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DavidLOVESsnow

DavidLOVESsnow

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So, I was searching through some topics on CC and I came across this verse:

[h=3]Galatians 5:19-21[/h]King James Version (KJV)

[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

So for all the bolded words, can I get a definition for each please? Mainly lasciviousness because the definitions I have found are all over the place. Any input is appreciated.

Disclaimer: PLEASE have proof of your definitions. Weblink is most appreciated to your definition.

Thank you again for taking the time to inform me on this. I always try to update my "rules" so to speak in my head.
 
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Karraster

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Answer: Lasciviousness refers to the practice of debauchery, lewdness, or licentiousness. In a word, to be lascivious is to be lustful. Lasciviousness, used six times only in the New Testament, comes from the Greek word aselgeia. Lasciviousness was condemned not only by Jesus, but also by Jude and the apostles Peter and Paul. Interestingly, the word lasciviousness is not used in the more modern Bible translations, but is found in the older versions such as the American Standard Version, Young’s Literal Translation, and the King James Version.

Read more: What is lasciviousness?It’s important to understand that those who indulge in lasciviousness are putting their souls in dire jeopardy. Paul makes this abundantly clear in his letter to the Galatians: “When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21, NLT).​
 
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phil112

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DavidLOVESsnow said:
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So for all the bolded words, can I get a definition for each please? ..............
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Go here and click on the "Show Strong's Numbers" box, then enter the verse number you want to look up and click GO!
 
DavidLOVESsnow

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Karraster said:
Answer: Lasciviousness refers to the practice of debauchery, lewdness, or licentiousness. In a word, to be lascivious is to be lustful. Lasciviousness, used six times only in the New Testament, comes from the Greek word aselgeia. Lasciviousness was condemned not only by Jesus, but also by Jude and the apostles Peter and Paul. Interestingly, the word lasciviousness is not used in the more modern Bible translations, but is found in the older versions such as the American Standard Version, Young’s Literal Translation, and the King James Version.

Read more: What is lasciviousness?It’s important to understand that those who indulge in lasciviousness are putting their souls in dire jeopardy. Paul makes this abundantly clear in his letter to the Galatians: “When you follow the desires of your sinful nature, the results are very clear: sexual immorality, impurity, lustful pleasures, idolatry, sorcery, hostility, quarreling, jealousy, outbursts of anger, selfish ambition, dissension, division, envy, drunkenness, wild parties, and other sins like these. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God” (Galatians 5:19-21, NLT).​
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I appreciate the input, but it wasnt a solid answer for me :/. I even have problems understanding what lust is. My honest understanding of lust is that sexual feeling toward someone aka why lusting after another women is adultery. However, I dont think lusting after your wife is bad. If you can expand your definition a little bit, it would be appreciated.
 
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phil112 said:
Go here and click on the "Show Strong's Numbers" box, then enter the verse number you want to look up and click GO!
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Thank you very much. Im going to check it our now. Will update on here if I got my answer :D
 
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phil112 said:
Go here and click on the "Show Strong's Numbers" box, then enter the verse number you want to look up and click GO!
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all I have to say is wow. This thing is AMAZING. I still have to find definitions used in the definition because it wasnt exactly clear, however at first I thought laciviousness [i think i spelt it right] meant to basically like your wife's body. Now im not too sure.
 
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Lust is about using something for your own means. It is never satisfied.
This is different from being sexually attracted to your wife and being loving towards her sexually.
 
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so from my understanding, would something like okay [WARNING, 18+ PLEASE TO READ THIS COMMENT OR DONT READ IT]..
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So would it be like that bondage stuff? Something that is sexual but unrestrained? Or like say, public sex or something... something that just isn't like "normal" so to speak. On that notion, would something like when your wife masturbates you, would that be laciviousness or no?


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If you skipped to this part because you are under 18, all is good now.
 
DavidLOVESsnow

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Hashe said:
Lust is about using something for your own means. It is never satisfied.
This is different from being sexually attracted to your wife and being loving towards her sexually.
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Ohh okay. That makes it mean a lot more sense to me now. So basically, if you were to "lust" after another women, it would be to crave her and never be satisfied until you are with her? Or... just explain. I just have problems because I get nervous because Im paranoid about checking another women out by accident. I just get EXTREMELY pressured because I dont want to fail >_<
 
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Hashe

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With your wife, it's not 'never satisfied until you are with her', but even after being with her, you aren't satisfied. There are many people who have sex with their wife, and then go and turn to porn, or something else. This isn't not being satisfied.

My understanding about looking at other women (not your wife) and lusting is the desire is the problem. I think you can look at someone and admire them, but lusting, or desiring her as your own possession is bad.
 
DavidLOVESsnow

DavidLOVESsnow

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Hashe said:
With your wife, it's not 'never satisfied until you are with her', but even after being with her, you aren't satisfied. There are many people who have sex with their wife, and then go and turn to porn, or something else. This isn't not being satisfied.

My understanding about looking at other women (not your wife) and lusting is the desire is the problem. I think you can look at someone and admire them, but lusting, or desiring her as your own possession is bad.
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Okay, thank you. I try not to even admire so to speak because it is almost like, in my opinion, being in a room with a bunch of people drinking and trying not to drink. That is just for me, if you can handle it, God bless you man on your resilience.

Pertaining to that sexual thing, that is very interesting and also very odd. How can people- you know what, I dont want to know how. All I know is, for me, that would be impossible. Not enough steam in me.

Lastly, I want to know your opinion on post #8. Do you care to share?
 
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Hashe said:
With your wife, it's not 'never satisfied until you are with her', but even after being with her, you aren't satisfied. There are many people who have sex with their wife, and then go and turn to porn, or something else. This isn't not being satisfied.

My understanding about looking at other women (not your wife) and lusting is the desire is the problem. I think you can look at someone and admire them, but lusting, or desiring her as your own possession is bad.
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Actually dont worry about answering the question I asked. I put it in another thread. Tyvm for all your help though :D
 
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Hashe

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Sex which is degrading is not good. Bondage is degrading.
There are many Christian books on sex. Christians don't have to be limited to the missionary position at home in bed.
 
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phil112

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Hashe said:
Lust is about using something for your own means. It is never satisfied.
This is different from being sexually attracted to your wife and being loving towards her sexually.
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DavidLOVESsnow, Hashe isn't quite right. Lust, like lasciviousness, is simply a carnal desire of a sexual nature. You can absolutely lust after your wife. That's how we get them in the first place. It is one of those things that has to be kept under control. "Let your moderation be known unto all men.", we are told.

What is okay, sexually, to do with your spouse? As long as you don't hurt each other and it isn't an unnatural act, then it is okay. It is between the two of you and never meant to bring out for public critique.
Hebrews 13:4 "Marriage is honourable in all, and the bed undefiled: but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge."
 
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