If We Do Not Resist Temptation

[JaumeJ]

Temptation comes from the enemy, Satan. His tools are enticement with anything that he knows appeals to a person.

We are taught to resist temptation, and we all do our best to do just that.

When or if we fall to the enemy's guiles, we sin.

Sin only happens if a law is broken.

We who are in Messiah are not counted as guilty when we sin because the curse of the law, death, was crucified on the cross with Yeshua. We live and walk in grace because of the Blood of our Savior, Yeshua.

This all adds up to the spiritual reality that we must obey the laws governing morality and goodness.

The commandments of Yahweh are good.

All have a choice, obey the enemy and sin, or obey Yahweh.

The law is not dead, it is completed in Yeshua.

You will obey your Father if you love Him. You honor your earthly father with the same.

Teach obedience, it is the Way of Yeshua...........

 

[eminemjrxx]

wots mesiah yeshua and yehweh and wot do u meen by honor ur earthly father the same?

 

[JaumeJ]

Yeshua is the English rendition of the original name of Jesus, while Yahweh is the English rendition of the name given to Moses on the mountain. Yeshua may be translated as Salvation while Yahweh may be translated as Self-existing.
Now I am responding as though you are asking in all seriousness.
All children are supposed to honor both their father and their mother. It is the normal relationship between a child and parent for the majority of mankind, although in many cultures this is not followed.

wots mesiah yeshua and yehweh and wot do u meen by honor ur earthly father the same?

 

[eminemjrxx]

wot hapens if u dont honor ur parants?

 

[JaumeJ]

When one does not respect (honor) one's parents he or she has, in effect, separated himself from them, and this is a terrible thing to do.

 

[eminemjrxx]

is it posable for parants to seperate from ther child insted?

 

[JaumeJ]

This does occur, and it is very sad and hurtful. We are permitted to love them regardless as to how we have been treated by them. Love all, including our enemies. The Lord teaches us this.

is it posable for parants to seperate from ther child insted?

 

[eminemjrxx]

y do i hav to love them wen they dont love me

 

[tdrew777]

Temptation comes from the enemy, Satan. His tools are enticement with anything that he knows appeals to a person. We are taught to resist temptation, and we all do our best to do just that.
When or if we fall to the enemy's guiles, we sin.
Sin only happens if a law is broken.
We who are in Messiah are not counted as guilty when we sin because the curse of the law, death, was crucified on the cross with Yeshua. We live and walk in grace because of the Blood of our Savior, Yeshua.

This all adds up to the spiritual reality that we must obey the laws governing morality and goodness.
The commandments of Yahweh are good.
All have a choice, obey the enemy and sin, or obey Yahweh.
The law is not dead, it is completed in Yeshua.
You will obey your Father if you love Him. You honor your earthly father with the same.
Teach obedience, it is the Way of Yeshua...........

I agree with much, and disagree with much of the above...
Not all temptation is of the devil. We are tempted when we are carried away and enticed by our own lusts. There is a temptation that comes from within.

Not everyone is capable of choosing good. Those who are of the world can only choose between the lesser of multiple evils.

Sin existed before the law, and exists apart from the law. Therefore, sin can not be comprehensively defined as a breaking of the law.

But to the heart of my disagreements - We are sinners without making any evil choices. We are born that way (the pro-homosexual movement is right in this argument) - our evil is not of our own choosing. People will not be judged for choosing evil - evil IS THE NATURE we are all born with. People will be judged for loving their evil nature and despising the regenerated nature that is offered to each of us in Christ Jesus.
Believers have latitude in being able to be guided by the old, corrupt nature, or by the new, regenerated nature. Even believers are incapable of reforming the old nature. It must be crucified. The new, regenerated nature does not need to be taught obedience - it obeys from the heart, that is its nature. Believers need to put off the old nature and put on the new one. Calls to obedience will fall on incapable ears - those who refuse to put off the old nature are not able to obey until they put off AND put on. Obedience and holiness is our birth-right as believers in Christ. More than a duty to perform, it is a destiny to be lived out.

 

[JaumeJ]

What you say has to do with what Yeshua said about His not needing to be told about the hearts of man because He knew what is in the hearts of man.

This is how we are tempted by the enemy; he uses those cares and lusts we already have to entice us to go against what is always good, the will of Yahweh.

It is easy to see how this dialogue will develop into a circle, so please accept what I have to say more as rhetorical inspired by the Wörd than as something worthy of intense dialogue...Yahweh bless you.

I agree with much, and disagree with much of the above...
Not all temptation is of the devil. We are tempted when we are carried away and enticed by our own lusts. There is a temptation that comes from within.

Not everyone is capable of choosing good. Those who are of the world can only choose between the lesser of multiple evils.

Sin existed before the law, and exists apart from the law. Therefore, sin can not be comprehensively defined as a breaking of the law.

But to the heart of my disagreements - We are sinners without making any evil choices. We are born that way (the pro-homosexual movement is right in this argument) - our evil is not of our own choosing. People will not be judged for choosing evil - evil IS THE NATURE we are all born with. People will be judged for loving their evil nature and despising the regenerated nature that is offered to each of us in Christ Jesus.
Believers have latitude in being able to be guided by the old, corrupt nature, or by the new, regenerated nature. Even believers are incapable of reforming the old nature. It must be crucified. The new, regenerated nature does not need to be taught obedience - it obeys from the heart, that is its nature. Believers need to put off the old nature and put on the new one. Calls to obedience will fall on incapable ears - those who refuse to put off the old nature are not able to obey until they put off AND put on. Obedience and holiness is our birth-right as believers in Christ. More than a duty to perform, it is a destiny to be lived out.

 

[Kerry]

Baloney, we sin because we want to sin. lock stock and barrel. That is what we battle on a daily basis. Thank God for the cross.

 

[eminemjrxx]

wots the old and new nature?

 

[JaumeJ]

My understanding is fairly simple. We put on Yeshua instead of ourselves. Because He has covered the guilt of all our sin, past, present and future, we no longer need fear the curse of the law. We are free of all condemnation in Yeshua. This by no means is saying we are free to sin, simply because we are free of the law's curse. The curse of the law is the punishment that comes with it. We still may possibly sin, but the guilt of the sin is no longer held against us as long as we love, trust and believe Yeshua. If we break a commandment it is a sin, yet as long as we remain in Yeshua, the guilt of it is never held against us, therefore we live free of sin.

Never use this freedom as an excuse to sin habitually and intentionally, this will become unpardonable. Our duty is to try being as good as we are abel while always having the confidence in Yeshua that we are forgiven our short comings. Yahweh bless you always.

The old nature is wirhout Yeshua and in sin, the new nature is being as much like Yeshua with Him trusted as our Savior and living free of the guilt of sin...........

 

[loveme1]

Baloney, we sin because we want to sin. lock stock and barrel. That is what we battle on a daily basis. Thank God for the cross.

Surely no servant of GOD should want to sin, is it not that we should strive against sin?

If temptation comes our way, we should think of the suffering of our Messiah, the suffering of our GOD.

 

[Kerry]

So your talking about the cross. That's all I preach.

 

[Brother_Don]

1 Corinthians 10:13, There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it. 1Corinthians 10:21, Ye cannot drink the cup of the Lord, and the cup of devils: ye cannot be partakers of the Lords table, and of the table of devils. 1Corinthians 11:32, But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world. Hebrews 4:15, For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feelings of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. James 1:12-14 Blessed is the man that endureth temptation: for when he is tried, he shall receive the crown of life, which the Lord hath promised to them that love him. 13, Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man: 14, But every man is tempted when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.

 

[homwardbound]

Baloney, we sin because we want to sin. lock stock and barrel. That is what we battle on a daily basis. Thank God for the cross.

Oh Kerry, and I am seeing to edify me here more so than you or anyone else. Man had nothing to do with
God the Father's Salvation through Christ, but his own evil flesh that wants his own ways, man played right into the hands of God and still does do so to this very day

Kerry, why are you Brother still battling, what has already been done for you by Christ?
Colossians 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—

You do believe the above verse yes? How can you ever improve on what is from God. or anyone else for that matter?
I am not a forgetful hearer, and am appreciative entering his courts now with thanksgiving and praise.
Do we agree to this truth. Or do we need to read Galatians over again.
[h=3]Galatians 3[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[h=3]Faith or Works of the Law[/h]3 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. [SUP]2[/SUP]I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard?[SUP]3 [/SUP]Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh? [SUP]4 [/SUP]Have you experienced so much in vain—if it really was in vain? [SUP]5 [/SUP]So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? [SUP]6 [/SUP]So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”

 

[homwardbound]

wots the old and new nature?

First born here on earth in human form, known as born of the flesh.
Then when one comes to belief in God's Love, Mercy, God rebirth's the believer to being alive in God's Spirit.

[h=3]John 3[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

3 [SUP]1-2 [/SUP]After dark one night a Jewish religious leader named Nicodemus, a member of the sect of the Pharisees, came for an interview with Jesus. “Sir,” he said, “we all know that God has sent you to teach us. Your miracles are proof enough of this.”
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “With all the earnestness I possess I tell you this: Unless you are born again, you can never get into the Kingdom of God.”
[SUP]4 [/SUP]“Born again!” exclaimed Nicodemus. “What do you mean? How can an old man go back into his mother’s womb and be born again?”
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Jesus replied, “What I am telling you so earnestly is this: Unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God. [SUP]6 [/SUP]Men can only reproduce human life, but the Holy Spirit gives new life from heaven; [SUP]7 [/SUP]so don’t be surprised at my statement that you must be born again! [SUP]8 [/SUP]Just as you can hear the wind but can’t tell where it comes from or where it will go next, so it is with the Spirit. We do not know on whom he will next bestow this life from heaven.”

You read on yourself asking God to reveal the truth here to you, Only gopd can truly answer this ? of yours and will, if you believe God to be real

 

[homwardbound]

Surely no servant of GOD should want to sin, is it not that we should strive against sin?

If temptation comes our way, we should think of the suffering of our Messiah, the suffering of our GOD.

Just maybe then re-die to self with Christ back at the cross, were it is all finished at, maybe?
[h=3]Philippians 3:10-11[/h]Living Bible (TLB)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now I have given up everything else—I have found it to be the only way to really know Christ and to experience the mighty power that brought him back to life again, and to find out what it means to suffer and to die with him. [SUP]11 [/SUP]So whatever it takes, I will be one who lives in the fresh newness of life of those who are alive from the dead.

 

[homwardbound]

So your talking about the cross. That's all I preach.

So then death to flesh and alive to God's Spirit living in and through us
Acts 10:13 And there came a voice to him, Rise, Peter; kill, and eat.

I think it starts with seeing ourselves dead to flesh, by god's Son's sacrifice at his death where we are made holy by this, then we can and are presented to God the Father, for new life being already made Holy, Father can now complete his task to re-birth us in the Spirit, what Adam and Eve failed to do in eating from that tree that brought death to all mankind, and why it is quite important to be born again, what Christ came to do, give us life in the Spirit, and is only done through the cross.
As you already well know