Iniquity

[JLHillsSr]

אָוֶן 'aven H205 Iniquity
1) trouble, wickedness, sorrow
a) trouble, sorrow
b) idolatry
c) trouble of iniquity, wickedness

לֵב leb H3820 Heart
1) inner man, mind, will, heart, understanding
a) inner part, midst
1) midst (of things)
2) heart (of man)
3) soul, heart (of man)
4) mind, knowledge, thinking, reflection, memory
5) inclination, resolution, determination (of will)
6) conscience
7) heart (of moral character)
8) as seat of appetites
9) as seat of emotions and passions
10) as seat of courage



Psa 41:6 KJV - And if he come to see [me], he speaketh vanity: his heart gathereth iniquity to itself; [when] he goeth abroad, he telleth [it].

Psa 66:18 KJV - If I regard iniquity in my heart, the Lord will not hear [me]:

 

[JLHillsSr]

Act 24:16 KJV - And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and [toward] men.

The opposite being iniquity.

Rom 2:15 KJV - Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;
Rom 2:16 KJV - In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

1Jo 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 KJV - And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


Rom 9:1 KJV - I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
Rom 9:2 KJV - That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

Romans 9:2 speaks of the suffering. He suffers the pains of the truth of the cross.

Jhn 14:17 KJV - [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 15:26 KJV - But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16:13 KJV - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1Jo 4:6 KJV - We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

The Holy Spirit can not teach when the human soul is in iniquity, (not of God).

1Jo 1:5 KJV - This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jo 1:6 KJV - If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1Jo 1:7 KJV - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jo 1:8 KJV - If we say that we have no sin (iniquity), we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 KJV - If we confess our sins (iniquity), he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins (iniquity), and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 KJV - If we say that we have not sinned (iniquity), we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

This confession is from the heart. Silent. Not spoken. To God, and God alone. It shows the necessary faith in him to build a relationship. Confession to man will not do this.

 

[PS]

Can I ask what it is that makes iniquity different from evildoing and depravity?

Or is an iniquitous heart the same as an evil or depraved heart?

 

[Skinski7]

Iniquity is simply the heart/intention of an individual which is set on doing their own thing.

God did not create us to be independent from Him. Sin is akin to unplugging oneself from God.

Thus a worker of iniquity despises the instruction of God and is in rebellion to it.

Depravity simply means wickedness. Evil doing is simply doing what is wrong.

The Bible says that all unrighteousness is sin but there is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death. A sin unto death is when one yields to temptation and KNOWINGLY does wrong. That is iniquity, it is rebellion, it is disobedience to God. That behaviour has ceased in a true Christian.

A true Christian may sin in the sense of falling short due to being hasty, unwise, or naive. God will chasten one for these sins to bring the believer to holiness. The believer is not in rebellion and thus will yield to God's correction and instruction.

The worker of iniquity will despise instruction and will quench their conscience. The danger of this action is that the Bible says that God does give people over to a reprobate mind. If God stops drawing someone then there is no hope for them.

 

[Skinski7]

Act 24:16 KJV - And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offence toward God, and [toward] men.

The opposite being iniquity.

Rom 2:15 KJV - Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and [their] thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another;
Rom 2:16 KJV - In the day when God shall judge the secrets of men by Jesus Christ according to my gospel.

1Jo 5:7 KJV - For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
1Jo 5:8 KJV - And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


Rom 9:1 KJV - I say the truth in Christ, I lie not, my conscience also bearing me witness in the Holy Ghost,
Rom 9:2 KJV - That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart.

Romans 9:2 speaks of the suffering. He suffers the pains of the truth of the cross.

Jhn 14:17 KJV - [Even] the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Jhn 15:26 KJV - But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, [even] the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jhn 16:13 KJV - Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, [that] shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.
1Jo 4:6 KJV - We are of God: he that knoweth God heareth us; he that is not of God heareth not us. Hereby know we the spirit of truth, and the spirit of error.

The Holy Spirit can not teach when the human soul is in iniquity, (not of God).

1Jo 1:5 KJV - This then is the message which we have heard of him, and declare unto you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
1Jo 1:6 KJV - If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth:
1Jo 1:7 KJV - But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.
1Jo 1:8 KJV - If we say that we have no sin (iniquity), we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
1Jo 1:9 KJV - If we confess our sins (iniquity), he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins (iniquity), and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
1Jo 1:10 KJV - If we say that we have not sinned (iniquity), we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.

This confession is from the heart. Silent. Not spoken. To God, and God alone. It shows the necessary faith in him to build a relationship. Confession to man will not do this.

Excellent post. It is a joy to read words like these. So clear and concise.

 

[mark54]

The Bible says that all unrighteousness is sin but there is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death. A sin unto death is when one yields to temptation and KNOWINGLY does wrong. That is iniquity, it is rebellion, it is disobedience to God. That behaviour has ceased in a true Christian.

A true Christian may sin in the sense of falling short due to being hasty, unwise, or naive. God will chasten one for these sins to bring the believer to holiness. The believer is not in rebellion and thus will yield to God's correction and instruction.

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My brothers, if one of you(a Christian therefore) should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this.
Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death(the Christian who has erred) and cover over a multitude of sins
James5:19

Your teaching is dangerous and unscriptural.

It is a good job King David did not live under your rules for the new covenant isn't it. If he did he would definately have sinned unto death, as you put it and been cast into a lake of fire.

What about the man who slept with his Father's wife? Paul told the Corinthian church to forgive him and restore him to fellowship, how does this fit in with your theology?

God is more forgiving, loving, and compassionate than you are able to comprehend

 

[Skinski7]

My brothers, if one of you(a Christian therefore) should wander from the truth and someone should bring him back, remember this.
Whoever turns a sinner from the error of his way will save him from death(the Christian who has erred) and cover over a multitude of sins
James5:19

Your teaching is dangerous and unscriptural.

It is a good job King David did not live under your rules for the new covenant isn't it. If he did he would definately have sinned unto death, as you put it and been cast into a lake of fire.

What about the man who slept with his Father's wife? Paul told the Corinthian church to forgive him and restore him to fellowship, how does this fit in with your theology?

God is more forgiving, loving, and compassionate than you are able to comprehend

David had to repent in order to be reconciled to God. He did repent and thus he was forgiven. If David had of despised the counsel of Nathan and had of refused to repent then he would have perished in his sin.

The Corinthian had to FORSAKE his sin BEFORE forgiveness was granted, that is why Paul WARNED HIM and told his fellows to cast him out so that he would repent. Godly sorrow works repentance unto salvation. No Godly Sorrow = No Repentance = No Salvation.

No-one is forgiven in their sin. Anyone in a state of rebellion to God is living in very dangerous territory because if they die in their rebellion they can no longer forsake their rebellion.

God is very compassionate and very loving and very forgiving. Yet God will not wink at ongoing rebellion and forgive anyone while they are still defiant. The rebellion MUST CEASE. People generally don't like to hear that because they don't want to cease their rebellion yet it is what the Bible teaches.

If you disagree your issue is with God and not with me.

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Jer 26:13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

ph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

 

[mark54]

David had to repent in order to be reconciled to God. He did repent and thus he was forgiven. If David had of despised the counsel of Nathan and had of refused to repent then he would have perished in his sin.

The Corinthian has to FORSAKE his sin BEFORE forgiveness was granted, that is why Paul WARNED HIM and told his fellows to cast him out so that he would repent.

No-one is forgiven in their sin. Anyone in a state of rebellion to God is living in very dangerous territory because if they die in their rebellion they can no longer forsake their rebellion.

God is very compassionate and very loving and very forgiving. Yet God will not wink at ongoing rebellion and forgive anyone while they are still defiant. The rebellion MUST CEASE. People generally don't like to hear that because they don't want to cease their rebellion yet it is what the Bible teaches.

If you disagree your issue is with God and not with me.

Your post seemed to say(from my reading of it) that if a Christiasn willfully, deliberatley sins they have sinned unto death, in other words there is no way back for them. If that is not what you meant I am happy to apologise
I take it therefore you are now saying that if a Christian does wilfully err and live a life of flagrant sin, God will forgive them if they come in true repentance
If that is not your view, please let me know so there is no misunderstanding
Thanks

 

[Skinski7]

Your post seemed to say(from my reading of it) that if a Christiasn willfully, deliberatley sins they have sinned unto death, in other words there is no way back for them. If that is not what you meant I am happy to apologise
I take it therefore you are now saying that if a Christian does wilfully err and live a life of flagrant sin, God will forgive them if they come in true repentance
If that is not your view, please let me know so there is no misunderstanding
Thanks

My understanding is that there is always a recourse for rebellion but only through a genuine broken repentance experience. It is not simply a matter of saying "I'm sorry" and moving on. The iniquity within the heart has to be purged otherwise there is no true sorrow. The intention of the heart must be never to rebel again.

Heb 10:26-29 has a very severe warning about willfully sinning after being truly sanctified.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

One reason that willful sin is so serious after being cleansed by the blood is that it treats the blood with contempt. It is treating the blood like a get out of jail free card which in effect is treading it underfoot.

The other reason is that repentance is not a sure thing. A genuine broken repentance clears the soul of iniquity, it is a painful thing where the root of rebellion is purged from the soul. A genuine repentance is wrought through a godly sorrow where a full realisation of what sin actual is becomes evident to the sinner. When this occurs you know it, you are horrified at what you have done and you come to a full understanding of your offense to God. This sorrow produces the motivation to clear oneself of wrong doing and to make restitution where possible (read 2Cor 7:11 where Paul describes this).

Due to this repentance is not an easy thing to find ESPECIALLY a second repentance. Initial repentance involves being exposed to the light for the first time. The contrast to darkness is shocking and thus the conviction wrought by the Spirit over sin, righteousness and judgment is acute.

To go from the light back to darkness involves a willful rejection of God from a position of FULL KNOWLEDGE. It is a much more serious offense. The defilement it produces in the heart is very great for the sinner cannot use ignorance as an excuse in any way.

I believe this is why Peter would say this...

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Peter says that an individual in ignorance still in bondage is better off then one with knowledge who previously escaped and turned back.

What I have written above won't mean a whole lot to many people because the repentance message preached generally today is not the repentance of the Bible. Repentance is generally a mere confession of sinfulness. There is no purging of iniquity involved, the flesh is not actually crucified.

Due to this the warnings of Hebrews and Peter do not apply to most people because they have never truly repented in the first place (which is why they still yield to the lusts of their flesh).

So yes I believe God will forgive anyone who comes to a true repentance. It is just that a true repentance is not necessarily a given. Sin is dangerous.

David sinned and found repentance. So did Peter when he denied Jesus. God does grant mercy but the rebellion has to be forsaken. There is no forgiveness whilst one is IN rebellion.

 

[mark54]

My understanding is that there is always a recourse for rebellion but only through a genuine broken repentance experience. It is not simply a matter of saying "I'm sorry" and moving on. The iniquity within the heart has to be purged otherwise there is no true sorrow. The intention of the heart must be never to rebel again.

Heb 10:26-29 has a very severe warning about willfully sinning after being truly sanctified.

Heb 10:26 For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins,
Heb 10:27 But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries.
Heb 10:28 He that despised Moses' law died without mercy under two or three witnesses:
Heb 10:29 Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace?

One reason that willful sin is so serious after being cleansed by the blood is that it treats the blood with contempt. It is treating the blood like a get out of jail free card which in effect is treading it underfoot.

The other reason is that repentance is not a sure thing. A genuine broken repentance clears the soul of iniquity, it is a painful thing where the root of rebellion is purged from the soul. A genuine repentance is wrought through a godly sorrow where a full realisation of what sin actual is becomes evident to the sinner. When this occurs you know it, you are horrified at what you have done and you come to a full understanding of your offense to God. This sorrow produces the motivation to clear oneself of wrong doing and to make restitution where possible (read 2Cor 7:11 where Paul describes this).

Due to this repentance is not an easy thing to find ESPECIALLY a second repentance. Initial repentance involves being exposed to the light for the first time. The contrast to darkness is shocking and thus the conviction wrought by the Spirit over sin, righteousness and judgment is acute.

To go from the light back to darkness involves a willful rejection of God from a position of FULL KNOWLEDGE. It is a much more serious offense. The defilement it produces in the heart is very great for the sinner cannot use ignorance as an excuse in any way.

I believe this is why Peter would say this...

2Pe 2:20 For if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, they are again entangled therein, and overcome, the latter end is worse with them than the beginning.
2Pe 2:21 For it had been better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than, after they have known it, to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto them.
2Pe 2:22 But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

Peter says that an individual in ignorance still in bondage is better off then one with knowledge who previously escaped and turned back.

What I have written above won't mean a whole lot to many people because the repentance message preached generally today is not the repentance of the Bible. Repentance is generally a mere confession of sinfulness. There is no purging of iniquity involved, the flesh is not actually crucified.

Due to this the warnings of Hebrews and Peter do not apply to most people because they have never truly repented in the first place (which is why they still yield to the lusts of their flesh).

So yes I believe God will forgive anyone who comes to a true repentance. It is just that a true repentance is not necessarily a given. Sin is dangerous.

David sinned and found repentance. So did Peter when he denied Jesus. God does grant mercy but the rebellion has to be forsaken. There is no forgiveness whilst one is IN rebellion.

Thank you for your extended reply. You wrote:

Due to this the warnings of Hebrews and Peter do not apply to most people because they have never truly repented in the first place (which is why they still yield to the lusts of their flesh).

How in your opinion can a person stand on a righteousness of faith in Christ due to what you have written above? It is obvious that anyone believing what you have written will hinge their Christianity, (for they must repent to be saved) on whether they yield to the lusts of the flesh? Therefore, plainly they in effect are living under law. They cannot stand on a righteousness of faith in Christ. A persons bottom line has to be law/personal goodness, or faith, it cannot be both. And if it is law, then according to Paul the sinful passions in us are aroused by the law. This is the problem with your theology. According to Paul
Sin shall not be your master, for you are not under law but under grace.(Rom6:14)
But you will tell someone their Christianity hinges on them not yielding to the lusts of the flesh. It doesn't work Skinski. It is not biblical truth
BTW
I don't have affairs before you ask. I am faithful to my wife.

Can I ask you? What is your understanding of the following verses?

This is the covenant I will make with them after that time declares the Lord
I will put my laws in their hearts and write them on their minds
Then he adds:
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no nore

 

[Skinski7]

Thank you for your extended reply. You wrote:

Due to this the warnings of Hebrews and Peter do not apply to most people because they have never truly repented in the first place (which is why they still yield to the lusts of their flesh).

How in your opinion can a person stand on a righteousness of faith in Christ due to what you have written above? It is obvious that anyone believing what you have written will hinge their Christianity, (for they must repent to be saved) on whether they yield to the lusts of the flesh? Therefore, plainly they in effect are living under law. They cannot stand on a righteousness of faith in Christ. A persons bottom line has to be law/personal goodness, or faith, it cannot be both. And if it is law, then according to Paul the sinful passions in us are aroused by the law. This is the problem with your theology. According to Paul
Sin shall not be your master, for you are not under law but under grace.(Rom6:14)
But you will tell someone their Christianity hinges on them not yielding to the lusts of the flesh. It doesn't work Skinski. It is not biblical truth
BTW
I don't have affairs before you ask. I am faithful to my wife.

Can I ask you? What is your understanding of the following verses?

This is the covenant I will make with them after that time declares the Lord
I will put my laws in their hearts and write them on their minds
Then he adds:
Their sins and lawless deeds I will remember no nore

Living under the law is trying to obey the letter in the flesh in order to seek justification.

A Christian has liberty in Christ in the sense they walk by a faith that works by love. If one is living according to the lusts of their flesh in disobedience to God then that individual knows full well they are not walking after the Spirit by a faith that works by love.

It is pretty simple. Do the right thing from the heart. Live a life where you are loving others and not serving your own lusts selfishly.

For example sexual desire is common to man. Are we to yield to it unlawfully? If we do yield to that desire unlawfully then obviously we have not crucified that desire with Christ. Those that are Christ's rule over that desire by the Spirit, they mortify the deeds of the flesh.

It is not a complicated issue at all. Jesus said we must pick up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow Him. He meant exactly that, deny the lusts of the flesh and instead yield to the Spirit of God.

It is through repentance that the lusts are crucified once and for all. Thus we come through repentance in a submissive state to God where God can then do the work of making us holy. We obey unto righteousness which begets holiness the end of which is eternal life. That is what Paul clearly teaches in Romans 6.

This "personal goodness" you speak about is not an anathema. It will flow naturally when we walk after the Spirit. Righteous conduct is manifested through us, we don't live, Christ lives in us, we just walk by faith trusting in God allowing Him to guide our steps.

It is not about obeying rules and regulations. That is law keeping. It has everything to do with a CLEAN HEART before God.

Look at this verse...

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

Heart purity.

A good conscience.

Faith unfeigned.


We just love God and love our neighbour. The chips will fall where they may. It is the simplicity of Christ. Just do the right thing from the heart ALL THE TIME. When we plug into God the light is so powerful that these things are easy to do. Sure we have difficulties and fall short but we don't walk in selfishness. When we mess up God is there pointing out what we did wrong and we learn from it and move on. It is beautiful to walk with God.

When the Bible says this...

Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

It simply means that without KNOWLEDGE OF WRONGDOING there is no sin. The law is indicative of right and wrong and thus there is no longer an excuse for yielding to the flesh in an unlawful manner, hence all manner of evil desire is wrought by the law. This is what the Jews taught as Yetzer Ra (evil desire) which was revealed by Yetzer Tov (moral conscience). Sin is when an individual CHOOSES to yield to Yetzer Ra in violation of Yetzer Tov.

You are misunderstanding the difference between law and faith as I define it. The law is rules and regulations which can only order the outward man. Faith is internal and is of the heart and thus regulates the inward man. It is by faith that we yield to the working of God within (grace) that true righteousness is wrought both internally and externally.

That is what saved by grace THROUGH faith means. Salvation is not of the law which can only regulate the outer conduct but cannot deal with the root of sin which is the heart. Grace Through Faith on the other hand deals with the inner man. This is why we are "God's workmanship" and not our own. We can do nothing apart from God, hence Jesus said "abide in me and I will abide in you... without me you can do nothing."

Hence that flows into the verses you brought up...

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

God writes those laws on our heart through His grace. It's His gift to us but we have to be willing to receive that gift. It is through faith that we stop resisting the will of God and begin to cooperate. The fruit of that cooperation is purity of heart which is the same as Jer 31:33.

It is the engrafted word that saves the soul. We receive it. How do we receive it? By forsaking rebellion and choosing to yield.

as 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

That is why Jesus preached repentance. Repentance is necessary because it puts a stop to the rebellion, the resistance to God ends. The whole Bible is in harmony on this. Everything falls into place. It becomes clear why we must be doers, why God is the author of salvation to those who obey Him, why faith purifies the heart, why we must be workers together with God, why the disobedient are cut off.

The entire message of the Bible is about how to be plugged into God. Sin is what unplugs people from God. That is why the sin has to stop. One cannot receive the things of God whilst rejecting them at the same time. A double-minded man ought not think he will receive ANYTHING from God. Isn't that what James wrote?

 

[mark54]

Living under the law is trying to obey the letter in the flesh in order to seek justification.

A Christian has liberty in Christ in the sense they walk by a faith that works by love. If one is living according to the lusts of their flesh in disobedience to God then that individual knows full well they are not walking after the Spirit by a faith that works by love.

It is pretty simple. Do the right thing from the heart. Live a life where you are loving others and not serving your own lusts selfishly.

For example sexual desire is common to man. Are we to yield to it unlawfully? If we do yield to that desire unlawfully then obviously we have not crucified that desire with Christ. Those that are Christ's rule over that desire by the Spirit, they mortify the deeds of the flesh.

It is not a complicated issue at all. Jesus said we must pick up our cross, deny ourselves, and follow Him. He meant exactly that, deny the lusts of the flesh and instead yield to the Spirit of God.

Due to this the warnings of Hebrews and Peter do not apply to most people because they have never truly repented in the first place (which is why they still yield to the lusts of their flesh).

You wrote the above and that is what you preach. The reality is people who believe you will judge their Christianity accordnig to whether they yield to the lusts of the flesh, that's a fact. That places them under law. I know that is what happens Skinski. I was brought up in churches that preached this. 90% of the congregation came from middle class backgrounds, had good jobs and came from loving, caring backgrounds. They came from the more affluent half of society and those more intellectually gifted. You could tell by the way a person was dressed when they walked through the door if they would remain in the church or not. Basically if you didn't smoke, drink, swear or have extra marital affairs you were OK, but it helped to be well educated.
Guess what, the Pharisees would have passed all those tests with flying colours. There was no power in that church, but they believed passionately in the Baptism of the Holy Spirit. I smoked then, and the looks I got from the church stalwarts convinced mer I'd go to hell for smoking alone, let alone my other imperfections. And no matter how many times I went forward to receive the Baptism I never did. I figured it was because I couldn't live up to the preaching/what God expected of me.

Years later I did receive the Baptism, and this was confirmed to me before you question it, and I still smoked! I learnt something that day. That church had got its priorities wrong, to them, if you smoked it was impossible to be Baptised in the Spirit, but God didn't see it their way And they did not preach the heart of the Gospel. Never once did I hear the message of Grace in that church that Paul wrote. When I finally read Paul's letters when I was older I was staggered at what I read. So I know quite a lot as to churches that teach what you preach. And you don't preach plainly that Gospel either as they did not

It is through repentance that the lusts are crucified once and for all. Thus we come through repentance in a submissive state to God where God can then do the work of making us holy. We obey unto righteousness which begets holiness the end of which is eternal life. That is what Paul clearly teaches in Romans 6.

This is the truth Skinski. Deny it if you wish, but it is the truth:

If while we seek to be justified in Christ it becomes evident that we ourselves are sinners, does this mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! If I rebuild what I destroyed I prove that I am a lawbreaker(Gal2:16&17)



This "personal goodness" you speak about is not an anathema. It will flow naturally when we walk after the Spirit. Righteous conduct is manifested through us, we don't live, Christ lives in us, we just walk by faith trusting in God allowing Him to guide our steps.

So which is it? We look to Christ and live by faith and rely on the Spirit to sanctify us? Or WE crucify our own flesh and WE make our hearts pure by our endeavours. I am confused by conflicting statements of yours.

It is not about obeying rules and regulations. That is law keeping. It has everything to do with a CLEAN HEART before God.

But it is law keeping, for you plainly state there has been no repentance if the lusts of the flesh are yielded to/not put to death. That has to be according to law, and without repentance you cannot be saved.

Look at this verse...

1Ti 1:5 Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:

Heart purity.

A good conscience.

Faith unfeigned.


We just love God and love our neighbour. The chips will fall where they may. It is the simplicity of Christ. Just do the right thing from the heart ALL THE TIME. When we plug into God the light is so powerful that these things are easy to do. Sure we have difficulties and fall short but we don't walk in selfishness. When we mess up God is there pointing out what we did wrong and we learn from it and move on. It is beautiful to walk with God.

When the Bible says this...

Rom 7:8 But sin, taking occasion by the commandment, wrought in me all manner of concupiscence. For without the law sin was dead.

Please read properly what it says:

The law did not just reveal the sin. Sin used the commandment to wrought all manner of concupiscence in Paul. The sin became worse once the commandment came to him, this is what you cannot understand. Just as once a child is given rules to obey by loving parents huge excitement is stirred in them to break the rules. If they didn't have the rules, if there was no punishment for breaking them, the allure, excitement stirred in them in opposition to the given rules would not be there. If they never had the rules in the first place, they would inevitably at times be drawn to that which they should not do but the allure would not be so great. Hence:
For sin shall not be your master, for you are not under law but under grace
And
The vpowr of sin is the law (1Cor15:56)

It simply means that without KNOWLEDGE OF WRONGDOING there is no sin. The law is indicative of right and wrong and thus there is no longer an excuse for yielding to the flesh in an unlawful manner, hence all manner of evil desire is wrought by the law. This is what the Jews taught as Yetzer Ra (evil desire) which was revealed by Yetzer Tov (moral conscience). Sin is when an individual CHOOSES to yield to Yetzer Ra in violation of Yetzer Tov.

Sin is your master if you are under law. But as I told you, you place people under law, though you do not plainly state that is what you are doing. But you cannot see the practical reality of your theology.


You are misunderstanding the difference between law and faith as I define it. The law is rules and regulations which can only order the outward man. Faith is internal and is of the heart and thus regulates the inward man. It is by faith that we yield to the working of God within (grace) that true righteousness is wrought both internally and externally.

You are wrong. You don't have to give someone a list of rules and regulations, just tell them their Christianity hinges on their personal goodness/not yielding to lust. I repeat, that puts them under law.

That is what saved by grace THROUGH faith means. Salvation is not of the law which can only regulate the outer conduct but cannot deal with the root of sin which is the heart. Grace Through Faith on the other hand deals with the inner man. This is why we are "God's workmanship" and not our own. We can do nothing apart from God, hence Jesus said "abide in me and I will abide in you... without me you can do nothing."

Hence that flows into the verses you brought up...

Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.

God writes those laws on our heart through His grace. It's His gift to us but we have to be willing to receive that gift. It is through faith that we stop resisting the will of God and begin to cooperate. The fruit of that cooperation is purity of heart which is the same as Jer 31:33.


The Israelites hearts were hard. God said they were a stiff necked people. He told Moses to tell them to circumcise their hearts(what they had to do) but of course they didn't do it. Are we naturally any better? No we are not. But God has put t in our hearts to want to obey. And our hearts are circumcised by the Spirit(Rom2:29)
Ezekiel prophesised concerning this:
I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your impurities and from all your idols. [SUP]26 [/SUP]I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit in you; I will remove from you your heart of stone and give you a heart of flesh. [SUP]27 [/SUP]And I will put my Spirit in you and move you to follow my decrees and be careful to keep my laws.

God has softened our hearts. He has written his good and Holy laws on our hearts he wants us to obey, meaning we, unlike the Israelites want to obey God. That is why we have a conscience when we err, we have been reborn of the Spirit. So why do you and others ceaselessly preach a Gospel of looking to the literal law and striving to obey it? The law is internal to the Christian, not external:

You yourselves are our letter, written on our hearts, known and read by everybody. [SUP]3 [/SUP]You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

As the sincere Christian wants in their heart to obey God they look away from themselves and to Christ, and trust him to change them by the sanctification of the Spiirt. The vSpirit sanctifies us(Rom15:16) We therefore do not make ourselves pure. You continually stress what WE must do, we can do nothing, we can have absolutely no confidence in the flesh(Phil3:3)
As we in our hearts want to obey, we understand what Paul meant
The law can only make us conscious of our sin
We look to Christ for our hearts desire, a hearts desire born of the Spirit.
Therefore the Christian is a testimony to the law written on their heart, not with ink or on tablets of stone. Those who have to look to the written lasw and strive to obey it, do not understand the new covenant

You are as good a preaching the old covenant, with some of the literal letter, without properly understanding the heart of what that letter contains
It is the engrafted word that saves the soul. We receive it. How do we receive it? By forsaking rebellion and choosing to yield.

as 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

That is why Jesus preached repentance. Repentance is necessary because it puts a stop to the rebellion, the resistance to God ends. The whole Bible is in harmony on this. Everything falls into place. It becomes clear why we must be doers, why God is the author of salvation to those who obey Him, why faith purifies the heart, why we must be workers together with God, why the disobedient are cut off.

The entire message of the Bible is about how to be plugged into God. Sin is what unplugs people from God. That is why the sin has to stop. One cannot receive the things of God whilst rejecting them at the same time. A double-minded man ought not think he will receive ANYTHING from God. Isn't that what James wrote?

Answers above

 

[Skinski7]

Mark,


You said that you were still a smoker when you received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost.

Let me ask you this, if you had a pornography addiction instead of a smoking addiction would you have still received the Baptism of the Holy Ghost? Would the porn watching have to stop at some stage? If so, when would it be?


I think answering that question will reveal a lot about what you believe.

 

[JLHillsSr]

Can I ask what it is that makes iniquity different from evildoing and depravity?

Or is an iniquitous heart the same as an evil or depraved heart?

Iniquity is the thought that leads to the transgression of Gods rules. In doing so you are trying to find a way to get what it is that you want, and still obtain the end that God wants. It is this transgression that leads to sin. Anything not of God is sin.

Everyone is offered salvation. The difference being, how do we obtain it?

 

[JLHillsSr]

Iniquity is simply the heart/intention of an individual which is set on doing their own thing.

God did not create us to be independent from Him. Sin is akin to unplugging oneself from God.

Thus a worker of iniquity despises the instruction of God and is in rebellion to it.

Depravity simply means wickedness. Evil doing is simply doing what is wrong.

The Bible says that all unrighteousness is sin but there is a sin unto death and a sin not unto death. A sin unto death is when one yields to temptation and KNOWINGLY does wrong. That is iniquity, it is rebellion, it is disobedience to God. That behaviour has ceased in a true Christian.

A true Christian may sin in the sense of falling short due to being hasty, unwise, or naive. God will chasten one for these sins to bring the believer to holiness. The believer is not in rebellion and thus will yield to God's correction and instruction.

The worker of iniquity will despise instruction and will quench their conscience. The danger of this action is that the Bible says that God does give people over to a reprobate mind. If God stops drawing someone then there is no hope for them.

Iniquity comes from the heart, i.e the soul. The only one that can hear these thoughts is God.

John 8 Gives us a great example of this.

Jhn 8:6 KJV - This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with [his] finger wrote on the ground, [as though he heard them not].
Jhn 8:7 KJV - So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her.
Jhn 8:8 KJV - And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground.
Jhn 8:9 KJV - And they which heard [it], being convicted by [their own] conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, [even] unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst.

He writes there name, one by one, listing the iniquities committed. One by one they left.

Psa 51:1 KJV - [[To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David, when Nathan the prophet came unto him, after he had gone in to Bathsheba.]] Have mercy upon me, O God, according to thy lovingkindness: according unto the multitude of thy tender mercies blot out my transgressions.
Psa 51:2 KJV - Wash me throughly from mine iniquity, and cleanse me from my sin.
Psa 51:3 KJV - For I acknowledge my transgressions: and my sin [is] ever before me.
Psa 51:4 KJV - Against thee, thee only, have I sinned, and done [this] evil in thy sight: that thou mightest be justified when thou speakest, [and] be clear when thou judgest.
Psa 51:5 KJV - Behold, I was shapen in iniquity; and in sin did my mother conceive me.

 

[JLHillsSr]

Excellent post. It is a joy to read words like these. So clear and concise.

I thank you, Skinski7, however, the words are God's. The layout is God's.
This is my point. Without the weight of iniquity, and the guilt of sin, the word of this book is taught by it's author.
Sin was removed by the cross. Iniquity, however, has to be given to Christ and the Father. In keeping any conversation with God, we spend time with Him. One can not spend time with such greatness without coming back with something.

 

[Skinski7]

Iniquity is the thought that leads to the transgression of Gods rules. In doing so you are trying to find a way to get what it is that you want, and still obtain the end that God wants. It is this transgression that leads to sin. Anything not of God is sin.

Everyone is offered salvation. The difference being, how do we obtain it?

You are clearly confusing temptation with iniquity.

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

The natural passions and desires of the flesh is not iniquity. Temptation is common to man.

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Jesus was tempted in like manner...

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.


G458 - Iniquity - anomia
From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.

A worker of iniquity is someone who does evil hence...

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Thus a heart set on doing evil is a heart rooted in iniquity for that is where all evil flows.

Mar 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mar 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mar 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mar 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Jesus came to redeem us from ALL iniquity and make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Being redeemed means being ransomed.

G3084 - Redeem -lutroō
From G3083; to ransom (literally or figuratively): - redeem.

The Bible teaches that a Christian is both redeemed and forgiven. Redemption and forgiveness are two different aspects of salvation.

Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

G629 - Redemption - apolutrōsis
From a compound of G575 and G3083; (the act) ransom in full, that is, (figuratively) riddance, or (specifically) Christian salvation: - deliverance, redemption.

Jesus bought us with His blood. His blood was the price He paid to ransom us from all iniquity.

1Co 7:22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
1Co 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

A sinner is a slave to sin you see because they yield to sin.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Sinners have sold themselves into this state of bondage and they are redeemed without money.

Isa_52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

H1350 - Redeemed - gâ'al
A primitive root, to redeem (according to the Oriental law of kinship), that is, to be the next of kin (and as such to buy back a relative’s property, marry his widow, etc.): - X in any wise, X at all, avenger, deliver, (do, perform the part of near, next) kinsfolk (-man), purchase, ransom, redeem (-er), revenger.

It is Jesus Christ that makes us free indeed.

Joh 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

This is why someone who has been TRULY redeemed does not sin. The bondage has been broken. They no longer yield to the passions and desires of their flesh and are thus no longer drawn into sin. They are the Lord's freemen as it says in 1Cor 7:22.

How does one obtain this?

Through repentance and faith. One must be broken on the rock of Christ in order that the old master (Satan) be thrown off through the death of the old man (Rom 6:6) that we may go across to our new master whom is Jesus Christ. Thus we die (the old rebellious self serving man) with Christ that we may live to God.

God sent Jesus to save us from our sins (Mat 1:21).

A common error in the church system is that they only teach that one is set free from condemnation. They do not teach that one is set free from the actual bondage of sin whereby one is able to actually go and sin no more.

True salvation has been subverted by a false notion of a forensic salvation. Hence they teach that you have an "identity in Christ" whilst you still actually remain a "slave to sin." It is actually not salvation at all but a Satanic deception to keep people in bondage so they will lose their souls.

Don't be deceived!

Those who have been redeemed by the blood of Christ have also been purified. Thus they no longer have iniquity within the heart. That does not mean they won't fall short due to ignorance. What it does mean is that the all willful sin, which is sin rooted in iniquity, has ceased. We no longer walk after the lusts of the flesh, we are instead led by the Spirit.

 

[JLHillsSr]

David had to repent in order to be reconciled to God. He did repent and thus he was forgiven. If David had of despised the counsel of Nathan and had of refused to repent then he would have perished in his sin.

The Corinthian had to FORSAKE his sin BEFORE forgiveness was granted, that is why Paul WARNED HIM and told his fellows to cast him out so that he would repent. Godly sorrow works repentance unto salvation. No Godly Sorrow = No Repentance = No Salvation.

No-one is forgiven in their sin. Anyone in a state of rebellion to God is living in very dangerous territory because if they die in their rebellion they can no longer forsake their rebellion.

God is very compassionate and very loving and very forgiving. Yet God will not wink at ongoing rebellion and forgive anyone while they are still defiant. The rebellion MUST CEASE. People generally don't like to hear that because they don't want to cease their rebellion yet it is what the Bible teaches.

If you disagree your issue is with God and not with me.

Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.

Pro 28:13 He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy.

Jer 26:13 Therefore now amend your ways and your doings, and obey the voice of the LORD your God; and the LORD will repent him of the evil that he hath pronounced against you.

Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.

ph 5:1 Be ye therefore followers of God, as dear children;
Eph 5:2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
Eph 5:3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
Eph 5:4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
Eph 5:5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
Eph 5:6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
Eph 5:7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.

No man knows all sin. It is taught to him, right from wrong. We don't know iniquity without God showing it to us.

 

[JLHillsSr]

You are clearly confusing temptation with iniquity.

Jas 1:14 But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed.
Jas 1:15 Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death.

The natural passions and desires of the flesh is not iniquity. Temptation is common to man.

1Co 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.

Jesus was tempted in like manner...

Heb 4:15 For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.


G458 - Iniquity - anomia
From G459; illegality, that is, violation of law or (generally) wickedness: - iniquity, X transgress (-ion of) the law, unrighteousness.

A worker of iniquity is someone who does evil hence...

Mat 7:22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
Mat 7:23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.

1Jn 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

Thus a heart set on doing evil is a heart rooted in iniquity for that is where all evil flows.

Mar 7:20 And he said, That which cometh out of the man, that defileth the man.
Mar 7:21 For from within, out of the heart of men, proceed evil thoughts, adulteries, fornications, murders,
Mar 7:22 Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
Mar 7:23 All these evil things come from within, and defile the man.

Jesus came to redeem us from ALL iniquity and make us pure.

Tit 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

Being redeemed means being ransomed.

G3084 - Redeem -lutroō
From G3083; to ransom (literally or figuratively): - redeem.

The Bible teaches that a Christian is both redeemed and forgiven. Redemption and forgiveness are two different aspects of salvation.

Col 1:14 In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:

G629 - Redemption - apolutrōsis
From a compound of G575 and G3083; (the act) ransom in full, that is, (figuratively) riddance, or (specifically) Christian salvation: - deliverance, redemption.

Jesus bought us with His blood. His blood was the price He paid to ransom us from all iniquity.

1Co 7:22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.
1Co 7:23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.

A sinner is a slave to sin you see because they yield to sin.

Rom 6:16 Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Joh 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Sinners have sold themselves into this state of bondage and they are redeemed without money.

Isa_52:3 For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

H1350 - Redeemed - gâ'al
A primitive root, to redeem (according to the Oriental law of kinship), that is, to be the next of kin (and as such to buy back a relative’s property, marry his widow, etc.): - X in any wise, X at all, avenger, deliver, (do, perform the part of near, next) kinsfolk (-man), purchase, ransom, redeem (-er), revenger.

It is Jesus Christ that makes us free indeed.

Joh 8:35 And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever.
Joh 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed.

This is why someone who has been TRULY redeemed does not sin. The bondage has been broken. They no longer yield to the passions and desires of their flesh and are thus no longer drawn into sin. They are the Lord's freemen as it says in 1Cor 7:22.

How does one obtain this?

Through repentance and faith. One must be broken on the rock of Christ in order that the old master (Satan) be thrown off through the death of the old man (Rom 6:6) that we may go across to our new master whom is Jesus Christ. Thus we die (the old rebellious self serving man) with Christ that we may live to God.

God sent Jesus to save us from our sins (Mat 1:21).

A common error in the church system is that they only teach that one is set free from condemnation. They do not teach that one is set free from the actual bondage of sin whereby one is able to actually go and sin no more.

True salvation has been subverted by a false notion of a forensic salvation. Hence they teach that you have an "identity in Christ" whilst you still actually remain a "slave to sin." It is actually not salvation at all but a Satanic deception to keep people in bondage so they will lose their souls.

Don't be deceived!

Those who have been redeemed by the blood of Christ have also been purified. Thus they no longer have iniquity within the heart. That does not mean they won't fall short due to ignorance. What it does mean is that the all willful sin, which is sin rooted in iniquity, has ceased. We no longer walk after the lusts of the flesh, we are instead led by the Spirit.

Jesus, was, indeed tempted. He, however, is not of the seed of man, but of the Highest. The nature of sin comes from the male. Though his mother was of man, the egg was washed in blood. Jesus, truly, knew no sin.

 

[Skinski7]

Jesus, was, indeed tempted. He, however, is not of the seed of man, but of the Highest. The nature of sin comes from the male. Though his mother was of man, the egg was washed in blood. Jesus, truly, knew no sin.

Sin is moral, not a substance of the flesh.

Please watch and consider this...

[video=youtube;KVQ1t5i058Q]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVQ1t5i058Q[/video]

There are a lot of false teachings that have infiltrated Christian orthodoxy over the years.