I want to know if I have committed the unforgivable sin

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chesser

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A long while back, I was thinking about theology and the idea that other religions might be correct and whatnot, and during one particular conversation with myself(I forget how I got to this point)I thought " perhaps Jesus WAS using the power of the devil" I immediately put the thought out of my head and rebuked myself, but I am still afraid. Does this count as the unpardonable sin?
 
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chesser

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Could someone please give their thoughts?
 
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chesser

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I'm sorry if I seem needy by asking this but could you explain why? The Pharisees said that Jesus was acting by the Devils power, and I had such a thought. How is it different?
 

Magenta

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I'm sorry if I seem needy by asking this but could you explain why? The Pharisees said that Jesus was acting by the Devils power, and I had such a thought. How is it different?
It is different because you thought perhaps... you were not sure, you were over thinking the matter and that is not the equivalent to being face to face with Jesus, having witnessed His miracles and power, and accusing him of devilry/being in league with Satan. Did the Pharisees repent, or relent, in their attitude toward Jesus, or did they hound Him to the cross?
 

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I'm sorry if I seem needy by asking this but could you explain why? The Pharisees said that Jesus was acting by the Devils power, and I had such a thought. How is it different?
Because they were indignant about it, they hated Jesus, they didn't know who He was or who sent Him, He was a threat to them. They were blind guardians who thought they could see. They were sons of the devil, etc etc
You just had a passing thought that you captured and cast down.
 

Magenta

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Desiderata
Go placidly amid the noise and the haste,
and remember what peace there may be in silence.
As far as possible, without surrender,
be on good terms with all persons.

Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others,
even to the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.

Avoid loud and aggressive persons; they are vexatious
to the spirit. If you compare yourself with others,
you may become vain or bitter, for always
there will be greater and lesser persons than yourself.

Enjoy your achievements as well as your plans.
Keep interested in your own career, however humble;
it is a real possession in the changing fortunes of time.

Exercise caution in your business affairs, for the world is full of trickery.
But let this not blind you to what virtue there is;
many persons strive for high ideals,
and everywhere life is full of heroism.

Be yourself. Especially do not feign affection.
Neither be cynical about love; for in the face of all aridity and disenchantment,
it is as perennial as the grass.

Take kindly the counsel of the years,
gracefully surrendering the things of youth.

Nurture strength of spirit to shield you in sudden misfortune.
But do not distress yourself with dark imaginings.
Many fears are born of fatigue and loneliness.


Beyond a wholesome discipline, be gentle with yourself.
You are a child of the universe no less than the trees and the stars;
you have a right to be here.

And whether or not it is clear to you,
no doubt the universe is unfolding as it should.
Therefore be at peace with God,
whatever you conceive Him to be.

And whatever your labors and aspirations,
in the noisy confusion of life, keep peace in your soul.
With all its sham, drudgery and broken dreams,
it is still a beautiful world. Be cheerful. Strive to be happy.

©1927 Max Ehrmann
 
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No...the unforgivable sin is unbelief....the Pharisees were attributing the work of Jesus to the power of the devil instead of the Holy Spirit which is a permanent state of unbelief.......you must acknowledge the work of Christ as from God on your behalf to be forgiven.......some will argue this, but at the end of the day it is boiled down to unbelief!
 

JGIG

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I'm sorry if I seem needy by asking this but could you explain why? The Pharisees said that Jesus was acting by the Devils power, and I had such a thought. How is it different?
It's not about thoughts that enter your mind; it's about what you believe.

9 because, if you confess with your mouth that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For with the heart one believes and is justified, and with the mouth one confesses and is saved. 11 For the Scripture says, “Everyone who believes in him will not be put to shame.” (from Rom. 10)

23 And this is his commandment, that we believe in the name of his Son Jesus Christ and love one another, just as he has commanded us. 24 Whoever keeps his commandments abides in God, and God in him. And by this we know that he abides in us, by the Spirit whom he has given us. (from 1 Jn. 3)

The only thing that cannot be forgiven is the sin of unbelief in Christ.

-JGIG
 
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tanach

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If you are feeling worried and guilty about committing the unforgivable sin it is a sign that you havn't because if you really had you wouldn't care.
 

Budman

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If you are feeling worried and guilty about committing the unforgivable sin it is a sign that you havn't because if you really had you wouldn't care.


Exactly. Spot on.
 
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A long while back, I was thinking about theology and the idea that other religions might be correct and whatnot, and during one particular conversation with myself(I forget how I got to this point)I thought " perhaps Jesus WAS using the power of the devil" I immediately put the thought out of my head and rebuked myself, but I am still afraid. Does this count as the unpardonable sin?
IDK. Do you trust that God is the God of the Bible? Do you trust Jesus is that God? Do you trust Jesus is who he says he is? Do you trust enough to keep following?

Blasphemy is denying the true God until you die. You've never really said what you believe. You merely got scared when a thought hit your mind.

I've had that thought and then went with it out to its logical conclusion to dismiss it. You ran from it. So, I honestly don't know where you stand with God. I honestly don't need to know. Only you do.
 
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" I want to know if I have committed the unforgivable sin "

No, you haven't.
 
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A long while back, I was thinking about theology and the idea that other religions might be correct and whatnot, and during one particular conversation with myself(I forget how I got to this point)I thought " perhaps Jesus WAS using the power of the devil" I immediately put the thought out of my head and rebuked myself, but I am still afraid. Does this count as the unpardonable sin?
No, you would actually have to say that physically and not mentally. Blasphemy is when you speak bad words against the LORD.

For if you were to do a study on the topic of blasphemy in the Bible (Either by Googling it or by doing a keyword search at "BlueLetterBible.org"), you would see that the primary reference to "blasphemy" is in view of speaking badly against God.

So you can take comfort and be at peace in the LORD (if you have accepted him as your Savior).

For if you didn't speak bad words against the Holy Spirit or the works of the Holy Spirit in Christ's life, you are not in any danger. But ask God to protect you from having such future thoughts again (And He will help you). Sometimes these thoughts can come into a person's minds because it is a demon putting those thoughts in your head (Because it was something that would never want to think about). The best thing to do is just what you had done. Rebuke the bad thought and continue to believe and follow Jesus and His Word.

May you find comfort in what I had said.
And may God's love shine upon you.

With loving kindness to you in Christ,

Sincerely,

~ Jason.


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PennEd

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On a different thread, another poster described a frightening situation. He was witnessing and and preaching the Gospel to his Uncle who was in a sinful relationship with another man. The uncle accepted that there were sins HE thought were wrong and could see why God would be against them, but NOT the sin he was committing. The poster said he prayed for him often, but at one point he believes the Lord told him to stop praying for him. I don't know if this man reached the point where his heart was hardened and he would never accept Jesus, but to feel NO SHAME OVER SIN is a treacherous place to be.

Like others have said, if you are worried about it you probably didn't do it. Peace and Grace to you In Jesus name.
 

PennEd

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I should have included this verse: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Confess your sin and forget it.
 
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A long while back, I was thinking about theology and the idea that other religions might be correct and whatnot, and during one particular conversation with myself(I forget how I got to this point)I thought " perhaps Jesus WAS using the power of the devil" I immediately put the thought out of my head and rebuked myself, but I am still afraid. Does this count as the unpardonable sin?
You might be referring to this:

[31] Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.
[32] And whoever says a word against the Son of man will be forgiven; but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come. Matt 12:31-32 RSV

I think we all worry about this one a little. I don’t see how you committed that sin, though.
 
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atwhatcost

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I should have included this verse: If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

Confess your sin and forget it.
You do know many of the mafia confess their sins, right? I think it's a bit more than merely confessing sins.
 
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A long while back, I was thinking about theology and the idea that other religions might be correct and whatnot, and during one particular conversation with myself(I forget how I got to this point)I thought " perhaps Jesus WAS using the power of the devil" I immediately put the thought out of my head and rebuked myself, but I am still afraid. Does this count as the unpardonable sin?
Only when you accept you know good or evil fully will you commit the unpardonable sin.

Genesis 2:17
but you must not eat from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, for when you eat from it you will certainly die.”