If you believe in OSAS, please answer a few questions for me.

[PennEd]

Jason, I was going to attempt to answer every one of your OP questions and I prayed to the Lord to tell me how to address each one. But instead I am made aware that all of your questions are focused on sin. In fact, you seem obsessed with man falling short of God’s glory.

I perceive that in truth you are questioning not the people on this board, but the grace of God. You wouldn’t spend so much time aggressively disputing OSAS day after day, thread after thread, if you actually believed what you are proclaiming about it. You pursue this thing like a man who finds no rest. It’s a constant nagging question to you and the only way you know how to deal with it is to wrestle against it.

Your deeper question is, “Lord, how can Your grace be that faithful?” You are unsettled in your own heart because you don’t understand it in your carnal mind. You haven’t surrendered your own understanding to the reality that is the grace of Jesus Christ. Jesus reigns forever in His people and nobody or nothing can undo that. Only the Spirit of God can make a man see that, it’s spiritual understanding. It’s impossible for anyone to understand spiritual things with mere intellect. You know that, right?

If OSAS is true, all of your efforts to dispute it have been in vain. If the grace of Jesus Christ can truly secure a man in the grip of God, if a man can’t free himself from the power of God’s eternal grasp, you are fighting against the truth. You don’t want to admit that. But the grace of Christ can make you free to see it if you will admit to the Father that you are in doubt of His grace and that you want to see.

Jason, if I followed you around for one day and was able to read all of your thoughts, how many times would you feel ashamed? How many times would you feel you had fallen short of righteousness? Can you honestly state that you feel you never miss the mark or that your thoughts are always pure and holy? If I watched you all day, could you say that every single act you commit would be holy?

And yet, Jesus wouldn’t condemn you not even once, wouldn’t be disappointed in you ever, would never be angry at you, never give up on you, would continue to guide you, help you, protect you, teach you, meet your every need, conforming you, blessing you, encouraging you, interceding for you, loving you… He will never stop. Not even if your thoughts stray or you err in some way. He’s not a judge, He’s your Friend. That’s grace. It’s God’s unfailing love.

I pray in Jesus’ name the Holy Spirit speak to you with this Word: John 3:1-15

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Wow! I literally just now finished up reading Acts 6 and 7. Your post reminds me of the Holy Spirit filled speech Stephen gave before the counsel. I pray it Blesses all who read it!

 

[WoundedWarrior]

Do you even listen to the words that come out of your mouth?

Do you?

Love,
-WW

 

[VioletReigns]

If Jason has me on ignore (which I can't blame him if he did as I went head to head with him previously) I hope someone will reply with my quote so that he can at least read my message. I do love Jason, he's my brother. Thanks!

 

[WoundedWarrior]

If Jason has me on ignore (which I can't blame him if he did as I went head to head with him previously) I hope someone will reply with my quote so that he can at least read my message. I do love Jason, he's my brother. Thanks!

If he replies and you are unable to read, I will help.

Blessings,
-WW

 

[VioletReigns]

If he replies and you are unable to read, I will help.

Blessings,
-WW

I don't have Jason on ignore. Thank you, brother WoundedWarrior!

 

[DiscipleDave]

Originally Posted by DiscipleDave

One Question you failed to ask, which i believe is the most evident question that proves OSAS can't possibly be True is:

If once you are Saved, your name is written in the Book of Life and can't never be removed, why are there Scriptures which plainly teach a persons name can be removed from the Book of Life?


The mere fact that Scriptures teach a name once written in the Book of Life, can be blotted out of it. is ABSOLUTE PROOF, that Once Saved Always Saved, can't possibly be True.

Same line of questioning would be. Is it True once you are SAVED, your name is written in the Book of Life? Most know the answer to be TRUE. Then ask those who believe OSAS to explain how a person is blotted out of the Book of Life, ask them "Wasn't that persons name written in the Book prior, wasn't that person SAVED, thereby being written in the Book of Life, how then are they now blotted out of it?

People have been wearing those blinders for so long, they don't know the Truth, nor are they willing to learn the Truth, they are so use to the blinders.

Responding to OP

There are two books, the book of life, which every person conceived is entered in that book, being given life by God. Secondly, those who have been redeemed by the blood of the Lamb have their names written in the Lamb's book of life.

You do error not understanding the Scriptures nor having been told this by the Holy Spirit of God. There is only ONE Book of Life, which the names of all those who are Saved is written. The other Book is called the Book of Remembrance, which is the book that records all life, and all their actions, thoughts, deeds, EVERYTHING.

The unsaved are not written in the Book of Life. The Book of Life does not hold the names of those who are considered DEAD. You do error adding your own thoughts and interpretation and beliefs by saying the Book of Life holds everyone's names. Now the Book of Remembrance does hold the names of EVERYONE, the saved and the unsaved alike, When a person is born, that soul is in the Book of Remembrance, all that souls deeds, thoughts, desires, actions, everything is recorded in that Book. When that soul accepts Jesus and repents and becomes SAVED, it is ONLY then that persons name is written in the Book of Life. LIFE =Those who live= Eternal LIFE. You do error teaching that false doctrine.

Blotting of the name can only take place in the book of life and not the Lamb's book of life.

Can you show Scriptures that teach the Book of Life is different than the Lamb's Book of life, or is that your opinion? Also you say there is a Book of Life, and yet another Book of Life, one beings that of Jesus, So whose does the other Book of Life belong too? i will tell you the Truth There is only ONE Book of Life, and that is the Lambs Book of Life. There is only ONE Book of Life that holds the names of the SAVED in it.

Those blotted out of the book of life can not be written back in and are part of the second death.

Where is that written that a person blotted out, can't have mercy from God to be added back in? Is this also your opinion?

Those who remain in the book of life and those written in the Lamb's book of life are God's righteousness and will not be judged and condemned with the unjust and unrighteous.

Everyone is Judged. Nobody will escape Judgment, again you do error.

For those whose names have been blotted out of the book of life, they were never saved or redeemed and it would have been better for them that they had never been conceived and born into this life.

You are witness against yourself that you do not understand the Truth in this matter. Scriptures are quite clear that when a person gets SAVED, their name is written in the Book of Life. You say those who have been blotted out of the Book of Life, were never Saved. Scriptures teach you name is written in the Book of Life when you are Saved. So tell me how can a name be written in the Book of Life, if they never accept Jesus as their Savior and Lord? According to you then. There is only one Book of Life. The teaching that there are more than one is to teach false doctrines, deceiving the sheep of Jesus Christ.

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