I have hurt God :(

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DiscipleDave

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That was Jesus. I'm talking about God.

Jesus is Jesus. God is God. When Jesus was being crucified. God was still in Heaven.

You cannot add anything to God and you cannot take anything away from Him.

You cannot "hurt" God. He does not feel pain like we do. Whether its physical or emotional. He knows the beginning from the end. He has already made His mind up on the outcome. Everything that is going to happen, He has already dealt with in His own mind.

Do you really think that you can hurt God? :)

No, Jesus is Gods Son. God is God. Jesus is Jesus, Gods Son. In essence, he was God only as far as He was the Son of God. But He is NOT God! In essence, you are your mom and pop. But you are not your mom and pop. You are you. And your mom is your mom and your pop is your pop.

But why are you asking me about whether Jesus felt physical pain during his tribulation when the topic on hand is whether we can hurt God or not "emotionally"?

I don't really know what the point is that you are trying to make to be honest bro.
Rudimental, The poster dcontroversal believes the doctrine that Jesus is the Father. That God in Heaven turned HImself into a man, walked the Earth, then went back to being the God in Heaven. {note: dcontroversal if this is NOT what you believe, please do not call me a liar and accuse me of sin, merely point out where i have made the error if this is in error and not what you believe}^i^ Responding to Post # 50
 
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A man was lame for 38 years in the Bible, waiting for the moving of the water so that He could be the first one in to be cured. Jesus healed him, and said "Go and sin no more, lest a worst thing come upon you" What a strange thing for the Son of God to say, if it were not possible to do. Would Jesus tell a person to do something that is IMPOSSIBLE to do? NO.

The broad and wide path is for those who continue to live in sin, and still think they are Heaven bound.

What does the Bible call those who "Can't cease from sin"? Cursed Children (II Peter 2:14)

So you continue to believe the false doctrine that you hold on to, and i will continue to believe the Truth which is NOT easy and a very difficult path that only a very few will FIND.

OH and do you know how i can tell if a person Truly WANTS to learn the Truth? They will read these two articles which the Scriptures PROVES we are to cease from sinning.

Keep on Sinning
Sin No More

Or do that which is easy, continue to believe what you believe and do not search the Scriptures for the Truth, you may just have to get rid of that sin that so easily besets you all the time, this generation can't have that.

There is NO sin that you do that you can't cease from, Therefore be prepared to answer for your own self, WHY you did not cease from a sin, that you could have ceased from, but choose not to.

No temptation is so Strong that you can't overcome it. and every temptation that comes upon you. Jesus allows a path out of that temptation. Be prepared to answer for yourself and explain to Jesus why you chose not to take His Path every single time you committed sin.

atwhatcost thinks nobody can abide in the Word of God perfectly, but Scriptures teach this

James 3:2 For in many things we offend all. If any man offend not in word, the same is a perfect man, and able also to bridle the whole body. (Control his/her flesh)

So it is possible, but only with the help of Jesus Christ, who gives His Strength and His Power to overcome EVERY temptation.

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Your guess is as good (or as ridiculous) as anyone else's on this board. And I don't put faith in guess-work. I know Jesus' nature and when He does something, it's done.

The worse thing that could come upon anyone is to put faith in anything or anyone else than Jesus Christ. And it would be Jesus' loving nature to say to the man, "Your faith in Me has healed you. Don't let nothing or anyone steal this from you."

Because people tend to do that. They try to figure out a system or a religious or scientific explanation for everything. In fact, you seem to be doing that in your post. Rather than seeing what a mighty miracle was given to that man by Jesus Christ, you wanna focus on "sinning". Good grief! :p

It is NOT my LORD's nature to say, "If you screw up in the future, I'm gonna take this healing away from you."
 
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Many folks here believe they can sin a little or on occasion and still be saved. They will say as long as you are not a murderer or a rapist, etc., then you are okay with God. They believe they can sin (or get away with certain sins) because all future sin is forgiven them. This is just evil and wrong. Nowhere does Jesus and his apostles ever allow for a person to live an ungodly or sinful lifestyle (Whether it be big or small). Many in the church today do not realize that 2 Timothy 3:1-9 is talking about them. For they have a form of Godliness but they deny the power thereof. They commit certain sins and think everything is okay with God. But it doesn't work like that. Jesus told us to repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Jesus defines repentance for us, too. Jesus says the Ninevtes will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If we were to look at Jonah chapter 3, we can see that the Ninevites had turned from their wicked ways as a part of their repentance. For even Paul says in 1 Timothy 6:3-4 that if any man teaches contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing. Jesus says if you sin, you are a slave to sin. In other words, someone who says you will always sin is denying the words of Jesus and the teachings of his apostles.
 
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DiscipleDave said



What is God to do with this wicked and perverse generation that is before His eyes?

Angela53510, KJV1611, dcontroveral, VioletReigns, and atwahtcost Since all of you have accused me of this sin of pride, i would like for any one of you to show where i have done such an evil thing. If you are going to accuse a brother of a particular sin, it would seem Godly to show that brother where they have done so. You accuse me of the sin of Pride which thing God hates. So then tell me where i have done such an evil wicked thing?

Did i say i have ceased from all those things on my own power, or through my own strength? No i have not said i ceased these things through my own self, i have ceased from those thing through the power and strength of the Lord Jesus Christ. i have not given myself the credit, that would be prideful. All of you have altogether ASSUMED something that is not True, but how easy it was for you to agree that it is pride on my part. Would it have been such a hard thing to merely ask me, if i was giving myself the credit, if i ceased those things on my own, then to accuse a brother of a grave sin as PRIDE?

All i was doing is trying to help the OP, and now am being accused of the sin of Pride, because i said that i have ceased many sinful things and may be able to help the OP with her sin. i am deeply hurt by all of you this day, i have wronged none of you, i have not accused any of you of any sin whatsoever, and you do this.

i forgive all of you, If you think i have committed the sin of Pride, then please reveal where i have done that, so i can repent of it. God Bless all of you. Pray for me, as i will be praying for you all.

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Hey bro, forgive me for judging you of the sin of pride. I don't see where I said that on this thread, but I wouldn't put it past me because I'm an inconsiderate ditz sometimes. So I am extremely sorry. I certainly don't like it when people do that to me.

I guess I wish you wouldn't be so doctrinally bound and would be more at rest in Jesus so we could actually fellowship like brother & sister, ya know?

*sigh*..................
 
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Your guess is as good (or as ridiculous) as anyone else's on this board. And I don't put faith in guess-work. I know Jesus' nature and when He does something, it's done.

The worse thing that could come upon anyone is to put faith in anything or anyone else than Jesus Christ. And it would be Jesus' loving nature to say to the man, "Your faith in Me has healed you. Don't let nothing or anyone steal this from you."

Because people tend to do that. They try to figure out a system or a religious or scientific explanation for everything. In fact, you seem to be doing that in your post. Rather than seeing what a mighty miracle was given to that man by Jesus Christ, you wanna focus on "sinning". Good grief! :p

It is NOT my LORD's nature to say, "If you screw up in the future, I'm gonna take this healing away from you."
Well, while I may not agree with Disciple Dave on certain things, I do agree with him on the topic of Biblical repentance. Turning from evil is a part of repentance. Jesus told people to repent. He even defined what repentance was for us so that there would be no mistake about it. See my recent post (Post #83). Anyways, the Bible tells us there is a certain way to get right with God if we do sin. John tells us in 1 John 2:1 for us to sin not. Meaning, we are not to sin. However, John says if we do sin, we have an advocate that we can go to named Jesus Christ. For John says, "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins...." John also says in 1 John 1:7 that if we walk in the light as he is in the light then the blood of Jesus Christ cleanses us of all sin. This means we are to confess and forsake sin. That is how one gets right with God and how they can be forgiven and cleansed of sin.
 
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Many folks here believe they can sin a little or on occasion and still be saved. They will say as long as you are not a murderer or a rapist, etc., then you are okay with God. They believe they can sin (or get away with certain sins) because all future sin is forgiven them. This is just evil and wrong. Nowhere does Jesus and his apostles ever allow for a person to live an ungodly or sinful lifestyle (Whether it be big or small). Many in the church today do not realize that 2 Timothy 3:1-9 is talking about them. For they have a form of Godliness but they deny the power thereof. They commit certain sins and think everything is okay with God. But it doesn't work like that. Jesus told us to repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand. Jesus defines repentance for us, too. Jesus says the Ninevtes will rise up in Judgment against this generation because they repented at the preaching of Jonah. If we were to look at Jonah chapter 3, we can see that the Ninevites had turned from their wicked ways as a part of their repentance. For even Paul says in 1 Timothy 6:3-4 that if any man teaches contrary to the words of Jesus Christ and the doctrine of Godliness is proud and knows nothing. Jesus says if you sin, you are a slave to sin. In other words, someone who says you will always sin is denying the words of Jesus and the teachings of his apostles.
I'm so tired of hearing you preach sin instead of Jesus Christ crucified that I'm placing you on ignore. It's just serving no purpose for you to constantly harp about carnality. Give it a rest, for Christ Jesus' sake. The JOY of the LORD is our strength. Not HELL and CONDEMNATION.
 

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The answer is in the Bible, as usual OP =). You said that no matter what you do, or how often you commit this sin, He is right there to bless you and love you. Yes! For the Bible says that "the kindness of God leads you to repentance". Rom 2:4

I was addicted to alcohol at a stage in my life. I quit several times. went 9 months even without but went back to it after a weak moment. No matte what I always relapsed. Never asking God to help, I thought I could do it on my own. I failed each and every time.

It wasn't until one night on January 12th, that I asked God to GIVE ME HIS STRENGTH did I stop drinking--the very next day. It happened! It was a supernatural healing and absolutely amazing.

I thought I dare not make a mockery of God's strength and go back drinking. To go back drinking would in essence be saying God is not strong enough to help me. God can do all, and so helping me with an addiction was NOT out of His strength. The urge was totally taken out of me to drink. ALL the temptations, which used to be so strong I couldn't handle it, were 100% and fully GONE. The next day I just breezed right on past the convenient store not even urged one bit to go in and grab some beer. I was so happy and felt so close to Him again. BACK in fellowship! :cool:

So my suggestion and prayer for you is to ask for HIS strength. You can't go wrong. If you rely on your own you will fail. But when you lean on and depend on HIS strength great things can and will be accomplished. But you must cry out and want it. If a part of you deep down wants to hold on to this sin you will keep doing it.

God Bless you and pray that He delivers you from this sin, I pray that God gives you HIS strength to conquer the sins in your life.

Depend on Him, Kat, it's the only way.
Praise God. What He has done for you in alcohol, He has done for me with cigarettes. i quit many times, i quit for my kids, failed, i quit for my wife, failed, i quit because i looked like a hypocrite preaching the Bible with a cigarette in my hand, failed, i tried to quit for my health, failed. i quit many times sometimes for up to a few months, Always failed. But the last time, i quit for God, i gave them to Him, i looked to Jesus for Strength and Power to overcome cigarettes, and like you, immediately the desire for cigarettes He took away from me, i have not smoked now for 15 years, and have no desire to ever smoke again. Jesus can give anyone His Strength and Power to OVERCOME any sin that you are committing on a normal basis, The problem is with this generation which believes they do not have to overcome those temptations, even though EVERY single message to the 7 churches in Revelation mentions to each one of them, to OVERCOME. but this generation believes in doctrines that do not teach to overcome your temptations, to overcome your sinning, this generation tickles the ears with teaching like it is OK to continue to live in sin and you still get to go to Heaven. Jesus is the Answer to overcome EVERY temptation. Those who are selfish will continue to live in sin, without ever ceasing from them, those who look to Jesus for help, will overcome EVERY temptation, because Jesus is POWER, Jesus is Strength, against all sin. But those who are selfish, will not seek Jesus for His Power and Strength, they will continue to live in their sins, and continue to believe they are Heaven bound, but it is not like they were not warned by the servants of Jesus Christ.

Praise God that He did this for you. God has not respect of persons, If Jesus can do it for Radius and He did it for me. He can most certainly take that sin that you continue to live in, and help you get rid of it, get it out of your life. But you choose.

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I'm so tired of hearing you preach sin instead of Jesus Christ crucified that I'm placing you on ignore. It's just serving no purpose for you to constantly harp about carnality. Give it a rest, for Christ Jesus' sake. The JOY of the LORD is our strength. Not HELL and CONDEMNATION.
Without repentance from sin, Jesus will not do a person any good. For Jesus told people to repent. A person has to express Godly sorrow over their sin and turn from their evil and wicked ways and ask Jesus to forgiven them in order to be forgiven. It doesn't make any sense to say one can still abide in their evil and wicked ways and still be forgiven. How does that work in the real world? Can a man cheat on his wife and not say he is not sorry and continue to cheat on her and then expect to still be in a marriage? I don't think so. God calls us to repent of sin.
 
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And repent we ALL do!....But I didn't join CC.....to validate this to anyone of flesh! Jesus loves me...and I live for Christ! I chose to write nearly two thousand poems for God in my time....a better way to spend time than defending my souls destination...to any man on CC...good day to you Jason.
 

DiscipleDave

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I think you should study more bro.....

The Father judgeth no MAN, but has committed all judgment unto the SON...

I saw the dead stand before GOD and the books were opened and the dead were judged out of those things written in the BOOKS.....

Since God has committed ALL JUDGMENT unto the SON and judges NO MAN....WHEN humanity STANDS BEFORE GOD to be judged they are standing before JESUS.......

To deny the diety of Jesus is to reject the truth about JESUS=LOST and on the way to a liquid deprived place with higher than normal temps!
Every thing you say here is True.

Jesus is God, this is True, because Jesus is ONE with God
Jesus is not the Father though, they are separate yet are they ONE.
The husband and the wife are separate, yet they too are ONE.

Look at your statement above
The Father judgeth no MAN, but has committed all judgment unto the SON...
This is True. The Father in Heaven does not Judge, Only the Son of that Father, Jesus Christ Judges. The Father, who is Spirit and no man has ever seen at any time, gave that responsibility to judge to His only begotten Son Jesus Christ. They are separate, and the statement "The Father judgeth no MAN, but has committed all judgement unto the SON" proves they are separate, the one does not judge, the other does judge. SEPARATE, yet they are ONE. The husband is separate from the wife, yet they are ONE. The Father and the Son and the Holy Ghost are separate from each other, yet they too are ONE.
Scriptures even teach we are ONE with them.

Joh 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, as we are. (Was Jesus lying here, or telling us the Truth, that Jesus refered to Himself and His Father as "WE" plural. you Hebrew and Greek fans look it up, it is still plural)

Joh 17:21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
(Do you believe the Father sent Jesus Christ, or that the Father became Jesus Christ? Believe the Scriptures not what men teach)
Joh 17:22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be ONE, even as WE are one:


Jesus said these things. Jesus said we Christians can be ONE with them, does that mean i am Jesus? God forbid. Does that mean i am the Father? God forbid. Just because we are ONE with them, does not mean we are all not separate, yet ONE. The Father and Jesus are ONE, so is the husband and wife, they are ONE also. The problem is satan convinces people in this generation that because it is said "The Father and Jesus are ONE" That means they are One and the same, Not separate. This is not Scriptural nor is it True and is a lie and a false doctrine. They are separate, the Father who judged no man, Jesus does judge men. The Father knows the day and the hour of the Rapture, Jesus does not know the day or the hour. No man has seen the Father at any (ANY) time, yet we have seen Jesus since Adam and eve, to this day. The Father is in Heaven, Jesus is that Fathers Son, Jesus is the offspring of that Father in Heaven. The Father has an only begotten son, and that Father called Him Jesus. Right now BOTH the Father and the Son are in Heaven, and the Holy Ghost is here with us on Earth. Both Father and Son are in Heaven, Both of them are ONE. Both husband and wife are in the house, Both are ONE. We, through the connection of the Holy Spirit are ONE with the Father AND the Son Jesus Christ.

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DiscipleDave

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It's not that I'm embarrassed to mention in publicly. I usually just refrain from getting too personal in my posts. My situation is with anger. I know God says to love our neighbors and treat them as Jesus would treat others. But every time a certain person gets me angry and does things that upset me, I can't help but act out.. Like I swear or say something bad and it's just hard to contain my anger. I feel God deserves more than that from me. Thanks for your reply by the way!
What the Lord has taught me concerning my anger.

i use to get angry quite a bit, whenever i felt hurt, jousted, belittled, made fun of, bullied, and the such. The Lord taught me four things to do to overcome my anger toward another.

1) Remember we are commanded to love one another, even our enemies. Even if they do not deserve it.
2) Jesus loves them and died for them. i try to remember that my Lord and Savior loves that person and gave His life for that person, and i should not be angry with a person that Jesus Loves and died for.
3) i feel sorry or pity for them, i realize that i should not take it personally, what they said or did, because they have some issues in their life that they are dealing with and just taking it out on me (whether true or not, is irrelevant)
4) if i do not forgive them, then my Father in Heaven will NOT forgive me of my sins.

its not easy, but with the help of Jesus Christ it can be done. At first it was difficult to try to remember those four things, but after a while, as soon as i am offended, these four things would pop up in my head, and remember them automatically now. Praise God, for He deserves all the Credit, i no longer get angry about anything at all.

Someone will make up a lie about me, and i get fired from my job. i don't get angry. i remember the four things above. i trust God He knows what He is doing and a better job awaits me (and there was). Seriously though, if you remember those four things above, and think on them when you feel anger creeping in, you will be able through the help of Jesus overcome anger issues.

Here is another great tip that has helped me much.
A person will be riding my car bumper, i can tell he is in a great hurry, when he has a chance he passes real fast, probably flipping me off or something. in my anger days i would think to myself, i hope a cop pulls him over and gives him a ticket, what an idiot. Now i think to myself, That guy might have just got a call from the hospital and his wife and child have been in an accident, and he is in a great hurry. So then i would say a prayer for that driver that i hope he makes it to where he is going without hurting himself or anyone else.
The Truth may be he is a jerk, but i choose to respond in a positive manner, i choose to believe the hospital theory, and therefore experience no anger at all.
Anyone who gets angry, chooses to do so. You can through Jesus Christ, choose to respond differently to the situation that usually will cause you to get angry.
The part above about the pity i would like to explain. it is better to feel pity for a person then to feel anger towards a person. Say a person is mean to me, i will think to myself, that person probably had a very unpleasant childhood, parent mean and angry to that person their whole life, and maybe think that person is going through something very bad right now and lashing out at people even me, i start to feel pity for that person, and have a desire to help that person, i will pray for that persons situation, and sometimes even ask them, what the real problem is? Sometimes i will even let people lash out at me, because i know it is healthy to vent and not hold in stuff, so i will just sit there and take it because i think it is helping them, and i believe it does, because usually after they are done, they apologize to me, and i will merely said i am glad that i was able to help. Realize everything is not about YOU. People who get angry easily (myself back then) takes things so personally, and 9 times out of ten, people are dealing with their own problems and are just lashing out, if you can remember that, you will not get angry near as much.
Whenever you feel anger coming on, analyze why you are getting angry, 9 times out of ten it will because YOU feel like YOU were mistreated or the such. Try taking YOU out of the equation, and you might be able to help the very person who is lashing out at you.
Also another bit of knowledge that is good to have, is many people who are going through a difficult situation will start up something with another who they know will get angry and fight with them. misery loves company. Since i do not get angry any more, i have found that friends that i have had in the past who are generally angry, do not like hanging around me any more, i just don't get angry like they do, and i think they don't like it.

i know if you remember those four things above whenever you get angry, you will get angry less and less, until one day, it is very hard for you to get angry at all, and they will say things like "i have never seen him/her anger ever" or you will hear things like " You can't make ______________ angry"
Just try to remember those four things, and see if it does not work for you as well.

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And repent we ALL do!....But I didn't join CC.....to validate this to anyone of flesh! Jesus loves me...and I live for Christ! I chose to write nearly two thousand poems for God in my time....a better way to spend time than defending my souls destination...to any man on CC...good day to you Jason.
I don't think you speak for everyone here when it comes to true Blbical repentance. Many here get upset at the idea of turning from sin entirely or that we should forsake it completely. Many here believe they will always sin on occasion in some way. But Jesus says if you sin, you are a slave to sin. Yet, believers today believe they can be a slave to sin and it's okay.

Unless your poems are gospel centered focused, God does not call us to write poems according to the New Testament. He calls us to preach the gospel and lead people to Jesus Christ. This involves true Biblical repentance. For a gospel that does not include true repentance is a false gospel or a sin and still be saved type belief (Which is wrong).
 
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I don't think you speak for everyone here when it comes to true Blbical repentance. Many here get upset at the idea of turning from sin entirely or that we should forsake it completely. Many here believe they will always sin on occasion in some way. But Jesus says if you sin, you are a slave to sin. Yet, believers today believe they can be a slave to sin and it's okay.

Unless your poems are gospel centered focused, God does not call us to write poems according to the New Testament. He calls us to preach the gospel and lead people to Jesus Christ. This involves true Biblical repentance. For a gospel that does not include true repentance is a false gospel or a sin and still be saved type belief (Which is wrong).
Are not the Psalms both poetic and spiritual in nature? How do you know specifically what God calls each individual to do? Perhaps skylove's poems lead people to Jesus Christ. She certainly has a way with words.
 
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Are not the Psalms both poetic and spiritual in nature? How do you know specifically what God calls each individual to do? Perhaps skylove's poems lead people to Jesus Christ. She certainly has a way with words.
The Psalms are inspired by God. God moved thru men of God to write them. Many of the Old Testament Psalms alluded to Jesus. But nowhere does God require us to write our own Psalms now. It's not that God forbids us in doing so. For we can surely write songs to glorify God. We can even write poems, too. But seeing we are under a New Covenant, our focus should always be Jesus Christ when we write, though. For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness. Our focus is in spreading the good news because we love God and other people. Our focus is in glorifying God and His Word and not our own handiwork. For God's Word is complete. We should lift up God's Word instead of our own words. In other words, if your poems are inspired by the Word of God and in spreading the message of salvation in Jesus Christ and you see good fruit as a result of such a thing, then by all means.... continue on. But nowhere is there a Command to write poems for God as being more important than telling others about the truth of the gospel and Biblical repentance. Unless I misunderstood what she said, he is saying that writing lots of poems is better than discussing about the defense of one's own soul with others here.
 
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One key element of the Pharisee spirit is to 'find fault with others', or someobody else's SIN.. they make it their Job to hunt down and condemn, those who are Moved by the Spirit of Grace... they truly believe they are doing God's Work.. but they are millions and millions of Miles away from His Presence.. indeed...

One Good example is when Jesus and His disciples sat down to eat and they did not wash their hands.. Immediately there were Pharisees and Scribes there, and they FOUND FAULT in that.. indeed.

Some on here FIT VERY NICELY into that 'mold'. .indeed! very very evident..
 

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And repent we ALL do!....But I didn't join CC.....to validate this to anyone of flesh! Jesus loves me...and I live for Christ! I chose to write nearly two thousand poems for God in my time....a better way to spend time than defending my souls destination...to any man on CC...good day to you Jason.
Sky,
None of the regulars pay much attention to what he says.

He makes things up. (like that poetry statement)
Then he teaches it.
 
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Sky,
None of the regulars pay much attention to what he says.

He makes things up. (like that poetry statement)
Then he teaches it.
Where does the New Testament command us to write poetry in preference of preaching the gospel and discussing the Truth of God's Word so as to lead men to repentance?

Granted, I am not against poetry or songs that are created for God. But that is not the only sole focus of our life as a Christian. Our focus is to love God and love others and tell them the good news about Jesus Christ (Which leads people to repent of their sins and to turn from their wicked ways).

She said she prefers writing poetry to God versus discussing the defense of one's soul. She said, I quote:

"I chose to write nearly two thousand poems for God in my time.... a better way to spend time than defending my souls destination.."

I am sorry. We as believers are in a spiritual battle. The moment I stop caring for others souls and be silent about their peril is the moment I have stopped being a Christian.
 
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I'm so tired of hearing you preach sin instead of Jesus Christ crucified that I'm placing you on ignore. It's just serving no purpose for you to constantly harp about carnality. Give it a rest, for Christ Jesus' sake. The JOY of the LORD is our strength. Not HELL and CONDEMNATION.
Using the same logic, you should ignore the Scriptures as well, for most of Scriptures speaks of Hell and condemnation. Jason is only trying to warn a generation that thinks a little bit of sinning is NOT OK. It is written a little bit a leaven will leaven the whole lump. It is also written a good tree does not produce any bad fruit. ANY bad fruit. So you may be ignoring the very person who is trying to help you. Usually people who have a problem with the sinning, are those who are not willing to cease from them.
Is it so wrong about teaching against sin to a carnal generation? i mean i would not teach against drinking alcohol to a group who never drank, now would i? So then it is only right and just to teach against sinning to a group who continue to live in sin, and use Jesus Christ as an excuse to continue to live in those sins. When Scriptures plainly teach whose sins are washed by HIs Blood.

1Jn 1:7 But IF (Conditional) we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

When does the Blood of Jesus Christ cleanseth us from all sin? Man teaches as soon as you get Saved, all your sins past, present, and future are forgiven, but Scriptures teach contrary to what men teach, Scriptures teach the blood of Jesus cleanseth us from all sin when we are walking in the light as Jesus did. Anyone who knowingly and willingly commits sin is NOT walking in the light, but in darkness, therefore not cleansed by His Blood. Seems to me, those who doubt that Truth, it would be in their best interest to study the Scriptures for themselves and see if these things are true or not, instead of hearkening to men and what they teach. Your Salvation is at stake here. You can either believe men and what they teach or believe the Scriptures and what they teach, the chose is yours to make.

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For even Paul made it clear that he cared about the condition of his own soul when he said....

"But I keep under my body, and bring it into subjection: lest that by any means, when I have preached to others, I myself should be a castaway."
 

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Where does the New Testament command us to write poetry in preference of preaching the gospel and discussing the Truth of God's Word so as to lead men to repentance?

Granted, I am not against poetry or songs that are created for God. But that is not the only sole focus of our life as a Christian. Our focus is to love God and love others and tell them the good news about Jesus Christ (Which leads people to repent of their sins and to turn from their wicked ways).
Do you even care that you upset a lot of good people here?

You may bring the greatest posts?....IDK?.......but have you ever considered it just might be all about your presentation? Your vibe?
You really believe God called you to debate OTHER Christians? All day?

There is a whole world out there that needs to hear it.
Why upset people who are already on their walk with the Lord, Jason?