Is having too much sin?

[Magenta]

Obviously and my statement is correct......the root of the evil is the LOVE of money....

If I say something caused me all kinds of trouble, am I saying that every trouble imaginable in the world was visited upon me due to whatever unfortunate circumstance prompted my statement in the first place? No, I do not believe it is saying that. The love of money is the root of much evil but not all, just all kinds, all kinds not meaning every imaginable sort, but certainly encompassing a wide variety I dare say being a lover of self underlies more sin and evil than the love of money does.

 

[dcontroversal]

If I say something caused me all kinds of trouble, am I saying that every trouble imaginable in the world was visited upon me due to whatever unfortunate circumstance prompted my statement in the first place? No, I do not believe it is saying that. The love of money is the root of much evil but not all, just all kinds, all kinds not meaning every imaginable sort, but certainly encompassing a wide variety I dare say being a lover of self underlies more sin and evil than the love of money does.

Sure and my original statement stands.....money is not evil....the love of it is.........

 

[Magenta]

Sure and my original statement stands.....money is not evil....the love of it is.........

Your original statement did not give the full verse meaning. I simply clarified to include the whole.

 

[RickyZ]

Re-read my post...the bible has some wealthy men that were righteous that GOD used to bless other's with....the bible does not say MONEY is evil.....it says the LOVE of money is evil.....

Who bough the tomb Jesus was laid in? What does the bible say about him?
Was Solomon lying when he said it was of GOD'S hand to enjoy the fruit of one's labor?
Was Solomon given wealth by GOD's hand?
The three wise men laid what at the feet of JESUS?
Was Job wealthy and what was his last estate?
Did God allow the HEBREWS to SPOIL the Egyptians?
The one given the most TALENTS....what was his reward when the MASTER came back

Your missing my point altogether because of your stance.....I am not saying that those that are uber wealthy should not give back and or denying what Jesus said to the PARTICULAR MEN and rich that he ADDRESSED.......

POINT BEING....just because a believer has wealth...it does not mean they are unfaithful, unusable and or in error because they have wealth.....MANY rich believers have done MANY wonderful things because of their wealth......regardless of the 46 scriptures that you can list bro!

I understand your point, and definitely God looks at what's in a person's heart more than He looks at what's in a person's bank account.

But I'm looking for scriptures, not your interpretations of scripture.

 

[dcontroversal]

I understand your point, and definitely God looks at what's in a person's heart more than He looks at what's in a person's bank account.

But I'm looking for scriptures, not your interpretations of scripture.

You could have stopped with the first statement and been good....

a. My OP was in response to the person who started the thread which was who exactly?
b. Your cited 46 verses are based upon your own opinion and interpretations.....!

SO.............................like the Aussies say....Whatevzzzzz!

 

[RickyZ]

You could have stopped with the first statement and been good....

a. My OP was in response to the person who started the thread which was who exactly?
b. Your cited 46 verses are based upon your own opinion and interpretations.....!

SO.............................like the Aussies say....Whatevzzzzz!

a. all threads drift; but the subject is in direct relation to the op question

b. those 46 scriptures included NOT A SINGLE WORD OF MINE. Those were all God's words, unadulterated by opinion and interpretation. All I was asking was the same from you. But if you feel your position is so week that you can't back it with unadulterated scripture, I understand. There's a lot of that going on these days.

 

[dcontroversal]

a. all threads drift; but the subject is in direct relation to the op question

b. those 46 scriptures included NOT A SINGLE WORD OF MINE. Those were all God's words, unadulterated by opinion and interpretation. All I was asking was the same from you. But if you feel your position is so week that you can't back it with unadulterated scripture, I understand. There's a lot of that going on these days.

Your mouthy comment was childish...and I did back my point with 7 biblical examples....so........again I will say...WHATEZZZ

Here I will post it again....answer all 7 questions!

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Re-read my post...the bible has some wealthy men that were righteous that GOD used to bless other's with....the bible does not say MONEY is evil.....it says the LOVE of money is evil.....

Who bough the tomb Jesus was laid in? What does the bible say about him?
Was Solomon lying when he said it was of GOD'S hand to enjoy the fruit of one's labor?
Was Solomon given wealth by GOD's hand?
The three wise men laid what at the feet of JESUS?
Was Job wealthy and what was his last estate?
Did God allow the HEBREWS to SPOIL the Egyptians?
The one given the most TALENTS....what was his reward when the MASTER came back?

Your missing my point altogether because of your stance.....I am not saying that those that are uber wealthy should not give back and or denying what Jesus said to the PARTICULAR MEN and rich that he ADDRESSED.......

POINT BEING....just because a believer has wealth...it does not mean they are unfaithful, unusable and or in error because they have wealth.....MANY rich believers have done MANY wonderful things because of their wealth......regardless of the 46 scriptures that you can list bro!

 

[PeterJens]

The seed falling among the thorns refers to someone who hears the word, but the worries of this life and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, making it unfruitful.
Matt 13:22

Those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge people into ruin and destruction.
1 Tim 6:9

Command those who are rich in this present world not to be arrogant nor to put their hope in wealth, which is so uncertain, but to put their hope in God, who richly provides us with everything for our enjoyment.
1 Tim 6:17

 

[Persuaded]

Is having too much a sin? I donno, let's see what God says:

1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is a root of all sorts of evil, and some by longing for it have wandered away from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

1 Timothy 3:3 not addicted to wine or pugnacious, but gentle, peaceable, free from the love of money.

Matthew 6:24 No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth.

Luke 16: No servant can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and wealth

Matthew 4:9-10 and he said to Him, "All these things I will give You, if You fall down and worship me." Then Jesus said to him, "Go, Satan! For it is written, 'YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND SERVE HIM ONLY.'"

James 4:4 You adulteresses, do you not know that friendship with the world is hostility toward God? Therefore whoever wishes to be a friend of the world makes himself an enemy of God.

Matthew 13:22 And the one on whom seed was sown among the thorns, this is the man who hears the word, and the worry of the world and the deceitfulness of wealth choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.

Mark 4:19 but the worries of the world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the desires for other things enter in and choke the word, and it becomes unfruitful.

Luke 8:14 The seed which fell among the thorns, these are the ones who have heard, and as they go on their way they are choked with worries and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to maturity.

Matthew 19:21-22Jesus said to him, "If you wish to be complete, go and sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when the young man heard this statement, he went away grieving; for he was one who owned much property.

Mark 10:21-22 Looking at him, Jesus felt a love for him and said to him, "One thing you lack: go and sell all you possess and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But at these words he was saddened, and he went away grieving, for he was one who owned much property.

Luke 18:22-23 When Jesus heard this, He said to him, "One thing you still lack; sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor, and you shall have treasure in heaven; and come, follow Me." But when he had heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich.

1 Timothy 6:17 Instruct those who are rich in this present world not to be conceited or to fix their hope on the uncertainty of riches, but on God, who richly supplies us with all things to enjoy.

Job 31:24-28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; If I have looked at the sun when it shone or the moon going in splendor, And my heart became secretly enticed, And my hand threw a kiss from my mouth, That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.

Psalm 52:6-7 The righteous will see and fear, And will laugh at him, saying, "Behold, the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."

Proverbs 11:28 He who trusts in his riches will fall, But the righteous will flourish like the green leaf.

Jeremiah 49:4 How boastful you are about the valleys! Your valley is flowing away, O backsliding daughter who trusts in her treasures, saying, 'Who will come against me?'

Ezekiel 28:5 By your great wisdom, by your trade You have increased your riches And your heart is lifted up because of your riches

Psalm 62:10 Do not trust in oppression and do not vainly hope in robbery; If riches increase, do not set your heart upon them.

Proverbs 18:23 The poor man utters supplications, But the rich man answers roughly.

Proverbs 28:11 The rich man is wise in his own eyes, But the poor who has understanding sees through him.

Job 20:17-20 He does not look at the streams, The rivers flowing with honey and curds. He returns what he has attained And cannot swallow it; As to the riches of his trading, He cannot even enjoy them. For he has oppressed and forsaken the poor; He has seized a house which he has not built. Because he knew no quiet within him, He does not retain anything he desires.

Proverbs 15:6 Great wealth is in the house of the righteous, But trouble is in the income of the wicked.

Proverbs 30:8-9 Keep deception and lies far from me, give me neither poverty nor riches; Feed me with the food that is my portion, That I not be full and deny You and say, "Who is the LORD?" Or that I not be in want and steal, And profane the name of my God.

Deuteronomy 32:15 Jeshurun grew fat and kicked; filled with food, they became heavy and sleek. They abandoned the God who made them and rejected the Rock their Savior.
Nehemiah 9:25-26 They captured fortified cities and a fertile land They took possession of houses full of every good thing, Hewn cisterns, vineyards, olive groves, Fruit trees in abundance So they ate, were filled and grew fat, And reveled in Your great goodness. "But they became disobedient and rebelled against You, And cast Your law behind their backs And killed Your prophets who had admonished them So that they might return to You, And they committed great blasphemies.

Hosea 13:6 As they had their pasture, they became satisfied, And being satisfied, their heart became proud; Therefore they forgot Me.

Proverbs 23:4 Do not weary yourself to gain wealth, Cease from your consideration of it.

Haggai 1:3-5 Then the word of the LORD came by Haggai the prophet, saying, "Is it time for you yourselves to dwell in your paneled houses while this house lies desolate?" Now therefore, thus says the LORD of hosts, "Consider your ways!

Luke 16:19-21 Now there was a rich man, and he habitually dressed in purple and fine linen, joyously living in splendor every day. And a poor man named Lazarus was laid at his gate, covered with sores, and longing to be fed with the crumbs which were falling from the rich man's table; besides, even the dogs were coming and licking his sores … 25 But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony

1 Timothy 6:8-9 If we have food and covering, with these we shall be content. But those who want to get rich fall into temptation and a snare and many foolish and harmful desires which plunge men into ruin and destruction.

Leviticus 19:13 You shall not oppress your neighbor, nor rob him. The wages of a hired man are not to remain with you all night until morning.

Deuteronomy 24:12-15 If he is a poor man, you shall not sleep with his pledge. When the sun goes down you shall surely return the pledge to him, that he may sleep in his cloak and bless you; and it will be righteousness for you before the LORD your God. You shall not oppress a hired servant who is poor and needy, whether he is one of your countrymen or one of your aliens who is in your land in your towns.

Proverbs 22:16 He who oppresses the poor to make more for himself or who gives to the rich, will only come to poverty.

Isaiah 1:23 Your rulers are rebels And companions of thieves; Everyone loves a bribe And chases after rewards. They do not defend the orphan, Nor does the widow's plea come before them.

Jeremiah 22:13 Woe to him who builds his house without righteousness And his upper rooms without justice, Who uses his neighbor's services without pay And does not give him his wages,

Micah 6:12 For the rich men of the city are full of violence, Her residents speak lies, And their tongue is deceitful in their mouth.

Malachi 3:5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; and I will be a swift witness against the sorcerers and against the adulterers and against those who swear falsely, and against those who oppress the wage earner in his wages, the widow and the orphan, and those who turn aside the alien and do not fear Me," says the LORD of hosts.

James 2:6 But you have dishonored the poor man. Is it not the rich who oppress you and personally drag you into court?

James 5:4 Behold, the pay off the laborers who mowed your fields, and which has been withheld by you, cries out against you; and the outcry of those who did the harvesting has reached the ears of the Lord of Sabbath.

Job 31:24, 25, 28 If I have put my confidence in gold, And called fine gold my trust, If I have gloated because my wealth was great, And because my hand had secured so much; ... That too would have been an iniquity calling for judgment, For I would have denied God above.

Psalm 52:7 Behold,the man who would not make God his refuge, But trusted in the abundance of his riches And was strong in his evil desire."

Proverbs 18:11 A rich man’s wealth is his strong city, And like a high wall in his own imagination.

Luke 12:20 "But God said to him, 'You fool! This very night your soul is required of you; and now who will own what you have prepared?'

James 5: 1Now listen, you rich people, weep and wail because of the misery that is coming on you. 2Your wealth has rotted, and moths have eaten your clothes. 3Your gold and silver are corroded. Their corrosion will testify against you and eat your flesh like fire. You have hoarded wealth in the last days. 4Look! The wages you failed to pay the workers who mowed your fields are crying out against you. The cries of the harvesters have reached the ears of the Lord Almighty. 5You have lived on earth in luxury and self-indulgence. You have fattened yourselves in the day of slaughter. 6You have condemned and murdered the innocent one, who was not opposing you.

Here is a verse for you Ricky--------
Romans 13:8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another----"

Do you have a home mortgage?
Do you have a car payment?
Do you have a credit card?

Who is the greater sinner, some one who saves money and pays cash for a home, car, unexpected expense, on the person that borrows money for such things?

 

[RickyZ]

Your mouthy comment was childish...and I did back my point with 7 biblical examples....so........again I will say...WHATEZZZ

Here I will post it again....answer all 7 questions!

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Re-read my post...the bible has some wealthy men that were righteous that GOD used to bless other's with....the bible does not say MONEY is evil.....it says the LOVE of money is evil.....

Who bough the tomb Jesus was laid in? What does the bible say about him?
Was Solomon lying when he said it was of GOD'S hand to enjoy the fruit of one's labor?
Was Solomon given wealth by GOD's hand?
The three wise men laid what at the feet of JESUS?
Was Job wealthy and what was his last estate?
Did God allow the HEBREWS to SPOIL the Egyptians?
The one given the most TALENTS....what was his reward when the MASTER came back?

Your missing my point altogether because of your stance.....I am not saying that those that are uber wealthy should not give back and or denying what Jesus said to the PARTICULAR MEN and rich that he ADDRESSED.......

POINT BEING....just because a believer has wealth...it does not mean they are unfaithful, unusable and or in error because they have wealth.....MANY rich believers have done MANY wonderful things because of their wealth......regardless of the 46 scriptures that you can list bro!

Again, my original post was 100% God's word straight from scripture without ANY embellishment by me... so if someone is being mouthy... it ain't me

All your underlined statements are 100% your interpretation. I'm just wondering if you have scripture to back those up. I know you could find some, if you looked. I took the time. You can't? You want me to look it up for you? Maybe I'll look up verses about laziness while I'm at it.

'Nuff said, it aint worth fighting over. Unless of course you wish to pony up scripture.

Here is a verse for you Ricky--------
Romans 13:8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another----"

Do you have a home mortgage?
Do you have a car payment?
Do you have a credit card?

Who is the greater sinner, some one who saves money and pays cash for a home, car, unexpected expense, on the person that borrows money for such things?

We carry no credit card debt. We pay those off in full every month. If we don't have the money to cover it, we don't buy it on credit.

That goes for our cars too. On the rare occasion we have ever taken a car loan, we paid it off waaaaaaaay ahead of schedule. Our 2 current cars we paid cash for. And once we finish moving we'll drop to one car, since at that time we won't need 2. I hate debt! Just as much as I hate money grubbers.

Do have a home loan; we're paying that off at an accelerated rate and only owe about 5% of what the property is worth.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Can't pin the hypocrite charge on this one.


The point is, with very few exceptions, God overwhelmingly speaks out against worldly riches. And I don't find any love at all in those trying to defend another position.

The op asks is having too much a sin?

I can show 46 scriptures that CLEARLY say yes. Dcon can only come up with 7 human examples that imply otherwise. I think the evidence in this case is overwhelmingly clear.

Matthew 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Sounds to me like the young man has a lot of company here.

 

[Persuaded]

Again, my original post was 100% God's word straight from scripture without ANY embellishment by me... so if someone is being mouthy... it ain't me

All your underlined statements are 100% your interpretation. I'm just wondering if you have scripture to back those up. I know you could find some, if you looked. I took the time. You can't? You want me to look it up for you? Maybe I'll look up verses about laziness while I'm at it.

'Nuff said, it aint worth fighting over. Unless of course you wish to pony up scripture.




We carry no credit card debt. We pay those off in full every month. If we don't have the money to cover it, we don't buy it on credit.

That goes for our cars too. On the rare occasion we have ever taken a car loan, we paid it off waaaaaaaay ahead of schedule. Our 2 current cars we paid cash for. And once we finish moving we'll drop to one car, since at that time we won't need 2. I hate debt! Just as much as I hate money grubbers.

Do have a home loan; we're paying that off at an accelerated rate and only owe about 5% of what the property is worth.

Sorry to burst your bubble. Can't pin the hypocrite charge on this one.


The point is, with very few exceptions, God overwhelmingly speaks out against worldly riches. And I don't find any love at all in those trying to defend another position.

The op asks is having too much a sin?

I can show 46 scriptures that CLEARLY say yes. Dcon can only come up with 7 human examples that imply otherwise. I think the evidence in this case is overwhelmingly clear.

Matthew 19:22 But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions.

Sounds to me like the young man has a lot of company here.

Good answer and great attitude.
We live a very frugal lifestyle and saved for 12 years before we paid cash for our home.
I have been driving the same 39 year old truck for 27 years and my wife has driven the same 27 year old SUV for 16 years.
I do have money set aside for repairs!
I hate debt. I wish more Christians hated debt.

 

[RickyZ]

Good answer and great attitude.
We live a very frugal lifestyle and saved for 12 years before we paid cash for our home.
I have been driving the same 39 year old truck for 27 years and my wife has driven the same 27 year old SUV for 16 years.
I do have money set aside for repairs!
I hate debt. I wish more Christians hated debt.

Thank you. And here I was spoiling for a fight JK!

And that's my point. If people like the Waltons would stop hording their riches and instead use the money to pay workers a living wage, then people like you would only have to drive for 15 years in a 20 year old truck

Of course I joke, but that's the problem. These days it's not really a joke.

 

[samuel23]

Yes, it probably is a sin to have too much stuff.

 

[RickyZ]

Been fun, gotta go eat. Honey, what's for supper? SOS AGAIN???

 

[Persuaded]

Thank you. And here I was spoiling for a fight JK!

And that's my point. If people like the Waltons would stop hording their riches and instead use the money to pay workers a living wage, then people like you would only have to drive for 15 years in a 20 year old truck

Of course I joke, but that's the problem. These days it's not really a joke.

Careful with the blaming the Waltons!
Their pay scale is above average here in Arkansas and most are very happy with their jobs.
I know there are exceptions, but most people can only blame themselves for their financial problems.
They are not willing to save because they want it now.

 

[dcontroversal]

Here I will post it again....answer all 7 questions!

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Re-read my post...the bible has some wealthy men that were righteous that GOD used to bless other's with....the bible does not say MONEY is evil.....it says the LOVE of money is evil.....

a. Who bough the tomb Jesus was laid in? What does the bible say about him?
b. Was Solomon lying when he said it was of GOD'S hand to enjoy the fruit of one's labor?
c. Was Solomon given wealth by GOD's hand?
d. The three wise men laid what at the feet of JESUS?
e. Was Job wealthy and what was his last estate?
f. Did God allow the HEBREWS to SPOIL the Egyptians?
g. The one given the most TALENTS....what was his reward when the MASTER came back?

a. Matthew 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:

b. Ecclesiastes 2:24 There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.

c. 1st Kings 3:13 King James Bible And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.

d. Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

e. Job 42:12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

f. Exodus 12:36 The LORD caused the Egyptians to look favorably on the Israelites, and they gave the Israelites whatever they asked for. So they stripped the Egyptians of their wealth!

g. Matthew 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. <--talent is GOLD

Let me tell you something pal....IF I MAKE statements about the bible, you would do well to understand I can back them up...Your attitude has been condescending toward anyone who disagrees with your xx amount of scriptures that you have gone to seed on....the bible contains BALANCE and GOD has used RICH MEN and poor men to work his will...rich men who WERE faithful and true disciples......!

 

[Persuaded]

Here I will post it again....answer all 7 questions!

Originally Posted by dcontroversal

Re-read my post...the bible has some wealthy men that were righteous that GOD used to bless other's with....the bible does not say MONEY is evil.....it says the LOVE of money is evil.....

a. Who bough the tomb Jesus was laid in? What does the bible say about him?
b. Was Solomon lying when he said it was of GOD'S hand to enjoy the fruit of one's labor?
c. Was Solomon given wealth by GOD's hand?
d. The three wise men laid what at the feet of JESUS?
e. Was Job wealthy and what was his last estate?
f. Did God allow the HEBREWS to SPOIL the Egyptians?
g. The one given the most TALENTS....what was his reward when the MASTER came back?

a. Matthew 27:57 When the even was come, there came a rich man of Arimathaea, named Joseph, who also himself was Jesus' disciple:

b. Ecclesiastes 2:24 There is nothing better for a man, than that he should eat and drink, and that he should make his soul enjoy good in his labour. This also I saw, that it was from the hand of God.

c. 1st Kings 3:13 King James Bible And I have also given thee that which thou hast not asked, both riches, and honour: so that there shall not be any among the kings like unto thee all thy days.

d. Matthew 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.

e. Job 42:12 So the LORD blessed the latter end of Job more than his beginning: for he had fourteen thousand sheep, and six thousand camels, and a thousand yoke of oxen, and a thousand she asses.

f. Exodus 12:36 The LORD caused the Egyptians to look favorably on the Israelites, and they gave the Israelites whatever they asked for. So they stripped the Egyptians of their wealth!

g. Matthew 25:28 Take therefore the talent from him, and give it unto him which hath ten talents. <--talent is GOLD

Let me tell you something pal....IF I MAKE statements about the bible, you would do well to understand I can back them up...Your attitude has been condescending toward anyone who disagrees with your xx amount of scriptures that you have gone to seed on....the bible contains BALANCE and GOD has used RICH MEN and poor men to work his will...rich men who WERE faithful and true disciples......!

The bible is full of rich men that God has used for His honor and glory.
While I have never work for the sake of gaining riches, God has blessed me beyond measure.
I love my old truck, its like family!
I do not consider myself rich, but the tax man seems to think differently.

 

[dcontroversal]

The bible is full of rich men that God has used for His honor and glory.
While I have never work for the sake of gaining riches, God has blessed me beyond measure.
I love my old truck, its like family!
I do not consider myself rich, but the tax man seems to think differently.

I know brother....and the argument and rejection of my first through fourth post sets forth ignorance.....I am about ready to quit responding to the ignorance that pours forth from some on this site........

 

[notuptome]

Pr 30:8 Remove far from me vanity and lies: give me neither poverty nor riches; feed me with food convenient for me:

For the cause of Christ
Roger

 

[RickyZ]

I know brother....and the argument and rejection of my first through fourth post sets forth ignorance.....I am about ready to quit responding to the ignorance that pours forth from some on this site........

Me too pal, me too.

I gave scripture

You gave commentary

I asked for scripture

You gave more commentary

I asked yet again for scripture, without commentary

You finally ponied up scripture, but still with commentary.

Excuse me if I prefer God's words over yours.

Only the truly ignorant puts his word over God's.