interracial marriage.

[maxwel]

The above posters have done an excellent job of explaining the issue of being "unequally yoked",
and how that is a spiritual, not a physical issue.

I think it is only reasonable now, to talk a little about culture.

The scripture tells us often to be "wise", and to be "prudent".
In other places we are taught we should understand the true cost of any undertaking,
and that we should think ahead, and think things through.
God tells us over and over to be wise, prudent, thorough, cautious.

So what's the point?

If you marry a Godly person from another race or culture,
God is fine with that, according to scripture.
But you may have other problems that you didn't expect.

If your family is racist, and you marry someone outside your race,
you will probably lose your family.
Are you willing to go through that?
Some people are willing, some people are not.
If you marry someone from a different culture,
you may have deep and abiding communication problems.
Some couples overcome these problems, some do not.

God equally loves all of his Children, from all races and cultures.
You have "liberty" in Christ to marry any Christian, from any place.
But if you marry someone drastically different than you,
you should be prudent, and think it through,
and make sure it's the best thing for YOU to do.

An inter-racial, or multi-cultural couple will have all the normal problems of marriage,
and then some extra problems added.
If you're aware of that, and prepared for that... then you're good to go.

 

[jimmydiggs]

You may have a point Jimmy, but looking at in context, it is talking about who we belong to, all being one in Christ. No, it is definitely not about marriage, but really, if you think about it, if we are all Abraham's offspring as the next verse says, then there are no barriers to interracial marriage. I guess that was my point. Here is the verse in context.

"Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed.[SUP]24 [/SUP]So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith. [SUP]25 [/SUP]But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian, [SUP]26 [/SUP]for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith. [SUP]27 [/SUP]For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ. [SUP]28 [/SUP]There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. [SUP]29 [/SUP]And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise." Glad 3:23-29

As Christians we are all heirs to the promise of God. There are no barriers, no obstacles between us, not even being wealthy or poor or whatever culture, or race or gender. Of course, this could also be twisted in other ways, so I am willing to concede that we need to look for verses that specifically deal with marriage across racial differences.

What a convoluted twisting. I don't think there was any juice in that orange to begin with.

God commanded the Israelites to be separate for spiritual reasons. Was God violating the unity of the brethren by commanding them to do so? No. There are much better verses to use, but out of a social pressure people leap to change verses so they can support their social ideas.


I am not advocating segregation at all. I recently got disfellowshiped from a theonomic group for defending interracial marriage. I just cringe at the manhandling of texts like the one you used, especially when there are better verses.

 

[JimJimmers]

I am not advocating segregation at all. I recently got disfellowshiped from a theonomic group for defending interracial marriage.

That disturbs me, that you were disfellowshipped. Sorry about that, but it's their loss. You can still be in The Solemn Order of the Jims, if it means anything to you.

 

[trukin]

see, i didnt think there was anything on that either but i didnt want to argue it with my wife, and just to say to Bookreader, no, my wife is not racist but she apparently doesnt believe in interracial marriage but yet its ok that two of her daughters are lesbian and its acceptable for that... dont let me get started on another subject....lol . anyway, i think her way of thinking is about when God scattered the people of babylonia that that has something to do with it,,,,idk?

 

[Tintin]

As long as a Christian marries someone of the opposite sex within the Body of Christ, I don't see why skin colour should matter.

 

[jimmydiggs]

That disturbs me, that you were disfellowshipped. Sorry about that, but it's their loss. You can still be in The Solemn Order of the Jims, if it means anything to you.

NBD, I was only part of the group for about a month. I was kind of out of place anyway. It was part of a belief called Kinism, and it sometimes overlaps with theonomy which attracts a lot of southerners.

 

[MrsAsghar]

now i say this as a black man,,,,,Leviticus 19;19,,,,,,,,do not plant different seed together,,,,,this is a difficult thing for me to say,,,gen.6;2,,,,,,,,"saw the daughters of men were fair",,,,,,,,,,now we have differing opinion's as to this. but let us separate it,,,that is god created both angels and man,,,,,,,and we see here in gen 6;2 the "planting of diverse seed in the same field",,,,,,,,,and we see it offended god.

now as the earth continued in the crossing of these certain creations god became the more angered,,,and he destroyed the creation,,,,now he points out that Noah was "perfect in his generations" gen. 6;9,,,,,now lets jump forward,,,,,,,,(you have already given the instance of Moses),,,,

now from Ezra ch. 6-9 we confront this again,,,,,,intermarriage,,,,but to the unlearned it is not well defined,,,,,,,that is(i will jump to the end product),,,,,,,god created white men,black men Chinese men ect. and man interbred these and removed the creation of god. again god created angels,and the daughters of men and they interbred and became another creature.

let us walk thru mall-mart together,,,,their is "health and beauty aids,,,there is the ethnic section,,,,,and the pet section",,,,,,,,,,,,i cannot shave with your products,you cannot shave with mine,,,,,i put this on my hair,but it will not work on yours,,,,,ect. "but we are neither of the two pets",,,,


you do not get cycle cell anemia i can,,,,you get illnesses i cannot catch.,,,,,,,god created angels in heaven,,,and they were not created to breed the bloodline of Christ out of existence,,,,god created black men and it was not intended for the white men to breed them out of existence. nor was the white race created to be bred out of existence by the black population.

in that day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there will be the angels that left not their estate,,,,,,the white man who left not their estate,,,,,,,,,,,,and the black man whom left not their estate,,,,,,,,,

there are those who cross seed and make it gmo,,,,,or hybrid,,,,,,,,who is more?,,,remaining the creation god made,,,,,or the other?,,,,,,,,,,,,

Thank you for sharing...I went and looked up your passages that you shared to see for myself in my NKJ Study Bible. In each instance they were talking about a godly man or woman marrying an ungodly (heathens) person. Telling us not to marry them so we would not be led astray and begin to believe their religions. It wasn't talking about a specific race of people not marrying another race. But your post was good and we all interpret things a little differently or were taught different.

The only places that I found that God spoke about who we should not marry, as many here said, being unequally yoked with an unbeliever, and someone also mentioned, not marrying homosexuals (man marrying man, woman marrying woman). I would also like to add that God also told us to not marry within our own blood families (brother marrying a sister/cousins marrying, etc.)

Thanks though for posting this, it makes us all want to dive into Gods word and check things out for ourselves. I thought maybe I missed something or misunderstood, so your post gave me a chance to double check and see for myself. If anything it confirmed what was already said about being unequally yoked, just spoken in a different way.

God bless

 

[Ariel82]

you do not get cycle cell anemia i can,,,,you get illnesses i cannot catch.,,,,,,,god created angels in heaven,,,and they were not created to breed the bloodline of Christ out of existence,,,,god created black men and it was not intended for the white men to breed them out of existence. nor was the white race created to be bred out of existence by the black population.

God created Adam and Eve. not white or black "races"

there is nothing in the Bible that supports the concept of PHYSICAL "races".

the Bible speaks against those who worship other gods and the SEED and remnant refers to Jesus and Abraham's Spiritual offspring not his physical blood offspring.

 

[Grandpa]

God created Adam and Eve. not white or black "races"

there is nothing in the Bible that supports the concept of PHYSICAL "races".

the Bible speaks against those who worship other gods and the SEED and remnant refers to Jesus and Abraham's Spiritual offspring not his physical blood offspring.

Would it really matter if the white race were "bred" out of existence or if the black race were "bred" out of existence and everyone was just a combination? I don't think so. I don't think a race is inherently bad or inclined to good. It just happens. Its what was chosen for you, I suppose.

We are called to crucify the flesh. I don't imagine it matters much as to what color it is.

 

[zone]

NBD, I was only part of the group for about a month. I was kind of out of place anyway. It was part of a belief called Kinism, and it sometimes overlaps with theonomy which attracts a lot of southerners.

k...just when i thought i knew every sect out there....

this idea is in the heart of all people.
the concept (family; traditions; culture) is fine.
what it inevitably seems comes down to, every single time is race.

and how on earth do you do anything (or not do anything) based on race?
it's a losing proposition every time, even if it starts out being simple preservation of 'heritage'.

why? because...no matter how sincerely any group sets out to "preserve" their "identity" - what do they have to do?
find out what their "identity" is - create an history even if one doesn't exist; start establishing "boundaries"...blah dee blah.

the boundary in the end will always come out being a visual identifier! eye color or skin color or some other dumb thing.


so this Kinism, though they say they aren't christian identity (white anglos who say they are ancient israel), how do they keep the crazies out once they narrowed it all down to a color?

we can't do better in the end than using COLORS to define ourselves?....arg.

i found this ironic bit on wiki:

"The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Kinism as "a new strain of racial separatism that wants America broken up into racial mini-states."

like....okay.

 

[Stephen63]

When Christ is the Lord of your life, you live your life based on His decisions, not yours. Even if the other person is a Christian, there can be problems due to not following the will of God. As a minister, if I'd married a Christian woman who wanted nothing to do with the ministry, that would be wrong, to say the least. It would be a constant burden and distraction from the ministry.
I agree with the person who wrote about prudence. Know what you getting into.

 

[Grandpa]

i found this ironic bit on wiki:

"The Southern Poverty Law Center has described Kinism as "a new strain of racial separatism that wants America broken up into racial mini-states."

like....okay.

Southern Poverty Law Center: Why should you be separated into racial mini-states?

kinism: Because we are better than they are.

Southern Poverty Law Center: How are you better?

kinism: Our trailers are cleaner than their trailers.

Southern Poverty Law Center: What about the inside?

kinism: No one cares about the inside. Its only the outside that matters.

lol. Well alrighty, then.

 

[Nancyer]

I never had a problem with interracial marriages. And I don't believe God does, either. I believe we should marry those who believe as we do and if one changes during the marriage then the believer sanctifies the non believer and can help to bring the non believer to belief, through actions and love not through guilt or condemnation, regardless of skin color or heredity. My parents had a big problem with it, though I never considered them racist. Marriage was the only area they thought races should stay separate. But my mom did tell me once, some years before she passed that she wished she could be as accepting of others as I am.

All are one in Christ!

My husband and I are NOT of different races or ethnicity but we are separated (not my idea) and I am still praying for my husband and his salvation.

 

[dyingeveryday]

Southern Poverty Law Center: Why should you be separated into racial mini-states?

kinism: Because we are better than they are.

Southern Poverty Law Center: How are you better?

kinism: Our trailers are cleaner than their trailers.

Southern Poverty Law Center: What about the inside?

kinism: No one cares about the inside. Its only the outside that matters.

lol. Well alrighty, then.

That was a joke and not a real quote I hope. lol.

 

[Grandpa]

That was a joke and not a real quote I hope. lol.

Yes. a joke. I probably should have said so earlier...

 

[dyingeveryday]

It's a difficult thing. I was raised by parents who were not visually racist. No Nazi flags or white power. However, if it came to an issue of interracial dating or marriage we would get a stern lecture about how wrong this was and how that would not be allowed in this house. I know this because of my sister. I have personally never dated anyone outside of my race. I have friends who are interracial couples. I have something inside of me that does desire to maintain my race and culture. We all have things inside of us that may not be right but are there. Whatever the opinion on interracial marriage you have to respect others decisions. You don't have to do them but you can't beat the world into submission and who would want to? The issue idea about babylonia, I've heard it a lot in this case. So you have that example and you have Christ. The verse that is coming to mind is Galations 5: 22-23. Also Proverbs 16: 18. These two things in mind. I would say racial issues are pride and fear. We have to empty out our own desires and things we were taught and discern what is good. I just can't see God punishing an interracial couple and not blessing the marriage of two people who love one another.

 

[Grandpa]

There are only racial issues because certain races think they are superior to certain other races. They then think if there is interracial marriage this will somehow dilute their superiority.

This is silly, imo. This is taking stereotypes and forcing them to be true on every single person in every single race. Not all black people are fast and can slam dunk a basketball. Not all oriental people are a whiz at math. Not all "jews" are rich and good with money.

But that sure would be a good combination, imo.

Have you ever seen the movie Bulworth? Hilarious. Especially what is said about race and racism.

 

[zone]

Southern Poverty Law Center: Why should you be separated into racial mini-states?

kinism: Because we are better than they are.

Southern Poverty Law Center: How are you better?

kinism: Our trailers are cleaner than their trailers.

Southern Poverty Law Center: What about the inside?

kinism: No one cares about the inside. Its only the outside that matters.

lol. Well alrighty, then.

 

[zone]

I have something inside of me that does desire to maintain my race and culture. We all have things inside of us that may not be right but are there.

nobody can say that is wrong in and of itself either.

 

[BibleEd]

Hi Trukin

In all different parts of the world this has become an issue. Advice from the bible never tells anyone not to marry someone because they have a different colour skin to us. However an important point is do they love the same God as i do? It is true that we are all humans and we should respect one another. However marriage is an extremely important commitment. The bible says ecclesisastes 4:12 says And if somebody could overpower one alone, two together could make a stand against him.+ And a threefold cord cannot quickly be torn in two.

So this is pointing out that with God in a marriage is so vital and strengthens it. If God differentiated people because of their colour he would of specefied who to preach to instead of what he says in Matthew 24:14 And this good news+ of the kingdom+ will be preached* in all the inhabited earth* for a witness* to all the nations;+ and then the end*+ will come.

Hope this helped!