If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles.

Laish · Dec 30, 2017

Also we could add this principle to the well put above.

2 Corinthians 9:6-7

The Cheerful Giver
6 The point is this: whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows bountifully[a] will also reap bountifully. 7 Each one must give as he has decided in his heart, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver.
Blessings
Bill

Nehemiah6 · Dec 30, 2017

Laish said:

Absolutely. If churches would teach on Christian LIBERALITY rather than Jewish tithing, some Christians at least would be giving 90% to the Lord and keeping 10% for living expenses. But by the same token, those churches would need to make sure that they did not squander Christian liberality on frivolous and inconsequential expenses (e.g. ornate church buildings) but applied the money to those needs which are clearly stated by Christ, and to assisting needy brothers and sisters in distress (whether locally or further away).

MattforJesus · Dec 30, 2017

trofimus said:

Mat 5:41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.

Compel can mean force or oblige someone to do something,or pressure,which it does not seem right force,but maybe pressure like,oh come on go with me,nagging at them,which because of that go the extra distance,or oblige like,you are my friend and if you cared about me you would walk with me.

The two miles is in reference that we go beyond how the world behaves,and that motivated by love that transcends the world's love.

That is why Jesus said if they hit you on one cheek,turn to them the other cheek.

And if they sue you in court,and take your coat,give them your cloke too.

And we are to love our enemies,and pray for them,bless them,and feed and clothe them.

We go beyond the world's love,and act out of love that the world would consider not justified,and a cut down to a person,for the saints get hit on the cheek,they turn the other cheek,where the world says oh you want to throw down,and the saints get sued and they take their coat,but they say here have my cloke also,which the world says,you expletive taking my coat,and the saints love their enemies,and feed and clothe them,where the world says trounce them,and put them down.

The saints attitude is do unto others as you would want done to you,and resist not evil,physical assault,so no matter how the world acts do to them good,for you want to be treated good.

But the world's attitude is do unto other as they do to you,and want revenge,harbor hate,and bitterness.

Go with him twain miles is like that,go the extra mile,for our love should transcend the world's love,but I do not believe it means force,but pressure,nagging someone to go with them,and because of their nagging,go with him for two miles,or oblige like,you are my friend if you cared about me you would walk with me.

Force in the sense of physical does not make sense,for if somebody forces a person to go with them,that person is only going so far,and what is the forced person supposed to say,oh could you please force me to go further.

BillG · Dec 30, 2017

trofimus said:

It's good to understand the context of the time. Jesus also took it further

Matthew 5:44-48 (NKJV)
44 But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you, 45 that you may be sons of your Father in heaven; for He makes His sun rise on the evil and on the good, and sends rain on the just and on the unjust. 46 For if you love those who love you, what reward have you? Do not even the tax collectors do the same? 47 And if you greet your brethren only, what do you do more than others? Do not even the tax collectors do so? 48 Therefore you shall be perfect, just as your Father in heaven is perfect.

To me that is part of the extra mile given its context.

However given that they are the teachings of Jesus when he walked the earth they are still relevant to us today.

I often wonder what would Jesus be saying today if he was with us in the flesh.
How would he relate his teachings in our day.

I know we l he is in us today but just curious if he was sat next to us on the flesh.

BillG · Dec 30, 2017

maxwel said:

Thanks for clearing that up.
So that's why you have to force a girl to go on a date with you?
So in fact she is indeed the nice one.

Don't worry, a few adjustments in you will help.

MessageOfTheCross · Dec 30, 2017

The idea was and is that the Believer was to have a good attitude and spirit, seeking to be helpful and kind at all times, even under the most adverse circumstances. This is what Christ was teaching and not the measurement of some distance, etc.. The entirety of the idea of the second mile has to do with the heart of man, not so much his outward actions, but which surely would guide his actions accordingly.

Out of 603,550 men who were readied for war that came out of Egypt under the power of God (Numbers 1:44-46), only two took their inheritance; Joshua (a type of Christ) and Caleb (a type of the body of Christ). Question? Why only two could go the second mile?

Nehemiah6 · Dec 30, 2017

MessageOfTheCross said:

The answers are always in Scripture:

Who through faith subdued kingdoms, wrought righteousness, obtained promises, stopped the mouths of lions, Quenched the violence of fire, escaped the edge of the sword, out of weakness were made strong, waxed valiant in fight, turned to flight the armies of the aliens. (Heb 11:33,34).

Waggles · Dec 30, 2017

22 Servants, obey in all things your masters according to the flesh;
not with eye service, as men pleasers; but in singleness of heart, fearing God:
23 And whatsoever ye do, do it heartily, as to the Lord, and not unto men;
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance:
for ye serve the Lord Christ.
Colossians 3:

dcontroversal · Dec 30, 2017

It pertained to a Roman soldier forcing one to carry his pack a mile.........

prove-all · Dec 30, 2017

The phrase "go the extra mile" comes from Jesus' sermon on the mount, where He says,
"If anyone forces you to go one mile, go with them two miles." (Matthew 5:41)

Roman soldiers back then could legally command citizens to carry their pack for a mile.
They had [mile markers] along side of the road on there trade routes.

Jesus used this as an example for "turn the other cheek" (verse 39).

BillG · Dec 30, 2017

MessageOfTheCross said:

Yes that's the attitude but the OP was asking about context of the day.
In the time of Jesus if was a measurement of distance.

We need to apply it to the context of our day

oldethennew · Dec 30, 2017

we think it is a matter of the 'heart', our Love for our fellow-man', our Love for Christ
and our fellow man...
servitude and honoring Christ at the same time, as His example to us all...

MarcR · Dec 30, 2017

trofimus said:

A Roman soldier was allowed to compel a civilian to carry his pack for a mile.

Mt 5:39-41
39 But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
40 And if any man will sue thee at the law, and take away thy coat, let him have thy cloke also.
41 And whosoever shall compel thee to go a mile, go with him twain.
KJV

These three verses illustrate a rabbinic teaching style called didactic hyperbole.

a principle is exaggerated to the point of absurdity to show its importance.

the principle is attempt to live peaceably.

v39 a slap on the cheek is usually more of a challenge to fight than a serious threat. Literally offering the other cheek might well taunt the challenger to violence instead of avoiding the fight
v40 People at the time wore 2 garments and parting with both would result in nudity.
v41 A Roman pack weighed more than 80 pounds (2.2kg/pound) most people would be hard put to carry one for a mile.

A Roman mile was 1000 paces or about 3000 feet. An English mile is 5280 ft. (three feet is slightly more than a meter)

20 · Jan 1, 2018

trofimus said:

Let is take a look on the Jesus ... KJVLuke24:27-29 27.And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself. 28.And they drew nigh unto the village, whither they went; and he made as though he would have gone further. 29.But they constrained him, saying, Abide with us; for it is toward evening, and the day is far spend. And he went in to tarry with them.

MessageOfTheCross · Jan 1, 2018

Going The Second Mile

In Romans 12:1-2 NIV, Paul gives what I call the anatomy of commitment:

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice Holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—His good, pleasing and perfect will.

Since everything we do is expressed through our bodies, Paul calls us to present our bodies as living sacrifices to God. The concept of a living sacrifice is interesting because it sounds like a contradiction.

In the mosaic system, a sacrifice was killed. Yet Paul wants us to remain alive. We are literally to be walking dead people. How is this possible? Paul's understanding of his own life helps us here when he says, "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." (Galatians 2:20 NIV)

If you were to ask Paul what his goals in life were, he would probably have said, 'I don't have any. Dead people don't set goals." If you were to ask him what his dreams were, he would have responded, "Dead people don't dream." But if you were to ask him what God's goals and dreams for him were, no doubt he could have talked all day long, because even though Paul was dead to himself, he was alive to God.

God's goals had become Paul's goals. God's desires had become Paul's desires. The only life he had was the life of Christ. This is why no one could intimidate this Brother.

You must be dead to yourself and alive to Christ. This is called a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. Which can only be done by the Beliver placing and maintaining their Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus. This allows the Holy Spirit a legal right to help you in every capacity...including dying to self, and the commandments of our Lord Jesus Christ.

If his enemies threated to kill him, he could say, "To die is gain." (Philippians 1:21) If they said, "No, we're going to let you live," he could answer, "That's fine, "to live is Christ."' (Philippians 1:21b) If they said, "We're going to whip you," he could say, "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us." (Romans 8:18)

If Paul died, he would go to be with Christ. If he lived, he would serve Christ. And if he suffered, he would get more reward from Christ. Therefore, since his whole life belonged to Christ, Paul's attitude was that it really did not matter what happened to him.

This kind of commitment is so important that Paul calls it our "spiritual act of worship." (Romans 12:1 NLT)

Pastor Tony Evans - JSM

Willie-T · Jan 1, 2018

20 said:

Not sure what you are trying to stress here. But, maybe a more readable version might help if you are getting hung-up on some specific wording.

Luke 24:27-29 GOD’S WORD Translation (GW)

27 Then he began with Moses’ Teachings and the Prophets to explain to them what was said about him throughout the Scriptures.
28 When they came near the village where they were going, Jesus acted as if he were going farther. 29 They urged him, “Stay with us! It’s getting late, and the day is almost over.” So he went to stay with them.

MessageOfTheCross · Jan 1, 2018

MessageOfTheCross said:

Going The Second Mile

In Romans 12:1-2 NIV, Paul gives what I call the anatomy of commitment:

Therefore, I urge you, brothers and sisters, in view of God’s mercy, to offer your bodies as a living sacrifice Holy and pleasing to God—this is your true and proper worship. Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—His good, pleasing and perfect will.

Since everything we do is expressed through our bodies, Paul calls us to present our bodies as living sacrifices to God. The concept of a living sacrifice is interesting because it sounds like a contradiction.

In the mosaic system, a sacrifice was killed. Yet Paul wants us to remain alive. We are literally to be walking dead people. How is this possible? Paul's understanding of his own life helps us here when he says, "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." (Galatians 2:20 NIV)

If you were to ask Paul what his goals in life were, he would probably have said, 'I don't have any. Dead people don't set goals." If you were to ask him what his dreams were, he would have responded, "Dead people don't dream." But if you were to ask him what God's goals and dreams for him were, no doubt he could have talked all day long, because even though Paul was dead to himself, he was alive to God.

God's goals had become Paul's goals. God's desires had become Paul's desires. The only life he had was the life of Christ. This is why no one could intimidate this Brother.

You must be dead to yourself and alive to Christ. This is called a living sacrifice, holy and pleasing to God. Which can only be done by the Beliver placing and maintaining their Faith exclusively in Christ and His Finished Work, i.e., The Cross, i.e., The Blood of Jesus. This allows the Holy Spirit a legal right to help you in every capacity...including dying to self, and the commandments of our Lord Jesus Christ.

If his enemies threated to kill him, he could say, "To die is gain." (Philippians 1:21) If they said, "No, we're going to let you live," he could answer, "That's fine, "to live is Christ."' (Philippians 1:21b) If they said, "We're going to whip you," he could say, "I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us." (Romans 8:18)

If Paul died, he would go to be with Christ. If he lived, he would serve Christ. And if he suffered, he would get more reward from Christ. Therefore, since his whole life belonged to Christ, Paul's attitude was that it really did not matter what happened to him.

This kind of commitment is so important that Paul calls it our "spiritual act of worship." (Romans 12:1 NLT)

Pastor Tony Evans - JSM

If you try to hang on to your life, you will lose it.But if you give up your life for my sake, you will save it (Matthew 16:25 NLT).

The reign – the rule – and the dominion of Christ as Lord and Master (Adonai) in your heart and your life must consume us. Your Kingdom come. Your will be done in earth as it is in Heaven.

oldethennew · Jan 1, 2018

it's a no brainer, when God calls/separates us from the world...

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