If it's not in the Bible is it relevant to our lives or true?

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JFSurvivor

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Peter, in post 11 you stated truth can be found in satan. How so?
What makes satan so dangerous is that he mixes a little truth in to the lie he tells you. I think that's what he meant.
 
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What makes satan so dangerous is that he mixes a little truth in to the lie he tells you. I think that's what he meant.
How do you know when politicians are lying?

Their lips are moving. ;)
 
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Jesus used parables (i.e. real world examples) to illustrate spiritual truth. The Canaanite woman (Who seeked to see her daughter healed of a devil) even used a parable so as to relate to what Jesus was saying (Matthew 15:21-28). In other words, various different doctrines or teachings in the Bible that are true can be illustrated by way of a real world example. If it's false doctrine, this is usually not the case.
 
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MarcR

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Look up "Mitochondrial Eve". Your second question is one of the largest causes of debate and division among Christians, and in many ways unresolved so I won't attempt to answer at any length (I'm far from being a Bible scholar or anything near it). All I will say is that firstly the "Bible", as we refer to it, is not a book. It is a collection of books, books from all varieties of literary genres; poetry, historical, prophetic, fictional, etc. Therefore not all parts of it are in any way intended to be scientifically or historically accurate, but simply speaking of a deeper spiritual truth.
We also need to approach the Bible with the eyes of faith, not with eyes of criticism. For me, one of the greatest ways to read the Bible is in light of the Gospel, i.e. to see the foreshadowing of Christ in the Old Testament. Not seen through the lens of Christ, the OT can certainly be a minefield of confusion. So before anything else, I would encourage the person to pray; to pray for faith and to pray for a real experience of Christ. "Ask and you shall receive". :)
With Christ in our hearts and the Spirit guiding us, the Bible takes on a new life, speaking not just of past events, but speaking into our own lives with real meaning and power.
We also need to read it with an awareness of the context; Who wrote what we are reading? Why? What was the world/circumstances they were living in at the time of writing? For whom were these things written?

Can we bend the Bible to meet the evidence? In some ways, we can, actually. For example, the seven days of creation. Most Christians would accept that God did not literally make the universe and everything in it in seven literal earth-days as we know them. It is just given as a relatable period of time. You could say "In the first period of time God created......". How far this can be taken however, is up for debate.

Most people know about the nuclei of cells and that the genetic inheritance from both parents are found in the nucleus. Humans have 46 chromosomes which they inherit from both their parents. Parts of both the DNA from the mother and father are put together in a recombination process that allows the children to have traits from both their mother and their Father.
However, there is DNA located in other parts of the cell. In the cytoplasm, organelles called mitochondria, which provide energy for the cell in the form of ATP, also have DNA. This DNA, however, does not seem to come from both parents. Instead, it comes only from the mother and not from the Father (There seems to be some rare exceptions to the rule that only the mother contributes the mitochondrial DNA. See the mitochondrial Clock Update: Is maternal mitochondrial inheritance still thought to be true?).
Initially, it was thought that for humans, most of the sperm remained outside of the egg. Only the head with the nuclear DNA and the centrosome, were thought to enter the egg. But that view has changed. Now it has been determined that the whole sperm enters the egg. However, virtually all of the sperm is broken down by enzymes. Only the chromosomes found in the head of the sperm in crystalline form are preserved and used in the recombination process to produce the final version of the new egg cell DNA. The sperm mitochondria and its DNA are broken down by enzymes made for that purpose. See the mitochondrial Clock Update: for details. However, the end result is still the same. The mitochondria and its DNA from the sperm are not used. Only the mitochondria from the egg are used for the newly developing person.
So, our mitochondrial DNA is essentially identical to that of our mother. Mitochondrial DNA is transfered from mother to daughter, generation after generation. The mitochondrial DNA in the son, which he got from his mother, is a dead end street, since his mitochondrial DNA will not be used in his children.


The Mitochondrial Eve: Have Scientists Found the Mother of Us All? MHRC
 

Joidevivre

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Marc, Marc, does your brain ever stop working? :rolleyes:

I'm still stuck mentally on the posting that said the sky isn't really blue. That is like telling a little child there is no Santa Claus. And what about the song "Blue Skies" - was that all really a lie?
 
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psychomom

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Marc, Marc, does your brain ever stop working? :rolleyes:

I'm still stuck mentally on the posting that said the sky isn't really blue. That is like telling a little child there is no Santa Claus. And what about the song "Blue Skies" - was that all really a lie?
it's Ella and everything :)

[video=youtube;epRXoS_P0lk]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epRXoS_P0lk[/video]
 

Joidevivre

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That's right Psychomom - Ella would not lie - no she would not!
 

mcubed

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I must say I love your questions. 1+1=2, 2+2=4, 4+4-8… is it true? Of course it is. What’s in the Bible is G-d is the G-d of all truth. John 16:13 - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth… I don’t know of any other book on the planet or ever on the plant that can be and should be taken more literal. The Bible says what it means and means what it says to the people in the time it was written to additionally it expands all time and its message is for today just as much as it was in its time it was written. Have you ever read about Deborah, Abigail, the 3 daughters of Steven that prophesied, the widow of Zarephath? Did Y-shua tell Mary of Magdalene to go and sin no more after forgiving her of her sin or tell the woman at the well I am He? If someone has to read between the lines they have not read enough of the Bible. G-d said let there be light and there was light. And then He on purpose spelled out creation, now there are people that want to re-read the Bible and even Christians and add millions, billions of years into there and say evolution is in the Bible and wrap it in the so called gap-theory. Which brings us back to your question, can we read things into the Bible can it be taken at face-value…
Let me tell you a story. There is a G-d that we all must answer to so He loved people so much that even though he created them he know they would fail at perfection so he created a man to take their place for the punishment and all they have to do is believe in him so they get a free pass.
Do you believe that is literal?
Well, you better believe all 66 books is literal or there is no sound reason to believe that story!!!!
 
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TwilightSparkle

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What makes satan so dangerous is that he mixes a little truth in to the lie he tells you. I think that's what he meant.
While Satan does weave in truth (however small it is) I say that because this ability of his it definitely makes him dangerous. In regards to relevancy, I feel that certain things in the world should be relevant to us even if its no in the bible per se. The bible is a guide for us to live in this world. And i also believe there is a fine line between this. I think if its not in the bible but it reflects biblical principles or ideologies then it should be viewed as relevant and POTENTIALLY applicable depending on what it is o course