Is it right for Christains to reject the “Feast of Tabernacles?”

unobtrusive · Sep 30, 2017

The Feast of Tabernacles is a “Holy Convocation (a rehearsal) that will be observed in the millennial reign of Christ, every year. Today is the “Day of Atonement,” and after 5 days is the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day of the “Feast of Tabernacles.”

There are many religious denominations today that say that the law of God (The Mosaic law) is null and void because of the New Testament Gospel. Knowing that the instructions for Feast of Tabernacles are written within the “Law of Moses” (God’s instruction for Israel), is this part of the curse of the law that we are freed from due to the Gospel? Is the law that exposes sin related to sin, giving these denominational doctrines the necessity to dispose of the law through Christ?

Wouldn’t it be wise to rehearse for His reign as the King of all kings knowing by the signs that it won’t be long before His return?

The following, in (Zechariah 14: 1-9, and 16-19), is one of the prophecies concerning the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] advent and the millennial reign of Christ Jesus the Lord and King of kings

1 Behold, a day is coming for the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you.
2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle.
4 In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.
5 You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him!
6 In that day there will be no light; the luminaries will dwindle.
7 For it will be a unique day which is known to the Lord, neither day nor night, but it will come about that at evening time there will be light. (see Revelation 22:5)
8 And in that day living waters will flow out of Jerusalem, half of them toward the eastern sea and the other half toward the western sea; it will be in summer as well as in winter.
God Will Be King over All
9 And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one.

16 Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.
17 And it will be that whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, there will be no rain on them.
18 If the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no rain will fall on them; it will be the plague with which the Lord smites the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.

Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

unobtrusive said:

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Psalms 74:4, “Your adversaries have roared In the midst of Your appointments; They have set up their own signs as signs.”[/FONT]

Zecharyah 14:17-18, "And it shall be, that if anyone of the clans of the earth does not come up to Yerushalayim to bow himself to the Sovereign, יהוה of hosts, on them there is to be no rain. On them is the plague with which יהוה plagues the nations who do not come up to celebrate the Festival of Sukkot."

Zecharyah 14:16-21, "16, And it shall be that all who are left from all the nations which came up against Yerushalayim, shall go up from year to year to bow themselves to the Sovereign, יהוה of hosts, and to celebrate the Festival of Sukkot. 17, And it shall be, that if anyone of the clans of the earth does not come up to Yerushalayim to bow himself to the Sovereign, יהוה of hosts, on them there is to be no rain. 18, And if the clan of Mitsrayim does not come up and enter in, then there is no rain. On them is the plague with which יהוה plagues the nations who do not come up to celebrate the Festival of Sukkot. 19, This is the punishment of Mitsrayim and the punishment of all the nations that do not come up to celebrate the Festival of Sukkot. 20, In that day “SET-APART TO יהוה" shall be engraved on the bells of the horses. And the pots in the House of יהוה shall be like the bowls before the sacrifice-place. 21, And every pot in Yerushalayim and Yehuḏah shall be set-apart to יהוה of hosts. And all those who sacrifice shall come and take them and cook in them. And there shall no longer be a merchant in the House of יהוה of hosts, in that day.”

Isayah 66:21-24, “And from them too I shall take for priests – for Lĕwites,” declares יהוה. For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make stand before Me,” declares יהוה, “so your seed and your name shall stand. And it shall be that from New moon to New moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before Me,” declares יהוה. And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm shall not die, and their fire not be quenched. And they shall be repulsive to all flesh!”

posthuman · Sep 30, 2017

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Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

Colossians 2 is without a doubt a much debated and misunderstood passage, lets review it in context of the time frame, people who it was written about, the person who wrote it, the culture, the Law of the Most High and law of that time enforced by the religious leaders.

Colossians 2:16-23, "16 Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths, 17 which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body [is] of the Christ; 18 let no one beguile you of your prize, delighting in humble-mindedness and [in] worship of the messengers, intruding into the things he hath not seen, being vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh, 19 and not holding the head, from which all the body — through the joints and bands gathering supply, and being knit together — may increase with the increase of God. 20 If, then, ye did die with the Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances? 2 thou may not touch, nor taste, nor handle — 22 which are all for destruction with the using, after the commands and teachings of men, 23 which are, indeed, having a matter of wisdom in will-worship, and humble-mindedness, and neglecting of body — not in any honor, unto a satisfying of the flesh."

16 “Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,”

For Doing or not doing? Or Both? If we look at this verse in the context of the time and culture it was written in we may have an idea. The Pharisees and Sadducees were of the ruling class religiously, socially and economically. After captive Israyl left Babylon the calendar was altered and so were the Feast Days of YHWH, so if an individual did not keep a Feast Day according to what the Pharisees said they could be killed. 23 vols of man made “law” were made, now called the Babylonian Talmud, this is not the Law of the Most High and is purely man made religion.

The prophet Zecharyah was killed over this very matter and Yahshua Himself mentioned the murder;

Matthew 23:34-35, “Because of this, see, I send you prophets, and wise men, and scholars of Scripture, Some of them you shall kill and impale, and some of them you shall flog in your congregations and persecute from city to city, so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar."

The prophet Zecharyah (father of John the baptist) had a disagreement with the Pharisees about what day to keep the Day of Atonement, they commanded him to not honor it on the day YHWH said to but to rather honor the day they supplied, “the tradition of the elders”. Zecharyah chose to obey YHWH, and his body was killed because of it, and as we just read Yahshua scolded them on this matter.

And the Pharisess accused Yahshua and His disciples because they did not wash their hands before they ate:

Matthew 15:1-2, “Then there came to יהושע scribes and Pharisees from Yerushalayim, saying, Why do Your taught ones transgress the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat bread.”

Now back to Colossians 2:

16 “Let no one, then, judge you in eating or in drinking, or in respect of a feast, or of a new moon, or of sabbaths,”

17 “which are a shadow of the coming things, and the body [is] of the Christ;”

Coming things, and this translation is true the konie Greek. What coming things? The prophecies of YHWH or the “shadow”, the 7 Feast Days are prophetic shadow pictures, the first 3 of the Messiah’s work as a Lamb, the last 4 of His return as a Lion.

18 “let no one beguile you of your prize, delighting in humble-mindedness and [in] worship of the messengers, intruding into the things he hath not seen, being vainly puffed up by the mind of his flesh,”

Are prophecies about the Messiah things of the flesh?

I want to focus on 20-23, as to see context. Shaul/Paul, in nearly all his thoughts talks about a topic and then goes on to explain, he uses an advanced style of writing as his (worldly) education was beyond that of the other NT writers.

20 If, then, ye did die with the Christ from the rudiments of the world, why, as living in the world, are ye subject to ordinances?

So he is saying if your dead to the world why would you subject yourself to its (the worlds) ordinances. To think he is saying if your dead to the world then why would you subject yourself to Feast Days of YHWH would make no sense, for the 7th day Sabbath and the Feast Days of YHWH are not worldly, they are from YHWH, but Paul explains it further.

21 thou may not touch, nor taste, nor handle

The pharisees had a law (man made) in which you could not eat meat and cheese together, or even within 4 hours of each other. Now this is not in YHWH's Law. The origin, from which they made their own law does however come from YHWH's Law; as it says “don't boil a baby goat in its mothers milk” (3 times) (the local pagans had this as a religious practice YHWH did not want His people to partake in these evil pagan practices) the pharisees using something called "midrashic interpretation" the pharisees looked at it and said well since it says this three times it must meant three different things. SO THEY MADE UP THEIR OWN LAW, that was completely disconnected from Scripture, is not a part of Scripture and enforced it as Law. SO Paul’s context, customs and understanding is much different from our modern day perspective.

22 which are all for destruction with the using, after the commands and teachings of men,

So here very clearly he states "after the commandments of men", now if you read from 16-20 you see he stays on topic, and 20 says basically if your dead to the world why do what the world tells you to do? So we can see he is still on this topic from v16. In this verse 22, he says "which are all for destruction", how does Sabbath lead to destruction and it would also have to be a "commandment of men" if there is any commandment that is the farthest thing possible from being a "commandment of men" it is the Sabbath, it was from creation and it shows the AUTHORITY of the Creator, the mark of the Creator, as He rested on the 7th day of creation. Also tying a "commandment of men" to destruction Romans 8:13, "For if you live according to the commandments of men, you will die; but if, through the Spirit, you put to death; put an end to, the evildoing of mankind, you will live."

23 which are, indeed, having a matter of wisdom in will-worship, and humble-mindedness, and neglecting of body — not in any honor, unto a satisfying of the flesh.

The act of pleasing the pharisees by following their Talmud/heir man made laws, would be “after the commandments and teachings of men v22” and “a satisfying of the flesh v23.”

For the pharisees would have a problem if you did things according to YHWH's instruction and not their Talmud/man made law, called the “ORAL LAW”, and this is shown in the Scriptures: MATT 15, 23, mark 7:7-9, etc If you kept the Sabbath NOT according to the Talmud but according to the Scriptures the Pharisees would have a problem.

Matt 12:10 & 12, "And, behold, there was a man who had a withered hand. Then they asked Him, saying; Is it lawful to heal on the Sabbath Days?--so that they might accuse Him."And how much more valuable is a man than a sheep? Therefore, it is Lawful to do righteousness on the Sabbath."

The "Rabbis" also made their own holidays, Haunnaka and Rosh Hashanna and more. when they left Babylon they even changed the names of the moons (months), and Rosh hashanna even changes the time of the new year from the 1st month to the 7th month, this is clearly a “commandments and ordinances of men”. The calendar YHWH created is YHWH's calendar, the one who created it created the heavens and the earth, thus it is calculated by the heavens, the moon in this case. Our current calendar is the Gregorian calendar, which is an updated version of the Babylonian calendar. YHWH said the days end and begin at sunset, not the "Rabbis/Pharisees/Etc." Since the Pharisees/"Rabbis" made up their own, times/ways to keep their own made up "feast days", if you did not submit to the Pharisees they would seek to have you brought to trial, beat, imprisoned, or even killed you for not honoring their non-Scriptural days based in man’s tradition. The Talmud tells a story of Zacharyah, father of John the baptist, and OT prophet, disagreeing and wanting to follow YHWH Feast Days according to the Scriptures, and the head Pharisees told him, on threat of death, to appear in public on a Scriptural Feast Day in a way that the man can not honor YHWH as prescribed in the Scriptures, thus commanding him to disobey YHWH. They killed him for seeking to honor YHWH, His way and not their man made religious tradition. Yahshua spoke of this, but many have no clue of the history behind it;

Mat 23:35, "so that on you should come all the righteous blood shed on the earth, from the blood of righteous Heḇel to the blood of Zeḵaryah, son of Bereḵyah, whom you murdered between the Dwelling Place and the altar."

2Chron 24:20-21, "Then the Spirit of the Most High came upon Zeḵaryah son of Yehoyaḏa the priest, who stood above the people, and said to them, “Thus said the Most High, ‘Why are you transgressing the commands of יהוה, and do not prosper? Because you have forsaken יהוה, He has forsaken you. And they conspired against him, and at the command of the sovereign they stoned him with stones in the courtyard of the House of יהוה."

Rosh Hashanah (New Year)
Rosh Hashanah occurs on the first and second days of Tishri (the 7th moon or month, YHWH's year starts in the 1st month). In Hebrew, Rosh Hashanah means, literally, "head of the year" or "first of the year." Rosh Hashanah is commonly known as the Jewish New Year.

How does the year start in the 7th month? According to the Scriptures and YHWH's calendar the year starts in the 1st month, Abib.

Chanukkah
On the 25th of Kislev are the days of Chanukkah, which are eight... these were appointed a Festival with Hallel [prayers of praise] and thanksgiving. -Shabbat 21b, Babylonian Talmud

Tu B'Shevat
There are four new years... the first of Shevat is the new year for trees according to the ruling of Beit Shammai; Beit Hillel, however, places it on the fifteenth of that month. -Mishnah Rosh Hashanah 1:1

Purim
Is one of the most joyous and fun holidays on the Jewish calendar. It commemorates a time when the Jewish people living in Persia were saved from extermination.

Tisha B'Av
Five misfortunes befell our fathers... on the ninth of Av....On the ninth of Av it was decreed that our fathers should not enter the [Promised] Land, the Temple was destroyed the first and second time, Bethar was captured and the city [Jerusalem] was ploughed up. -Mishnah Ta'anit 4:6

Feasts that YHWH says should be kept for all generations are promoted in the NT:

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Therefore, purge out the old leaven, that you may be a new batch, since you are unleavened. For truly Yahshua our Passover was sacrificed for us. Therefore, let us keep the Feast, not with bold leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

keep the Feast is word #1858. heortazo, Heortazo: I keep a feast, Part of Speech: Verb, Transliteration: heortazo, Phonetic Spelling: (heh-or-tad'-zo)
Short Definition: I keep a feast, Definition: I take part in a festival, keep a feast

Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

Acts 18:21, “But bade them farewell, saying, I must by all means keep this Feast that cometh in Jerusalem: but I will return again unto you, if Yah will. And he sailed from Ephesus.”

Acts 27:9, “Much time had been lost, and sailing had already become dangerous because by now it was after the Day of Atonement. So Paul warned them.”

“Day of Atonement” is word #G3521 in Strong's Concordance – nésteia, nésteia: fasting, a fast, Original Word: νηστεία, ας, ἡ, Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine, Transliteration: nésteia, Phonetic Spelling: (nace-ti'-ah), Short Definition: fasting, the day of atonement, Definition: fasting, the day of atonement.

Acts 20:16, “Paul had decided to sail past Ephesus to avoid spending time in the province of Asia, for he was in a hurry to reach Jerusalem, if possible, by the day of Pentecost.”

unobtrusive · Sep 30, 2017

Hizikyah said:

So, by the way you write, it appears to me that you know how to observe the "Feast of Tabernacles," in relation to the New testament.

1. Can you explain what the spiritual relationship of the foliage is that is used to make Succoth (a sukkot)?
2. Do you know what the spiritual meaning of the daily sacrifices that were (are) offered during that 8 day period?

I think that would be important in relation to the New Covenant Gospel. In other words, how are we supposed to observe the spiritual depth presented by the physical in this particular feast? Thanks in advance, if you have any spiritual enlightening insight that you can share with us.

Nehemiah6 · Sep 30, 2017

All the feasts, festivals, ceremonies, sacrifices, and temple services of the Old Covenant came to an end when the Lamb of God cried out on the Cross -- in victory -- "IT IS FINISHED".

Does it mean nothing to you that God Himself tore that curtain in the temple to demonstrate that a New Covenant had been established? And there is no Feast of Tabernacles in the New Covenant.

Please note that for Christians to revive this feast would be to reject the finished work of Christ, since sacrifice are required in this feast.

33 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

34 Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, The fifteenth day of this seventh month shall be the feast of tabernacles for seven days unto the LORD.

35 On the first day shall be an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. (Lev 23:33-36).

36 Seven days ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: on the eighth day shall be an holy convocation unto you; and ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto the LORD: it is a solemn assembly; and ye shall do no servile work therein.

MarcR · Sep 30, 2017

unobtrusive said:

The Feast of Tabernacles is a “Holy Convocation (a rehearsal) that will be observed in the millennial reign of Christ, every year. Today is the “Day of Atonement,” and after 5 days is the 1[SUP]st[/SUP] day of the “Feast of Tabernacles.”

There are many religious denominations today that say that the law of God (The Mosaic law) is null and void because of the New Testament Gospel. Knowing that the instructions for Feast of Tabernacles are written within the “Law of Moses” (God’s instruction for Israel), is this part of the curse of the law that we are freed from due to the Gospel? Is the law that exposes sin related to sin, giving these denominational doctrines the necessity to dispose of the law through Christ?

Wouldn’t it be wise to rehearse for His reign as the King of all kings knowing by the signs that it won’t be long before His return?

The following, in (Zechariah 14: 1-9, and 16-19), is one of the prophecies concerning the 2[SUP]nd[/SUP] advent and the millennial reign of Christ Jesus the Lord and King of kings

1 Behold, a day is coming for the Lord when the spoil taken from you will be divided among you.
2 For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city will be captured, the houses plundered, the women ravished and half of the city exiled, but the rest of the people will not be cut off from the city.
3 Then the Lord will go forth and fight against those nations, as when He fights on a day of battle.
4 In that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, which is in front of Jerusalem on the east; and the Mount of Olives will be split in its middle from east to west by a very large valley, so that half of the mountain will move toward the north and the other half toward the south.
5 You will flee by the valley of My mountains, for the valley of the mountains will reach to Azel; yes, you will flee just as you fled before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord, my God, will come, and all the holy ones with Him!
6 In that day there will be no light; the luminaries will dwindle.
7 For it will be a unique day which is known to the Lord, neither day nor night, but it will come about that at evening time there will be light. (see Revelation 22:5)
8 And in that day living waters will flow out of Jerusalem, half of them toward the eastern sea and the other half toward the western sea; it will be in summer as well as in winter.
God Will Be King over All
9 And the Lord will be king over all the earth; in that day the Lord will be the only one, and His name the only one.

16 Then it will come about that any who are left of all the nations that went against Jerusalem will go up from year to year to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.
17 And it will be that whichever of the families of the earth does not go up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, there will be no rain on them.
18 If the family of Egypt does not go up or enter, then no rain will fall on them; it will be the plague with which the Lord smites the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.
19 This will be the punishment of Egypt, and the punishment of all the nations who do not go up to celebrate the Feast of (Tabernacles) Booths.

We are told:

Col 2:16-17
16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
KJV

that believers are to follow their own conscience regarding the keeping of the appointed times until Jesus returns.

(Zechariah 14: 1-9, and 16-19) tells us that observance of Sukkot (Tabernacles) will be mandatory during the millennial reign of Jesus.

Both are true and we should not try to impose what is required at one time on that which is not required at another.

unobtrusive · Sep 30, 2017

Nehemiah6 said:

I will add to your quote on Leviticus 23. Verse 41 as follows. "And ye shall keep it a feast unto the Lord seven days in the year. It shall be a statute for ever in your generations: ye shall celebrate it in the seventh month."

Does "for ever" mean "not any more" because its bad leaven through the gospel of Jesus Christ? Is this just for Israelites even today, or do you think that in Paul's writing that there is no difference between the Jew and the Greek means there is still a difference these days too?

If I were a Jew, should I reject these things according to your traditions? If so, that induces an anti-Semitic hostile gospel.

What is your definition of the millennial reign of Christ in Zechariah 14: 1-19, relating that scripture to Leviticus 23:39-42, Nehemiah 8:13-16, and Numbers 29:12-35, or haven't you ever studied these things thinking it was unnecessary?

Jesus thought it necessary in respect to His ministry for us. John 7:1-14

Does observing these things actually negate what Christ has done for us, or does it complement what He has done for us?

Aren't we to be conformed into His image?

trofimus · Sep 30, 2017

"Is it right for Christains to reject the “Feast of Tabernacles?”

Yes. We do not live by premature images, but by reality in Christ.

Bogadile · Sep 30, 2017

Nehemiah6 said:

I thought you believed all the feasts sacifices and ceremonies come back though? Is that not the standard dispensationalist package?

7seasrekeyed · Sep 30, 2017

let's see...it's Saturday

must be time for the sabbath day keeping and feast argument package again

unobtrusive · Sep 30, 2017

MarcR said:

With all due respect of your well deserved prowess, does not the scripture you quoted refer to those who ridicule believers for observing God's ordinances, Paul endorsing to the Colossians, not to depart from the truth just because they are ridiculed by pagans and unbelievers? I think so, because "Tabernacles" is a rehearsal i.e. preparing us today for something to come in the future.

For my own understanding, in context, I have to add the very next verse 18 to this scripture you quoted. "Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,"

Beguile = defrauding the prize of victory.

To me, this describes prideful pagan worship, practiced by those who unrighteously judge the church for observing these defined convocations according to the original God given intent.

[SUP]"[/SUP]Therefore no one is to act as your judge in regard to food or drink or in respect to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath day, things which are a mere shadow of what is to come; but the substance belongs to Christ. Let no one keep [SUP]*[/SUP]defrauding you of your prize by delighting in self-abasement and the worship of the angels, taking his stand (going into detail) on visions he has seen, inflated (egos) without cause by his fleshly mind," (Colossians 2:16-18 NASB) The CJB is even more explicit.

*Defrauding = deciding against you.. sounds to me like pagan worshippers amongst the ranks who are the cause of the trouble that the church is facing for obeying the scriptures.

Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

unobtrusive said:

Leviticus 23:34-36, "Speak to the children of Yisra’ĕl, saying, ‘On the fifteenth day of this seventh new moon is the Festival of Sukkote for seven days to יהוה. On the first day is a set-apart gathering, you do no servile work. For seven days you bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. On the eighth day there shall be a set-apart gathering for you, and you shall bring an offering made by fire to יהוה. It is a closing festival, you do no servile work."

Yes. The first and last days are "high" days or set-apart gatherings with Yah, I believe the booth being made of natural elemants is in line with the overall lesson, our flesh and desires in the current world are temporary, the 7 days offering by fire is represntative of the trial the human undergoes on earth. Endure until the end comes to mind, what is seen is temporary what is unseen is eternal...

1 Peter 1:3-9, “Blessed be the Strength and Father of our Master יהושע Messiah, who according to His great compassion has caused us to be born again to a living expectation through the resurrection of יהושע Messiah from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and unfading, having been kept in the heavens for you, who are protected by the power of Yah through belief, for a deliverance ready to be revealed in the last time, in which you exult, even though for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by manifold trials, in order that the proving of your belief – much more precious than gold that perishes, and proven by fire – might be found to result in praise and respect and esteem at the revelation of יהושע Messiah, whom having not seen, you love; in whom you exult with unspeakable and esteemed joy, yet not seeing, but believing, obtaining the goal of your belief: a deliverance of lives."

1 Peter 4:12-19, “Beloved ones, do not be surprised at the fiery trial that is coming upon you, to try you, as though some unusual matter has befallen you, but as you share Messiah’s sufferings, rejoice, in order that you might rejoice exultingly at the revelation of His esteem. If you are reproached for the Name of Messiah, you are blessed, because the Spirit of esteem and of Yah rests upon you. On their part He is blasphemed, but on your part He is praised. For do not let any of you suffer as a murderer, or thief, or doer of evil, or as a meddler. But if one suffers being of Messiah, let him not be ashamed, but let him esteem Yah in this matter. Because it is time for judgment to begin from the House of Yah. And if firstly from us, what is the end of those who do not obey the Good News of Yah? And if the righteous one is scarcely saved, where shall the wicked and the sinner appear? So then, those who suffer according to the desire of Yah should commit their lives to a trustworthy Creator, in doing good."

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]John 14:1-3, “Let not your heart be troubled. Believe in the Most High, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many houses. And if not, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you, and if I go and prepare a place for you, I shall come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, you might be too.”[/FONT]

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Rev 20:4-6, "And I saw thrones – and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them – and the lives of those who had been beheaded because of the witness they bore to [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]יהושע [/FONT][FONT=Times New Roman, serif]and because of the Word of Yah, and who did not worship the beast, nor his image, and did not receive his mark upon their foreheads or upon their hands. And they lived and reigned with Messiah for a thousand years (and the rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended) – this is the first resurrection. Blessed and set-apart is the one having part in the first resurrection. The second death possesses no authority over these, but they shall be priests of Yah and of Messiah, and shall reign with Him a thousand years."[/FONT]

Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

Nehemiah6 said:

There are 2 It is done! statements by Yahshua, just as there are 2 comings,

1st as a suffering Lamb

John 19:30 , “So when יהושע took the sour wine He said, “It is done!” And bowing His head, He gave up His spirit.”

2nd as a conqueering Lion

Revelation 21:4-8, “And Yah shall wipe away every tear from their eyes, and there shall be no more death, nor mourning, nor crying. And there shall be no more pain, for the former matters have passed away. And He who was sitting on the throne said, “See, I make all matters new.” And He said to me, “Write, for these words are true and trustworthy. And He said to me, “It is done! I am the ‘Aleph’ and the ‘Taw’, the Beginning and the End. To the one who thirsts I shall give of the fountain of the water of life without payment. The one who overcomes shall inherit all this, and I shall be his Strength and he shall be My son. But as for the cowardly, and untrustworthy, and abominable, and murderers, and those who whore, and drug sorcerers, and idolaters, and all the false, their part is in the lake which burns with fire and sulphur, which is the second death.”

1 Corinthians 5:7-8, "Therefore cleanse out the old leaven, so that you are a new lump, as you are unleavened. For also Messiah our Passover was offered for us. So then let us observe the festival, not with old leaven, nor with the leaven of evil and wickedness, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth."

The 1st 3 Feasts are completed, the final 4, starting with the 4th Feast will be fulfilled upon His return

Psalm 81:3, “Blow a shophar (trumpet) in the New moon, in the covering for the day of our festival.”

Revelation 8:2, "And I saw the seven messengers who stand before Yah, and to them were given seven trumpets."

Revelation 5:5-6, “And one of the elders said to me, “Do not weep. See, the Lion of the tribe of Yehuḏah, the Root of Dawiḏ, overcame to open the scroll and to loosen its seven seals.” And I looked and saw in the midst of the throne and of the four living creatures, and in the midst of the elders a Lamb standing, as having been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of Yah sent out into all the earth.”

Revelation 11:15, “And the seventh messenger sounded his trumpet, and there came to be loud voices in the heaven, saying, “The reign of this world has become the reign of our Master, and of His Messiah, and He shall reign forever and ever!”

1 Corinthians 15:51-55, “See, I speak a secret to you: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed, in a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed. For this corruptible has to put on incorruption, and this mortal to put on immortality. And when this corruptible has put on incorruption, and this mortal has put on immortality, then shall come to be the word that has been written, “Death is swallowed up in overcoming. O Death, where is your sting? O grave, where is your overcoming?”

Mat 24:29-31, “And immediately after the distress of those days the sun shall be darkened, and the moon shall not give its light, and the stars shall fall from the heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken. And then the sign of the Son of Aḏam shall appear in the heaven, and then all the tribes of the earth shall mourn, and they shall see the Son of Aḏam coming on the clouds of the heaven with power and much esteem. And He shall send His messengers with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together His chosen ones from the four winds, from one end of the heavens to the other.”

MarcR · Sep 30, 2017

unobtrusive said:

unobtrusive,

I actually like your point of view; but you sometimes take it to the point of legalism, which is the primary error Jesus confronted in His teachings.

Your OP question "Is it right for Christains to reject the “Feast of Tabernacles?” seems to ask if they are required to observe it; to which the answer is NO.

If your question had been is it wrong for believers to belittle or criticize such observance; I would have answered yes that is wrong. The way you phrased the question didn't make it clear what you were asking.

unobtrusive · Sep 30, 2017

MarcR said:

I relate legalism to the Talmud, including church doctrines that redefine the truth of God's Word. Faith, the gift we cannot earn, comes before works, and legalism is man's interpretation of the truth, making it no truth.

MarcR · Sep 30, 2017

unobtrusive said:

As I understand it:

Scripture explicitly labels some actions as right and some actions as wrong. Those pronouncements are not arguable.

IMO legalism is taking any action not specifically addressed in Scripture and making a requirement that believers in general do or refrain from doing that action.

MattforJesus · Sep 30, 2017

Christians do not have to go by the feast of tabernacles,and since the heathen have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship the LORD,it was a very important occurrence to observe in the Old Testament.

Jesus took the physical ordinances out of the way,nailing them to His cross,for they were contrary to us,because they could not provide spiritual salvation,so let no person judge you concerning the physical ordinances of Israel.

Jesus said He did not come to destroy the law and prophets,but to fulfill them,which He is the perfect King,High Priest,Saint,Prophet,temple,sacrifice,and whatever else He had to fulfill.

But He did not fulfill the role of the perfect King on earth,which He will do in the millennial reign of Christ,and then heaven and earth shall pass away.

We go by love God,and love people,in the New Testament,and all the law and prophets hang on those 2 laws,which Jesus fulfilled,and will fulfill the role of perfect King in the future.

The disciples asked Jesus if He was going to restore the kingdom on earth to the Jews at that time,and He said the Father will do it in His time,but be concerned with preaching the Gospel.

Israel is blinded in part,until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in,and so all Israel shall be saved.

God will give the world 7 years to cause all people who do not love Him to follow the beast kingdom,and bring Israel to the truth.

God said He would bring back the captivity of Jacob,the whole house of Israel,and will not leave any of the Jews in the nations anymore.

The man of sin will establish peace in the Middle East,and it will pace the way for all Jews to go to Israel,and the Jews and Gentiles will be separated.

After three and one half years the man of sin claims to be God,and the Jews Messiah,and will address the world that he harnessed the power of nature,and obtained power,evolved,and convince all those that do not love God that he has the solution for peace to be on earth,and when the world takes the mark of the beast,then repentance,and salvation,is no longer available to the Gentiles,and the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.

God will send the Jews 2 witnesses and turn the nation of Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah for three and one half years.

After that period,the beast and the world attacks the Jews on their land,and God comes back with all His saints,and defeats the world,and saves Israel,and so all Israel shall be saved,and physical Israel is spiritual Israel as a nation.

God said He is going to make a full end of all Gentile nations,but will not make a full end of Israel,but will not leave them wholly unpunished,and when they have borne their shame,the kingdom will be restored to Israel,and the heathen shall know that God hid His face from Israel,because of their sins and iniquities against Him,but was actually on Israel's side all along,and when they have borne their shame,the kingdom will be restored to Israel,and they shall know the LORD their God from that day forward,and God will never hide His face from them.

God said as long as the ordinances in heaven are in affect,the sun,and moon,and stars,Israel will not cease from being a nation,which they never did cease from being God's people,and a nation,for Israel is the Church,and a Gentile is a Jew inward,and becomes part of the commonwealth of Israel,but it is a temporary set back of the kingdom on earth being Israel.

Israel is spiritual now,and have been ever since Jesus ascended to heaven,for there were Jews that followed Him in the truth,the same as today.

If some Jews reject,no matter the number,Israel is still spiritual,for Jesus said salvation is of the Jews,and the New Testament was given to them,and the Gentiles get to be along for the ride,which in the Spirit there is no difference between the Jew,and Gentile,and Peter said that God is no respecter of persons,but all who seek after Him and His righteousness is accepted by Him.

It is Israel from the start of Abraham,to the New Jerusalem,and the 12 tribes of Israel,and the 12 apostles of the Lamb are written in the New Jerusalem.

The heathen that God spared at the battle of Armageddon have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship the King,and keep the feast of tabernacles,and the reason they have to keep the feast of tabernacles is because they took the mark of the beast,and cannot have spiritual salvation,and the Holy Spirit,so they have to keep the feast of tabernacles to keep them right with God.

The saints in glorified bodies during the millennial reign do not have to keep the feast of tabernacles.

Since the heathen took the mark of the beast,and have no chance at salvation,they still have punishment coming when the millennial reign is over,for God postponed it until the reign is over so Jesus and the saints can rule over the heathen,and there will be no operating Gentile government,or nation,but only Israel.

Satan is bound in the bottomless pit for the 1000 years,and there is peace on earth,and then is loosed after the 1000 years,and deceives the heathen to go against the saints,and when they go against the saints,then they receive punishment,and God reigns fire down on them,and consumes them.

The feast of tabernacles is not for the saints,but for the heathen in the millennial reign of Christ.

Hizikyah · Sep 30, 2017

The saints will be celebrating Yahweh's moadim in the kingdom according to Scripture;

Isaiah 66:20, “And they shall bring all your brothers as an offering to יהוה out of all the nations, on horses and in chariots and in litters, on mules and on camels, to My set-apart mountain Yerushalayim,” declares יהוה, “as the children of Yisra’ĕl bring an offering in a clean vessel into the House of יהוה."Isaiah 66:21, “And from them too I shall take for priests – for Lĕwites,” declares יהוה."Isaiah 66:22, “For as the new heavens and the new earth that I make stand before Me,” declares יהוה, “so your seed and your name shall stand."Isaiah 66:23, “And it shall be that from New moon to New moon, and from Sabbath to Sabbath, all flesh shall come to worship before Me,” declares יהוה. 24, “And they shall go forth and look upon the corpses of the men who have transgressed against Me. For their worm shall not die, and their fire not be quenched. And they shall be repulsive to all flesh!”

Isaiah 66:15, “For look, יהוה comes with fire and with His chariots, like a whirlwind, to render His displeasure with burning, and His rebuke with flames of fire."Isaiah 66:16, “For by fire and by His sword יהוה shall judge all flesh, and the slain of יהוה shall be many –"Isaiah 66:17, those who set themselves apart and cleanse themselves at the gardens after ‘one’ in the midst, eating flesh of pigs and the abomination and the mouse, are snatched away, together,” declares יהוה. And I, because of their works and their imaginations, am coming to gather all nations and tongues. And they shall come and see My esteem."

It is a great joy to celebrate His days rather than made up days that have nothing to do with Him but are supposedly for Him, I actually think they are awesome.

Is it right for Christains to reject the “Feast of Tabernacles?”

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