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bafa

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i saw this new individual at introduce yourself catergory; and he is asking about demons and demonlogy. it's not i'm making a gossip out of at him, his asking. so i gave him a PM and he replied also..

I believe that we have our own interpretations to everything like such as this. i don't want to make this as a debate, because we christians do not debate anymore because Jesus Christ our Redeemer had already risen. and he is now sitting on the right hand of our Father in heaven.

Luke 22:69
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

about demons: i find "demon" word is a deception to interpret that fallen angels are the demons; there is an evil spirit words, there is satan, lucifer, and many much more names and words that describes such angels like that but a demon word is not found in the bible. and if we talk about literatures such are written for demons ideology are just plain interpretation a product of vain imaginations. i found that the demon word is a double purpose word for deception. i can tell because i have been to a lot of battle against ssuch idology and double tongue wars. i know because i've exprienced it and fought a good fight victoriously
:Dyeheey! through the help of my holy spirit which came from Jesus Christ the Son, and God our Father who created all things..
i can just google the word demon at the internet or just look from the dictionary, it's there! but not in the book of the holy bible. i really find it an interpretation from n individual who made a mark on literature, which is now frequently being used nowadays. though..


about demonology you can teach me anything about it
;)though i find it unfruitful food for my soul, but i believe that there's a blessing indisguise with it. and my holy spirit will protect me to be not consumed by it:).




 
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ChristIsGod

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I agree with you, Sister. That name is not in the KJV but it sure does get over-used in this generation -- doesn't it?

It seems to be an excuse for sinning or for acting out in a wrong way in a believer. Those without Christ may have spirits 'in' them - but those born of the Spirit cannot have another spirit occupying where His Spirit dwells and has called His temple.

It's good to see ladies studying and being Berean types. Mary sat at His feet and He commended that.

God Bless you!
 

bafa

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I agree with you, Sister. That name is not in the KJV but it sure does get over-used in this generation -- doesn't it?

It seems to be an excuse for sinning or for acting out in a wrong way in a believer. Those without Christ may have spirits 'in' them - but those born of the Spirit cannot have another spirit occupying where His Spirit dwells and has called His temple.

It's good to see ladies studying and being Berean types. Mary sat at His feet and He commended that.

God Bless you!
i agree with you sister:)i believe that you have seen that spirit also. the spirit of Jesus Christ is not a confusing spirit..


1 Corinthians 14
3But he that prophesieth speaketh unto men to edification, and exhortation, and comfort.4He that speaketh in an unknown tongue edifieth himself; but he that prophesieth edifieth the church. 5I would that ye all spake with tongues, but rather that ye prophesied: for greater is he that prophesieth than he that speaketh with tongues, except he interpret, that the church may receive edifying.

GBU
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MaggieMye

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The New American Standard is considered by many scholars to be more accurate of a translation than the KJV:
"demon" is simply a word or synonym for 'unclean spirit'....which is also what all false gods are.
Mark 5 [Full Chapter]
[ The Gerasene Demoniac ] They came to the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gerasenes. When He got out of the boat, immediately a man from the tombs with an unclean spirit met Him, and he had his dwelling among the tombs. And no one was able to bind him anymore, even with a chain; ...


[h=4]Bible search results[/h]Leviticus 17:7
They shall no longer sacrifice their sacrifices to the goat demons with which they play the harlot. This shall be a permanent statute to them throughout their generations.”’
Deuteronomy 32:17
“They sacrificed to demons who were not God, To gods whom they have not known, New gods who came lately, Whom your fathers did not dread.
Psalm 106:37
They even sacrificed their sons and their daughters to the demons,
Ecclesiastes 10:3
Even when the fool walks along the road, his sense is lacking and he demonstrates to everyone that he is a fool.
Matthew 4:24
The news about Him spread throughout all Syria; and they brought to Him all who were ill, those suffering with various diseases and pains, demoniacs, epileptics, paralytics; and He healed them.
Matthew 7:22
Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’
Matthew 8:16
When evening came, they brought to Him many who were demon-possessed; and He cast out the spirits with a word, and healed all who were ill.
Matthew 8:28
[ Jesus Casts Out Demons ] When He came to the other side into the country of the Gadarenes, two men who were demon-possessed met Him as they were coming out of the tombs. They were so extremely violent that no one could pass by that way.
Matthew 8:31
The demons began to entreat Him, saying, “If Youare going to cast us out, send us into the herd of swine.”
Matthew 8:33
The herdsmen ran away, and went to the city and reported everything, including what had happened to the demoniacs.
Matthew 9:32
As they were going out, a mute, demon-possessed man was brought to Him.
Matthew 9:33
After the demon was cast out, the mute man spoke; and the crowds were amazed, and were saying, “Nothing like this has ever been seen in Israel.”
Matthew 9:34
But the Pharisees were saying, “He casts out thedemons by the ruler of the demons.”
Matthew 10:8
Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse the lepers, cast out demons. Freely you received, freely give.Matthew 11:18

For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, ‘He has a demon!’
Matthew 12:22
[ The Pharisees Rebuked ] Then a demon-possessed man who was blind and mute was brought to Jesus, and He healed him, so that the mute man spoke and saw.
Matthew 12:24
But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, “This man casts out demons only by Beelzebul the ruler of the demons.”
Matthew 12:27
If I by Beelzebul cast out demons, by whom do your sons cast them out? For this reason they will be your judges.


Matthew 12:28
But if I cast out demons by the Spirit of God, then the kingdom of God has come upon you.
Matthew 15:22
And a Canaanite woman from that region came out and began to cry out, saying, “Have mercy on me, Lord, Son of David; my daughter is cruelly demon-possessed.”
Matthew 17:14
[ The Demoniac ] When they came to the crowd, a man came up to Jesus, falling on his knees before Him and saying,
Matthew 17:18
And Jesus rebuked him, and the demon came out of him, and the boy was cured at once.
Mark 1:32
When evening came, after the sun had set, theybegan bringing to Him all who were ill and those who were demon-possessed.
Mark 1:34
And He healed many who were ill with various diseases, and cast out many demons; and He was not permitting the demons to speak, because they knew who He was.
Mark 1:39
And He went into their synagogues throughout all Galilee, preaching and casting out the demons.
Maggie


 

bafa

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The New American Standard is considered by many scholars to be more accurate of a translation than the KJV:
"demon" is simply a word or synonym for 'unclean spirit'....which is also what all false gods are.

but his arguing with me or debating me sort of, that i should be careful on such words that i'm saying that "fallen angels are demons" and not an evil spirit.. i tried not to answer his pm anymore coz i'm seing clearly what his trying to prove.

TNAS version i know is more practical literature than old english(poet discipline version) such as KJV. but i'd prefer reading King James Version on my part because that's what i got used to to read and it is how my spirit works better than any other versions:).

about demon: i find practical words nowadays are just plane abbreviated. such as de- for dis /and mon- for a name. i figured that out at my spiritual battles while journeying:eek:..
 
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BradC

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The word 'devils' is used often in the NT to associate a disembodied spirit. Fallen angels had a body in heaven and still have a body which is, for the most part, inivisible to the natural eye of man. Some fallen angels have been reserved in everlasting chains unto the judgment of the great day (Jude 6). The disembodied spirits (devils) have strange doctrine (1 Tim 4:1. Heb 13:9) and administer this doctrine to believers who have been seduced away from the faith by seducing spirits. The primary purpose of these disembodied spirits is to seek out ways to destroy and to cause a split and division and to take away any capacity that a person might have to be able to receive from God. Example: Mt 13:19, & 1 Thes 2:18, & 1 Pt 5:8
 

bafa

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The word 'devils' is used often in the NT to associate a disembodied spirit. Fallen angels had a body in heaven and still have a body which is, for the most part, inivisible to the natural eye of man. Some fallen angels have been reserved in everlasting chains unto the judgment of the great day (Jude 6). The disembodied spirits (devils) have strange doctrine (1 Tim 4:1. Heb 13:9) and administer this doctrine to believers who have been seduced away from the faith by seducing spirits. The primary purpose of these disembodied spirits is to seek out ways to destroy and to cause a split and division and to take away any capacity that a person might have to be able to receive from God. Example: Mt 13:19, & 1 Thes 2:18, & 1 Pt 5:8
i can see your reading well your bible:)that's a good thing.. but as i had some previous posted; just beware of the copyright;)

i can see what you mean; someone told me once that experiences such as that, are only driven by hunger matters. relating about spiritual interpretations such as what you've had replied on the thread: if a chosen one said that you have to do this and don't do this, am i going to follow? i would! because God chose him or her for a reason and i believe that they are pre-chosened before the world is created. and it is part of our Grace that we have such persons like them for us to be fellowheir, and not devoured by poverty.. and this is about the wayside:). and holy spirit is very important to every individual because of generations..
 

bafa

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This is what we have from God:)..

Romans 8:34-39
34 Who is he that condemneth? It is Christ that died, yea rather, that is risen again, who is even at the right hand of God, who also maketh intercession for us.
35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter.
37 Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us.
38 For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
39 Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
 

bafa

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i can see your reading well your bible:)that's a good thing.. but as i had some previous posted; just beware of the copyright;)

i can see what you mean; someone told me once that experiences such as that, are only driven by hunger matters. relating about spiritual interpretations such as what you've had replied on the thread: if a chosen one said that you have to do this and don't do this, am i going to follow? i would! because God chose him or her for a reason and i believe that they are pre-chosened before the world is created. and it is part of our Grace that we have such persons like them for us to be fellowheir, and not devoured by poverty.. and this is about the wayside:). and holy spirit is very important to every individual because of generations..
continuation
who will take us away from the Love of God? disembodiment or dismembering??
 

bafa

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The New American Standard is considered by many scholars to be more accurate of a translation than the KJV:
"demon" is simply a word or synonym for 'unclean spirit'....which is also what all false gods are.


ithink that's the simpliest explanation for that:eek:
 

p_rehbein

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Have you been gone somewhere? I see you have resurrected two of your threads here.......one from 2015, and this one from 2014. It's ok I guess........but, goodness, I hope no one was waiting for an answer from you back then............ :)
 

OneFaith

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i saw this new individual at introduce yourself catergory; and he is asking about demons and demonlogy. it's not i'm making a gossip out of at him, his asking. so i gave him a PM and he replied also..

I believe that we have our own interpretations to everything like such as this. i don't want to make this as a debate, because we christians do not debate anymore because Jesus Christ our Redeemer had already risen. and he is now sitting on the right hand of our Father in heaven.

Luke 22:69
Hereafter shall the Son of man sit on the right hand of the power of God.

about demons: i find "demon" word is a deception to interpret that fallen angels are the demons; there is an evil spirit words, there is satan, lucifer, and many much more names and words that describes such angels like that but a demon word is not found in the bible. and if we talk about literatures such are written for demons ideology are just plain interpretation a product of vain imaginations. i found that the demon word is a double purpose word for deception. i can tell because i have been to a lot of battle against ssuch idology and double tongue wars. i know because i've exprienced it and fought a good fight victoriously
:Dyeheey! through the help of my holy spirit which came from Jesus Christ the Son, and God our Father who created all things..
i can just google the word demon at the internet or just look from the dictionary, it's there! but not in the book of the holy bible. i really find it an interpretation from n individual who made a mark on literature, which is now frequently being used nowadays. though..


about demonology you can teach me anything about it
;)though i find it unfruitful food for my soul, but i believe that there's a blessing indisguise with it. and my holy spirit will protect me to be not consumed by it:).




Demons are mentioned in the Bible, such as James 2:19. It's not wrong to talk about anything in the Bible. One should know their enemy and their enemy's schemes in order to protect themselves. And the Bible says there is no private interpretations of the Bible. The Bible answers itself in other areas of the Bible.
 

jerry2465

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Demons (unclean spirits) are very real. There are many references in the gospel accounts of Jesus communicating with them and driving them out, and many places in the bible. I like this verse, explaining where our enemies are and to stand firm with the whole armor of God to be victorious.


[h=1]Ephesians 6:10-14English Standard Version (ESV)[/h] [h=3]The Whole Armor of God[/h][SUP]10 [/SUP]Finally, be strong in the Lord and in the strength of his might. [SUP]11 [/SUP]Put on the whole armor of God, that you may be able to stand against the schemes of the devil. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the cosmic powers over this present darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly places. [SUP]13 [/SUP]Therefore take up the whole armor of God, that you may be able to withstand in the evil day, and having done all, to stand firm. [SUP]14 [/SUP]Stand therefore, having fastened on the belt of truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness,
 

bafa

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Have you been gone somewhere? I see you have resurrected two of your threads here.......one from 2015, and this one from 2014. It's ok I guess........but, goodness, I hope no one was waiting for an answer from you back then............ :)
lol:pyah? and what do you have?
 

bafa

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"backdogs"lol
 

p_rehbein

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How have I backdoged you? Consider the definition........

[FONT=&quot]backdog[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Defaming, insulting, or verbally abusing someone without their knowledge. This method of slander is often done behind the target's back, but can also be done in the person's presence without them being privy to the subject of the blaspheme. Regularly confused with 'backstabbing', backdogging someone is much more severe, with deep animosity and hostility almost always implied.

Please explain how my comment was slanderous or contained animosity or hostility?

How did I insult or verbally abuse you?

wow................weird indeed[/FONT]



 
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pr,

neither one of us has heard the word, 'backdog', before, it probably just
means for your dog to back-up...if it is a WORD, we're not interested in it
or in adding it to our vocabulary...:):eek:
 

bafa

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:rolleyes:
How have I backdoged you? Consider the definition........

backdog
Defaming, insulting, or verbally abusing someone without their knowledge. This method of slander is often done behind the target's back, but can also be done in the person's presence without them being privy to the subject of the blaspheme. Regularly confused with 'backstabbing', backdogging someone is much more severe, with deep animosity and hostility almost always implied.

Please explain how my comment was slanderous or contained animosity or hostility?

How did I insult or verbally abuse you?

wow................weird indeed
ah ok
:rolleyes:
you find that insulting.; insulting:a person trying to irritate you through harmful ways such as abusive words and physical battering.

I thought i saw you say a back word (on my interpretation).
i'm from Israel and i can discern bewitching.
And back is an abusive word for us.
My fathers back is as beautiful as New Jerusalem:eek:
no squatters
no dog-like belief
no irritations
no witches
so saying back word vice versa against such people with no good intentions is a defense against attackers

but theres another back meaning, it's up to you how will you understand it.:)
 
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Why do people write so many words that say almost nothing? I really am trying to get this post...so far all I got was better to say unclean spirit then to say demon.
 

Roadkill

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When Satan was allowed to tempt the Angels of Heaven he managed to get a third to follow him in his rebellion against God the Father. When Satan was cast out of Heaven with these fallen angels he was given authority over them. These fallen angels now answer to him and owe their allegiance to him, the Word Demon describes them. They serve Satan but are restricted in their hostilities toward us by God. They can do nothing without God's permissive will. Through their evil God tests us in many ways.
Fallen Angels are different in that they do not owe their allegiance to Satan in that they do not follow him or are in his ranks. They have left their post in Heaven and do contrary to the will of God. These angels are completely capable of teaching a gospel contrary to that of Jesus Christ. That is why we are to test all spirits to see if they are of God or not and this test is given in the verses of 1st John chapter 4 verses 1-3. If Joseph Smith had done this test on Moroni he would have known the truth.
Be aware that angels , whether fallen, demonic or of God, were never human beings. They all started out as servants of Jehovah Sabaoth and were created for that purpose. Those that still serve God the Father are loved by him and those who do not are Judged to be cast in hell some day. This goes for Demons and Fallen Angels.