, right ?

Just from my experience with all the different people that use the Forums, this scriptures comes to mind. ( Acts 17:21 )( 2 Timothy 3:7 )...

It is very important, to always try our best to aline with what is written, and avoid opinions and guess work , if that does not include What God says.

I mean, can you see where I'm coming from ??? ( Acts 17:21 )
 
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Blain

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nathan3 said:
That leads to a dead end.... what opinion, about the things of God, can a man offer; when God has given His words on all these things ?
( Mark 13:23 )

Why would we dabble in opinion, when we have the scriptures ?


My thoughts as a Christian, on matters pertaining to God, and His creation, Must by default always include scripture...



Other wise, you will never get to the truth of the matter, right ?

Just from my experience with all the different people that use the Forums, this scriptures comes to mind. ( Acts 17:21 )( 2 Timothy 3:7 )...

It is very important, to always try our best to aline with what is written, and avoid opinions and guess work , if that does not include What God says.

I mean, can you see where I'm coming from ???
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All I see when people post scripture to prove their point is constant arguements. You don't always need scripture to talk about God, if it turns into a dead end then it turns into a dead end most threads do anyways except the war threads. and I do not want another one of those.
 
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All I see when people post scripture to prove their point is constant arguements. You don't always need scripture to talk about God, if it turns into a dead end then it turns into a dead end most threads do anyways except the war threads. and I do not want another one of those.
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I'm sorry, But I don't have anything to say that does not include scripture... ( its not about a point, its about getting to the Truth of what is written )

I'm sure many people will begin to surround you ( and other things; just a waste of time ) ; with opinions, as you give them occasion & opportunity. It leads to confusion ( they will tell you everything you want to hear ) . At least, consider reading, every scripture I posted there... But your going to have no shortage of company with your current approach ..
 
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