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God told this to Jeremiah in 29:11...
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
When these thoughts are communicated to us through the Spirit our response tells the Lord the condition of our heart. We either respond by faith and receive this from the Lord or we respond in the flesh and ignore these thoughts. Believers who live in condemnation and guilt because of sin have rejected or they are ignorant of those thoughts of peace that come through the cross (Col 1:20, Heb 13:20,21) because of their circumstances, their conscience or their doctrine or lack thereof. God is not able to get to know them in the way that He intended to, because they suffer from a lack of fellowship and communion through the grace and Spirit of God.
God never thinks evil towards us because God is love (1 Cor 13:5)... Charity doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil.
If I think evil of myself or others, God will not be able to know me and have intimate fellowship with me according to how He desires it. Read the following.
Psalm 78:34-41
34 When he slew them, then they sought him: and they returned and enquired early after God.
35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.
36 Nevertheless they did flatter him with their mouth, and they lied unto him with their tongues.
37 For their heart was not right with him, neither were they stedfast in his covenant.
38 But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath.
39 For he remembered that they were but flesh; a wind that passeth away, and cometh not again.
40 How oft did they provoke him in the wilderness, and grieve him in the desert!
41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
They limited and pained God over and over again at His heart because He was not able to do for them what He desired. Their heart was not right and God could not perform that which was in His heart toward them. He was limited from knowing them intimately. Yes, God had foreknowledge but foreknowledge is not intimate fellowship, or a back and forth relationship like Jesus had with His disciples.
The disciples could only get to know the Father through the Son and the Father, being in the Son, could only know the disciples through His Son. The Father gave the disciples to the Son so that He could get to know and have fellowship with them through His only begotten Son and the Son kept them in that fellowship. No man could come to the Father except through the Son for that was the desire of the Father because sin had to be destroyed. God so loved the world that He gave His Son so that those who believed upon the Son could have the fellowship of the Father unto everlasting life (John 3).
None of us would think that the Father did not know the Son intimately, for they were one. Is not this the very desire of our Lord that was expressed to the Father, that they might be one as we are one in (John 17:21-24)...
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
11 For I know the thoughts that I think toward you, saith the Lord, thoughts of peace, and not of evil, to give you an expected end.
When these thoughts are communicated to us through the Spirit our response tells the Lord the condition of our heart. We either respond by faith and receive this from the Lord or we respond in the flesh and ignore these thoughts. Believers who live in condemnation and guilt because of sin have rejected or they are ignorant of those thoughts of peace that come through the cross (Col 1:20, Heb 13:20,21) because of their circumstances, their conscience or their doctrine or lack thereof. God is not able to get to know them in the way that He intended to, because they suffer from a lack of fellowship and communion through the grace and Spirit of God.
God never thinks evil towards us because God is love (1 Cor 13:5)... Charity doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil.
If I think evil of myself or others, God will not be able to know me and have intimate fellowship with me according to how He desires it. Read the following.
Psalm 78:34-41
34 When he slew them, then they sought him: and they returned and enquired early after God.
35 And they remembered that God was their rock, and the high God their redeemer.
36 Nevertheless they did flatter him with their mouth, and they lied unto him with their tongues.
37 For their heart was not right with him, neither were they stedfast in his covenant.
38 But he, being full of compassion, forgave their iniquity, and destroyed them not: yea, many a time turned he his anger away, and did not stir up all his wrath.
39 For he remembered that they were but flesh; a wind that passeth away, and cometh not again.
40 How oft did they provoke him in the wilderness, and grieve him in the desert!
41 Yea, they turned back and tempted God, and limited the Holy One of Israel.
They limited and pained God over and over again at His heart because He was not able to do for them what He desired. Their heart was not right and God could not perform that which was in His heart toward them. He was limited from knowing them intimately. Yes, God had foreknowledge but foreknowledge is not intimate fellowship, or a back and forth relationship like Jesus had with His disciples.
The disciples could only get to know the Father through the Son and the Father, being in the Son, could only know the disciples through His Son. The Father gave the disciples to the Son so that He could get to know and have fellowship with them through His only begotten Son and the Son kept them in that fellowship. No man could come to the Father except through the Son for that was the desire of the Father because sin had to be destroyed. God so loved the world that He gave His Son so that those who believed upon the Son could have the fellowship of the Father unto everlasting life (John 3).
None of us would think that the Father did not know the Son intimately, for they were one. Is not this the very desire of our Lord that was expressed to the Father, that they might be one as we are one in (John 17:21-24)...
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.
22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:
23 I in them, and thou in me, that they may be made perfect in one; and that the world may know that thou hast sent me, and hast loved them, as thou hast loved me.
24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.
There's more than one Scripture where our Lord Jesus gave this particular warning:
Matt 7:22
22 Many will say to me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"
KJV
Matt 25:10-12
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, "Lord, Lord, open to us."
12 But he answered and said, "Verily I say unto you, I know you not."
KJV
Luke 13:24-28
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, "Lord, Lord, open unto us"; and he shall answer and say unto you, "I know you not whence ye are":
26 Then shall ye begin to say, "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets."
27 But he shall say, "I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
KJV
In the parable of the ten virgins, the five wise virgins had an extra vessel of the Oil to go with the Oil in their lamps, but the five foolish virgins did not. The Oil represents The Holy Spirit understanding, for our Lord Jesus told us The Holy Spirit Comforter would teach us all things (John 14:26).
That Message is especially about staying in God's Holy Writ, getting understanding by The Holy Spirit, because notice He shut the door on those who did have works in Him, like casting out devils in His Name, prophesying in His Name, and had done many wonderful works in His Name. (Matt.7:22).
So the spare vessel of the Oil is not just about having works in His Name. It's about having understanding so as to not be deceived, which only comes by understanding in His Word by The Holy Spirit.
Or didn't anyone get His Message in Revelation about Him only being able to open up the Seals? The Seals of Rev.6 are actually a quick summary of the seven signs for the end that He had covered in His Olivet Discourse of Matt.24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, the final 7th sign being that of His second coming.
Our Lord Jesus gave us the details of what is to occur all the way to the end of this present world up to the time of His return, and thereafter, how to recognize His enemies, what His enemies are to do in the last days just prior to His return, and He put that understanding in His Letter to us, yet many brethren instead put most of their trust in a Church system, a pastor, or even in works by The Holy Spirit, while never getting the spare vessel of Oil that only comes by study in all of His Word so as to not be deceived. Like Apostle Paul told Timothy, study to show thyself approved of God, a workman who need not be ashamed (2 Timothy 2:15).
Matt 7:22
22 Many will say to me in that day, "Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?"
KJV
Matt 25:10-12
10 And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came; and they that were ready went in with him to the marriage: and the door was shut.
11 Afterward came also the other virgins, saying, "Lord, Lord, open to us."
12 But he answered and said, "Verily I say unto you, I know you not."
KJV
Luke 13:24-28
24 Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.
25 When once the master of the house is risen up, and hath shut to the door, and ye begin to stand without, and to knock at the door, saying, "Lord, Lord, open unto us"; and he shall answer and say unto you, "I know you not whence ye are":
26 Then shall ye begin to say, "We have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets."
27 But he shall say, "I tell you, I know you not whence ye are; depart from me, all ye workers of iniquity."
28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves thrust out.
KJV
In the parable of the ten virgins, the five wise virgins had an extra vessel of the Oil to go with the Oil in their lamps, but the five foolish virgins did not. The Oil represents The Holy Spirit understanding, for our Lord Jesus told us The Holy Spirit Comforter would teach us all things (John 14:26).
That Message is especially about staying in God's Holy Writ, getting understanding by The Holy Spirit, because notice He shut the door on those who did have works in Him, like casting out devils in His Name, prophesying in His Name, and had done many wonderful works in His Name. (Matt.7:22).
So the spare vessel of the Oil is not just about having works in His Name. It's about having understanding so as to not be deceived, which only comes by understanding in His Word by The Holy Spirit.
Or didn't anyone get His Message in Revelation about Him only being able to open up the Seals? The Seals of Rev.6 are actually a quick summary of the seven signs for the end that He had covered in His Olivet Discourse of Matt.24, Mark 13, and Luke 21, the final 7th sign being that of His second coming.
Our Lord Jesus gave us the details of what is to occur all the way to the end of this present world up to the time of His return, and thereafter, how to recognize His enemies, what His enemies are to do in the last days just prior to His return, and He put that understanding in His Letter to us, yet many brethren instead put most of their trust in a Church system, a pastor, or even in works by The Holy Spirit, while never getting the spare vessel of Oil that only comes by study in all of His Word so as to not be deceived. Like Apostle Paul told Timothy, study to show thyself approved of God, a workman who need not be ashamed (2 Timothy 2:15).
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Some of you are getting off the beaten track. I started this thread because I wanted to find out what believers thought of God knowing us and his hearts desire to hav intimate fellowship with us. There is much in scripture about this but we rarely hear of it in the pulpit or in our conversation with one another. I am going to contend for the faith and say that the greatest reason that God ministers grace to us is so that He can get to know us and see what our capacity is to grow in grace and knowledge of His Son.
Jer 17:5-10
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.
8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Trusting in the Lord means that I let God get to know me and try me and search my heart. Whatever plan God uses to search my heart, even if He were to slay me, He will know whether I am trusting Him or not and whether He can trust me with the next thing that He puts in my way.
If I lean on my own understanding God knows that I can not be trusted in the path that He wants to lead me. Read Psalm 139...and here is (v.23,24)...
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
Jer 17:5-10
5 Thus saith the Lord; Cursed be the man that trusteth in man, and maketh flesh his arm, and whose heart departeth from the Lord.
6 For he shall be like the heath in the desert, and shall not see when good cometh; but shall inhabit the parched places in the wilderness, in a salt land and not inhabited.
7 Blessed is the man that trusteth in the Lord, and whose hope the Lord is.
8 For he shall be as a tree planted by the waters, and that spreadeth out her roots by the river, and shall not see when heat cometh, but her leaf shall be green; and shall not be careful in the year of drought, neither shall cease from yielding fruit.
9 The heart is deceitful above all things, and desperately wicked: who can know it?
10 I the Lord search the heart, I try the reins, even to give every man according to his ways, and according to the fruit of his doings.
Trusting in the Lord means that I let God get to know me and try me and search my heart. Whatever plan God uses to search my heart, even if He were to slay me, He will know whether I am trusting Him or not and whether He can trust me with the next thing that He puts in my way.
If I lean on my own understanding God knows that I can not be trusted in the path that He wants to lead me. Read Psalm 139...and here is (v.23,24)...
23 Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts:
24 And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting.
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I fail to see how obedience to Torah is legalism. The priesthood changed, we can only celebrate Passover not keep it..etc. blood sacrifices are no longer necessary.
As for your second sentence..I strongly disagree, unless you can prove it with scripture.
Matthew 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wondersto deceive, if possible, even the elect.
As for your second sentence..I strongly disagree, unless you can prove it with scripture.
Matthew 24:24 For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wondersto deceive, if possible, even the elect.
Exactly..those who attempt to enter based upon religion and religious works..like thise who mix faith and works as a means of salvation..like the liars who were trying to bewitch the Galatian brothers and sisters...saved by faith, but completed by works=false gospel of a different kind with no power to save and double cursed!
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See James.. Hearers NOT DOERS Claim to have faith but has no works.
See also Jude -[SUP]4 [/SUP]For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God[SUP][b][/SUP] and our Lord Jesus Christ. ~[SUP]12 [/SUP]These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about[SUP][c][/SUP] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; [SUP]13 [/SUP]raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
“Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [SUP]15 [/SUP]to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: [SUP]18 [/SUP]how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. [SUP]19 [/SUP]These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.[SUB][SUP]
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As for the law of moses? where did that come in? can't we have one thread where people do bnot have to bring the law into it? I did not even mention the law.
ps. if you want to celebrate Passover, feel free. (although I see no reason too. or benefit. But I guess if you want to be bound by laws. that's up to you.
As for me and mine, We celebrate the lords supper. We are not jews. Until we meet in heaven, And the Lord serves us as he promised.
See also Jude -[SUP]4 [/SUP]For certain men have crept in unnoticed, who long ago were marked out for this condemnation, ungodly men, who turn the grace of our God into lewdness and deny the only Lord God[SUP][b][/SUP] and our Lord Jesus Christ. ~[SUP]12 [/SUP]These are spots in your love feasts, while they feast with you without fear, serving only themselves. They are clouds without water, carried about[SUP][c][/SUP] by the winds; late autumn trees without fruit, twice dead, pulled up by the roots; [SUP]13 [/SUP]raging waves of the sea, foaming up their own shame; wandering stars for whom is reserved the blackness of darkness forever.
“Behold, the Lord comes with ten thousands of His saints, [SUP]15 [/SUP]to execute judgment on all, to convict all who are ungodly among them of all their ungodly deeds which they have committed in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.”
[SUP]16 [/SUP]These are grumblers, complainers, walking according to their own lusts; and they mouth great swelling words, flattering people to gain advantage. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But you, beloved, remember the words which were spoken before by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ: [SUP]18 [/SUP]how they told you that there would be mockers in the last time who would walk according to their own ungodly lusts. [SUP]19 [/SUP]These are sensual persons, who cause divisions, not having the Spirit.[SUB][SUP]
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As for the law of moses? where did that come in? can't we have one thread where people do bnot have to bring the law into it? I did not even mention the law.
ps. if you want to celebrate Passover, feel free. (although I see no reason too. or benefit. But I guess if you want to be bound by laws. that's up to you.
As for me and mine, We celebrate the lords supper. We are not jews. Until we meet in heaven, And the Lord serves us as he promised.
I believe that the following verse hits it on the nail head:
"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' "
In the Lord's example above, which is actually going to take place, their very answer gives away the reason why they will not enter into the kingdom of heaven "did we not," which demonstrates that they are trusting in their own works. The above is an example and you can insert whatever it is that a person is trusting in for salvation: Lord, Lord, did we not keep the Sabbath on Saturday and keep the ten commandments? The Lord will say "I never knew you" because they wern't trusting in him for salvation, but their own works and that by their own admission.
"Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?' "
In the Lord's example above, which is actually going to take place, their very answer gives away the reason why they will not enter into the kingdom of heaven "did we not," which demonstrates that they are trusting in their own works. The above is an example and you can insert whatever it is that a person is trusting in for salvation: Lord, Lord, did we not keep the Sabbath on Saturday and keep the ten commandments? The Lord will say "I never knew you" because they wern't trusting in him for salvation, but their own works and that by their own admission.
Isaiah: 63. 16. Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
Isaiah: 63. 16. For thou art our father, and Abraham hath not known us, and Israel hath been ignorant of us: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer, from everlasting is thy name.
Isaias: 63. 16. Sapagka't ikaw ay aming Ama, bagaman hindi kami kinilala ni Abraham, at hindi kami kilala ng Israel: ikaw, Oh Panginoon, ay aming Ama, aming Manunubos na mula sa walang pasimula ay siya mong pangalan.
Romans: 5. 10. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son; much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
11. And not only so; but also we glory in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received reconciliation.
12. Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
13. For until the law sin was in the world; but sin was not imputed, when the law was not.
14. But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come.
15. But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16. And not as it was by one sin, so also is the gift. For judgment indeed was by one unto condemnation; but grace is of many offences, unto justification.
17. For if by one man's offence death reigned through one; much more they who receive abundance of grace, and of the gift, and of justice, shall reign in life through one, Jesus Christ.
18. Therefore, as by the offence of one, unto all men to condemnation; so also by the justice of one, unto all men to justification of life.
19. For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just.
20. Now the law entered in, that sin might abound. And where sin abounded, grace did more abound.
21. That as sin hath reigned to death; so also grace might reign by justice unto life everlasting, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God bless us all
:ty:
Isaiah: 63. 16. For thou art our father, and Abraham hath not known us, and Israel hath been ignorant of us: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer, from everlasting is thy name.
Isaias: 63. 16. Sapagka't ikaw ay aming Ama, bagaman hindi kami kinilala ni Abraham, at hindi kami kilala ng Israel: ikaw, Oh Panginoon, ay aming Ama, aming Manunubos na mula sa walang pasimula ay siya mong pangalan.
Romans: 5. 10. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son; much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
11. And not only so; but also we glory in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received reconciliation.
12. Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
13. For until the law sin was in the world; but sin was not imputed, when the law was not.
14. But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come.
15. But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16. And not as it was by one sin, so also is the gift. For judgment indeed was by one unto condemnation; but grace is of many offences, unto justification.
17. For if by one man's offence death reigned through one; much more they who receive abundance of grace, and of the gift, and of justice, shall reign in life through one, Jesus Christ.
18. Therefore, as by the offence of one, unto all men to condemnation; so also by the justice of one, unto all men to justification of life.
19. For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just.
20. Now the law entered in, that sin might abound. And where sin abounded, grace did more abound.
21. That as sin hath reigned to death; so also grace might reign by justice unto life everlasting, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God bless us all
:ty:
1 Corinthians: 4. 15. For if you have ten thousand instructors in Christ, yet not many fathers. For in Christ Jesus, by the gospel, I have begotten you.
* :smoke: and were not even preachers nor pastors :rofl:
for we just want all to know the truth ABOVE WHICH IS (WHAT IS) WRITTEN :happy:
John: 18. 8. Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he. If therefore you seek me, let these go their way. 9. That the word might be fulfilled which he said: Of them whom thou hast given me, I have not lost any one.
John: 5. 44. How can you believe, who receive glory one from another: and the glory which is from God alone, you do not seek?
Isaiah: 63. 16. Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
Isaiah: 63. 16. For thou art our father, and Abraham hath not known us, and Israel hath been ignorant of us: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer, from everlasting is thy name.
Isaias: 63. 16. Sapagka't ikaw ay aming Ama, bagaman hindi kami kinilala ni Abraham, at hindi kami kilala ng Israel: ikaw, Oh Panginoon, ay aming Ama, aming Manunubos na mula sa walang pasimula ay siya mong pangalan.
Romans: 5. 10. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son; much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
11. And not only so; but also we glory in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received reconciliation.
12. Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
13. For until the law sin was in the world; but sin was not imputed, when the law was not.
14. But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come.
15. But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16. And not as it was by one sin, so also is the gift. For judgment indeed was by one unto condemnation; but grace is of many offences, unto justification.
17. For if by one man's offence death reigned through one; much more they who receive abundance of grace, and of the gift, and of justice, shall reign in life through one, Jesus Christ.
18. Therefore, as by the offence of one, unto all men to condemnation; so also by the justice of one, unto all men to justification of life.
19. For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just.
20. Now the law entered in, that sin might abound. And where sin abounded, grace did more abound.
21. That as sin hath reigned to death; so also grace might reign by justice unto life everlasting, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God bless us all
:ty:
* :smoke: and were not even preachers nor pastors :rofl:
for we just want all to know the truth ABOVE WHICH IS (WHAT IS) WRITTEN :happy:
John: 18. 8. Jesus answered, I have told you that I am he. If therefore you seek me, let these go their way. 9. That the word might be fulfilled which he said: Of them whom thou hast given me, I have not lost any one.
John: 5. 44. How can you believe, who receive glory one from another: and the glory which is from God alone, you do not seek?
Isaiah: 63. 16. Doubtless thou art our father, though Abraham be ignorant of us, and Israel acknowledge us not: thou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer; thy name is from everlasting.
Isaiah: 63. 16. For thou art our father, and Abraham hath not known us, and Israel hath been ignorant of us: thou, O Lord, art our father, our redeemer, from everlasting is thy name.
Isaias: 63. 16. Sapagka't ikaw ay aming Ama, bagaman hindi kami kinilala ni Abraham, at hindi kami kilala ng Israel: ikaw, Oh Panginoon, ay aming Ama, aming Manunubos na mula sa walang pasimula ay siya mong pangalan.
Romans: 5. 10. For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son; much more, being reconciled, shall we be saved by his life.
11. And not only so; but also we glory in God, through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received reconciliation.
12. Wherefore as by one man sin entered into this world, and by sin death; and so death passed upon all men, in whom all have sinned.
13. For until the law sin was in the world; but sin was not imputed, when the law was not.
14. But death reigned from Adam unto Moses, even over them also who have not sinned after the similitude of the transgression of Adam, who is a figure of him who was to come.
15. But not as the offence, so also the gift. For if by the offence of one, many died; much more the grace of God, and the gift, by the grace of one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
16. And not as it was by one sin, so also is the gift. For judgment indeed was by one unto condemnation; but grace is of many offences, unto justification.
17. For if by one man's offence death reigned through one; much more they who receive abundance of grace, and of the gift, and of justice, shall reign in life through one, Jesus Christ.
18. Therefore, as by the offence of one, unto all men to condemnation; so also by the justice of one, unto all men to justification of life.
19. For as by the disobedience of one man, many were made sinners; so also by the obedience of one, many shall be made just.
20. Now the law entered in, that sin might abound. And where sin abounded, grace did more abound.
21. That as sin hath reigned to death; so also grace might reign by justice unto life everlasting, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
God bless us all
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