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IN GOD!
It seems like people think they will only enter into God’s Kingdom, when they had their physical death. Is this what the Bible teach? NOPE! What does the Bible say… When do we enter into God’s KINGDOM.

Well here is what the Bible say…. John 18:35… My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.
God’s servants does not fight because they like the kingdom of God I not of this world. Jesus is not of this world, because he is of the Kingdom of God, so what about God’s men here on earth (God refers to them as HIS servants. Are they ALSO from His Kingdom, and NOT of this world?

Jesus said… John 17… I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.


Because young people might also read this, I will just make sure they understand what Jesus says here…. Jesus says if a person is not born again he CANNOT enter into the Kingdom of God… Now MANY think they will enter into that HOLY PLACE only AFTER they died! Gave up the spirit, kicked the bucket, they talk about the physical death… Oh they may use many verses and say FLESH cannot enter into the kingdm of God, but they refrain from saying GOD’S KINGDOM CAN ENTER INTO THE FLESH…And let me just assure young and old, if God’s Kingdom did NOT enter your flesh, you will NEVER enter into God’s Kingdom…. You as spirit and soul, with a NEW CELESTIAL body…

But here is the mystery so many do not get…. The soul and spirit that makes you a person in a fleshly vessel, IS COMPLETELY FROM THE KINGDOM OF GOD… Even in you TERRESTIAL HOLY BODY. Just because the vessel is made of flesh, THAT WILL NEVER ENTER INTO GOD’S HEAVENLY Kingdom, Even that flesh that USED TO SIN, will be made 100% obedient to the kingdom of God, by the SPIRIT in the flesh that is NOT OF THIS WORLD.

Let me put it so all can understand… When the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD IS IN FLESH, like He was FIRST in Jesus, the flesh that has the HOLY SPIRIT OF GOD in him or her, CAN ONLY DO WHAT THE SPIRIT TELLS IT TO DO! The flesh does what the spirit tells it to do. The spirit gives the wish of the spirit to the soul and the soul satify itself with what the spirit requested… If the spirit concieve sin, then the flesh would sin. IF the Spirit is God’s Holy Spirit, the flesh CANNOT sin because God’s Spirit CANNOT concieve sin.

If Jesus says that the people of God is just as Him NOT of this world, it means JUST LIKE HIM, they can only do KINGDOM! Holy Kingdom… And now we will see how this is obtained…

God says… Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able.

We should strive to enter in at a gate where not many shall be able too. But what is thie menaing of this? WE should strive to enter… through the strait gate…. Why? Why would we want to go through? What is on the other side of this gate? Does God say what is on the other side? So what is on the other side? Without even telling a single person we know….. FATHER GOD AND HIS KINGDOM IS ON THE OTHER SIDE…

So if I do manage to enter through to the other side, then I am ALSO one of these that are NOT OF THIS WORLD. We have to look a bit deeper to understand what happens if a person go through to the other side, and why others are not able too…

So let us first see why MANY cannot enter… God says IN HIM IS NO SIN… So on the other side IS NO SIN. When I stand at the gate, and I strive to enter in, but I still have sin IN ME, will I be able to pass through with that sin in me? If that was possible, then God has to remove this verse from the Bible…1 John 5:3…. AND IN HIM IS NO SIN… So how does God ensure that if he saves a sinner that the sinner would not carry sin INTO HIM…. By the first part of the verse…. And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.


WOW! Jesus was manifest to TAKE AWAY OUR SIN… not only PAY for them, but TAKE THEM AWAY…WOW!!!! Now that is a God that can DO THINGS…This is how God deals with sin in a sinner… God makes him as pure as HE IS, and then GOD makes him ABLE to enter. WOW! God really does all this for us.

So for us to be IN GOD, GOD has to prepare us for the adoption, for the ENTRANCE, for the PASSING THROUGH THE GATE… And there is a LOVELY parable that God gave us how it works to enter into the Kingdom of God, To ENTER INTO GOD… It is one in John 10 about a sheepfold (God’s Kingdom) with sheep (God’s children), a Shepard (God’s Holy Spirit) and a DOOR (strait gate/Jesus) and a porter (gate keeper / door keeper / YOUR CONSCIENCE) where the shepard works…

Let me share how I believe about the PORTER … There is no person that does not have a coscience… and the Holy Spirit of God is the One who reproof us of sin IN OUR COSCIENCE, on the HEART… God said the Spirit will reproof the WORLD of sin… Even when we are NOT THROUGH THE GATE, the HOLY SPIRIT STILL WORK ON US… But because HE CONVINCE US OF SIN, WE CANNOT ENTER INTO THE DOOR!

It is our DIRTY CONSCIENCE that makes us UNABLE to PASS through the GATE (Jesus) We have to REPENT before we can enter…. And so many say WE CANNOT REPENT FROM ALL SIN… what a load of rubbish… What sin is more powerful that GOD? NONE! So do not make the flesh more poerful than God, do not belittle God with sin, or a sinning nature.. God has a HOLY NATURE that can beat ANY sinning nature and ALL SINNING nature,,, Thank God that HE IS ALMIGHTY and not SIN!

To be IN GOD, is to be IN HOLINESS and IN ALMIGHTY GOD… AND IN HIM IS STILL NO SIN!

Be blessed and BELIEVE GOD, FOR HIM ALLTHINGS ARE POSSIBLE… Mat 19:26.
 
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Cobus, so you can't enter then.
Because you have sin.
What? You don't?
O.K.
Do you lust?
Do you commit adultery in your mind? - Well Jesus clearly said that if a man even thinks on a woman with lust he has committed adultery already.
What? You don't?
Also, if a man ever is offended by his brother, and calls his brother racca(fool) in his mind, he is in danger of hellfire.

Are you guilty of any of these things? No?
If not,
Have you already been glorified?

Cobus, either you will accept the gift of the perfect life and obedient death of Jesus Christ or you will end up in a straight jacket.

What I am saying is,.....either you will accept the atonement through faith or you will continue to try to save yourself.

Now....here comes the accusations of living to sin......but alas, sanctification will not allow that.
According to I Cor. 1:30 sanctification follows-(DOES NOT PRECEDE) all those that believe in the risen savior,....who is Jesus the Christ.

And when does glorification come? Now or in heaven. (Please read)
 
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Hallo Ricky my friend... Thank you I will do 1 Cor 1:30 with you but et me just answer your questions...

Do I lust... NO, what for? God says if we let patience have her perfect work we will be perfect and entire, WANTING NOTHING... And do I even ONCE commit adutery in my mind, No not even ONCE, I did thousands of times BEFORE God TOOK AWAY that sin... Adultery is as as far removed from me as the EAST is from the WEST... If God TAKES IT AWAY it is TAKEN AWAY... not taken then given then taken then given...

What part of TAKEN AWAY our sin do you NOT undertand... And did Jesus give us His Glory or not, HE reckon HE DID...
John 17... verse 22.... And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

So I guess we have to make up our minds DID JESUS GIVE US HIS GLORY OR NOT... I think He said he did, so would I believe it OR NOT!

Ricky will you and I EVER be one if Jesus does not give HIS GLORY to us? NEVER! We need HIS GLORY TO BE ONE! AS ONE AS HE AND FATHER IS ONE... ALSO ONE WITH THEM!!! WOW! How can we be ONE with God WITHOUT HIM GIVING US GLORY?

Ricky you have to read John 17 FIRST then we can do 1 Cor 30. So when you read it and still do not see the perfect relationship between Cor and John 17... then we can Pray God to show us... OK my friend. read John 17 with God as your REVELATION MASTER.... I pray HE will show you... ONENESS!!! then 1 Cor 1 just FALLS into place...
 
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I have read John 17.
"That they may be one as we are one",...."I pray not for the world, but for those that you have given me"....Also, "I will send you a comforter, that you will not be alone."

Cobus, if you are perfect, what is the comforter for?
The Holy Spirit made you perfect? Is that your claim?
You are not perfect. The man who says he has no sin deceives himself.
So you have been glorified? Is that your claim?
Fly over here and catch me up then.
 
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If the COMFORTER did not LEAD and ENCOURAGE us we would NEVER have got close to the GATE... Did he not say HE WILL TEACH US ALL THINGS? So it looks like the TEACHING does not happen in a hurry, but then when the TEACHING is done, do you think this people are FREE? Jesus said... You shall know hte TRUTH and the TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE...

Ricky the comforter is the TEACHER but when the PUPOL KNOW THE TRUTH HE IS MADE FREE... FREE FROM WHAT RICKY? I bet sin is ONE of the things they are made free from.

Ricky are these people perfect? ...Eph 4:12 and 13... Let God answer you.... For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Want to twist this one!
 
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If the COMFORTER did not LEAD and ENCOURAGE us we would NEVER have got close to the GATE... Did he not say HE WILL TEACH US ALL THINGS? So it looks like the TEACHING does not happen in a hurry, but then when the TEACHING is done, do you think this people are FREE? Jesus said... You shall know hte TRUTH and the TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE...

Ricky the comforter is the TEACHER but when the PUPOL KNOW THE TRUTH HE IS MADE FREE... FREE FROM WHAT RICKY? I bet sin is ONE of the things they are made free from.

Ricky are these people perfect? ...Eph 4:12 and 13... Let God answer you.... For the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith, and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

Want to twist this one!

(I'm Red)


What do I need to twist Coby?


For the perfecting of the saints(we are being perfected then), for the work of the ministry(so the Holy Spirit continually washes us why? - BECAUSE WE NEED IT!), for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith(Unity of what? - The perfecting of our own righteousness ...or the perfecting of our faith?), and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

What the apostle is describing is sanctification - - Which is a work of the Holy Spirit - Not of ourselves, lest any man should boast!!!!
Do you honestly think faith is an outward work?
You say you have no sin, but you are still here.
Coby, you claim perfection, yet you are still being renewed are you not? Or aren't you? Maybe you are perfect indeed.
If that is the case, God has finished His perfect work in you, and you are finished being shaped into the likeness of Christ. So if that is the case you should shortly be glorified(if you aren't already).
 
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Coby, we are renewed by the spirit daily. 1 Corinthians 10:13 "No Temptation has siezed you except what is common to man. And God is faithful; he will not LET yu be tempted beyond what yu can bear. But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it."

Does this not imply that our lives are going to be full of temptations? Does this not say that God will provide what is needed to be able to resist these temptations? We are perfect only in the eyes of God as long as we are walking the path he has chosen for us no matter how many times we fall.

Blessings
 
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Beanie what I see there is that GOD WILL NOT LET US FALL.... If God says you will not be tempted beyond what you can bearor handle,,, It means EXACTLY what the other verse says... God KNOWS to deliver the Godly OUT OF TEMPTATION.. and HE does it in a manner NOT TO ALLOW ANY TEMPTATION BEYOND WHAT HIS GODLY PEOPLE CAN BEAR... They will be delivered OUT before they FALL! They will ALWAYS take the WAY OUT and NOT DO THE SIN! ALWAYS!!!!

Why am I the only one that makes sence on these two verses... God never IMPLY anything He says it STRAIGHT OUT...
If God delivers a person OUT OF TEMPTATION.... it is just Jesus ASSISTING (succour) US IN TEMPTATION and OUT OF IT, NOT TO FALL//// Here is the verse as Jesus puts it... For in that he himself hath suffered being tempted, he is able to succour them that are tempted.

Beanie for me to BEAR a temptation and to FALL in temptation, is the OPPOSITES... And God said we will get NO TEMPTATION we CANNOT bear... So there it is again.... SINLESS!
Imagine having JESUS WITH YOU IN TEMPTATION, and HE HIMSELF SUCCOUR YOU WHILE YOU ARE BEING TEMPTED... WOW! how can ANY PERSON THEN FALL? Impossible!
 
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What do I need to twist Coby?


For the perfecting of the saints(we are being perfected then), for the work of the ministry(so the Holy Spirit continually washes us why? - BECAUSE WE NEED IT!), for the edifying of the body of Christ: Till we all come in the unity of the faith(Unity of what? - The perfecting of our own righteousness ...or the perfecting of our faith?), and of the knowledge of the Son of God, unto a perfect man, unto the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ:

What the apostle is describing is sanctification - - Which is a work of the Holy Spirit - Not of ourselves, lest any man should boast!!!!
Do you honestly think faith is an outward work?
You say you have no sin, but you are still here.
Coby, you claim perfection, yet you are still being renewed are you not? Or aren't you? Maybe you are perfect indeed.
If that is the case, God has finished His perfect work in you, and you are finished being shaped into the likeness of Christ. So if that is the case you should shortly be glorified(if you aren't already).

Ricky again your understnding of the word SAINT is not up to par.... A SAINT NEEDS NO FORGIVENESS OF CLEANSING... A SAINT is already a person that Stopped sinning. A Saint does not sin! But let me just give you the true meaning of a SAINT as in God's Word...

SAINT from the Greek Word HAGIOS.... Spiritually pure (no sin) Moraaly blameless (no sin) Most holy (ONE) (no sin). Please do not make this POWERFUL word a worthless idea by saing SAINTS do sin.... If a person sin ONCE, then he needs to go through God's CLEANSING before he can be saint... And this is the wonderful thing.... God knows who will NEVER SIN AGAIN... He knows. God only calls a person a SAINT, that HE KNOWS will not sin again... Saints walked the walk, that is why they are SAINTS...

Rick if yuo say you are a SAINT, you say you have already stopped sinning. Faith is a inward work that RUNS OVER TO THE OUTWARD FLESH! Rick when did I say I have no sin, please show where? Or better yet show the sin! Just because I preach what I believe, and it contradicts your doctrine does not make me a sinner. I preach ONLY TRUTH. If you doubt one thing I said or preached, ASK I will give the Scripture, AS IT IS WRITTEN with the COORECT meaning of the WORDS as it is written in God's WORD.

I did not make a SINGLE mistake yet, because I am BLESSED by Father to have His Word revealed... God said I shall know the TRUTH and the TRUTH shall make me free.... What do you think RICKY, do I know God's Word? John 17:17 says... HIS WORD IS TRUTH... I just thank the Lord for this PROMISE... YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH (WORD OF GOD) AND THE TRUTH SHALL MAKE YOU FREE... And then Jesus says.... IF I MAKE YOU FREE, YOU ARE FREE INDEED!!!! WOWOWOWOWOWOW!


What A GREAT SALVATION JESUS HAS FOR US...


Rick show me SCRIPTURE of WHAT WE ARE MADE FREE FROM... PLEASSSSSSEEEEEE!
 
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BeanieD actually we DIE DAILY untill we ARE DEAD TO OLD SELF... then the SPIRIT RENEW US ONCE! And he renews PERFECTLY... There is NO Scripture that says we are RENEWED DAILY TO THE GLORY OF GOD. It is a ONCE OFF BAPTISM...

God says the old HAS PASSED, not PASS DAILY... IT HAS PASSED... and EVERYTHING IS MADE NEW.... NOT DAILY...

The old has died and the NEW IS MADE ALIVE, NOTHING OF THE OLD IS USED IN THE NEW.... ALL HAS BECOME NEW. That is what the Bible says!

God does not revive the old bit by bit.... The old DIES ALL, then he REVIVES NEW ... ALL NEW!

Please try and see it as the Bible teach, not sinning Pastors, the BIBLE! God says ALL who are IN CHRIST is a NEW CREATURE the OLD has PASSED, behold....BEHOLD ALL IS MADE NEW.... I can show you other Scripture that says it is a ONCE OFF DEAL...
God says if we tasted this POWER of the NEW creature and we go back to flesh and sin... it is like a DOG returning to his vommit.

But the one verse that gives me PLENTY of hope that this will not happen, is 1 John 3:9, and to confirm, 1 John 5:18.

I know BORN OF GOD is the NEW CREATURE... and that happens at the END of our DEAD TO SELF, DEAD TO SIN!