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Actually, you don't see much at all... but'cha think ya do
There's a whole grocery list of religions that do not go by what God teaches in His Word... please consult your favorite search engine for that list and start there.
The cathloholicks just happen to be the leaders in world wide deception who are deceiving more and more Christians in to following their error each and every day... so yeah, somebody needs to be "protesting" their false teachers... this is why I'm Protestant.
I first becamse aware of their false teachings when my sister had to renounce and disown being a born again Christian in front of a chatholick congregation before she could get married to her catholick boyfriend. it's evil stuff man...
There's a whole grocery list of religions that do not go by what God teaches in His Word... please consult your favorite search engine for that list and start there.
The cathloholicks just happen to be the leaders in world wide deception who are deceiving more and more Christians in to following their error each and every day... so yeah, somebody needs to be "protesting" their false teachers... this is why I'm Protestant.
I first becamse aware of their false teachings when my sister had to renounce and disown being a born again Christian in front of a chatholick congregation before she could get married to her catholick boyfriend. it's evil stuff man...
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Actually, you don't see much at all... but'cha think ya do
There's a whole grocery list of religions that do not go by what God teaches in His Word... please consult your favorite search engine for that list and start there.
There's a whole grocery list of religions that do not go by what God teaches in His Word... please consult your favorite search engine for that list and start there.
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No doubt I'm not a fan of the doctrine, but I do think it's important to try and reach the people who are being deceived by this old concept. I posted a thread about Jesus sisters names though it's a leap of faith.
though IMO it's far better than saying Mary was being concerned or compassionate for the people at the wedding who were in need of more wine thus becomes some kind of mediator because of it.
P.S.
Though I stand by the sister names...
though IMO it's far better than saying Mary was being concerned or compassionate for the people at the wedding who were in need of more wine thus becomes some kind of mediator because of it.
P.S.
Though I stand by the sister names...
Yes, I go to a church and you are probably one of the ones that thought Jesus was not walking in love the day He was sooooooooo rude to those people by turning over their money tables.
Yeah, the church I attend ain't got nuthin to do with the cathloholick and agreeing with them is not going to do anything to get them out... only the Holy Spirit and open the eyes of their understanding.
Yeah, the church I attend ain't got nuthin to do with the cathloholick and agreeing with them is not going to do anything to get them out... only the Holy Spirit and open the eyes of their understanding.
No doubt I'm not a fan of the doctrine, but I do think it's important to try and reach the people who are being deceived by this old concept. I posted a thread about Jesus sisters names though it's a leap of faith.
though IMO it's far better than saying Mary was being concerned or compassionate for the people at the wedding who were in need of more wine thus becomes some kind of mediator because of it.
P.S.
Though I stand by the sister names...
though IMO it's far better than saying Mary was being concerned or compassionate for the people at the wedding who were in need of more wine thus becomes some kind of mediator because of it.
P.S.
Though I stand by the sister names...
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I agree, and sometimes people have to point things out like what we are discussing here, though when ever doing so, it is better to offer a example or understanding of the issue as well. nobody is perfect in how people talk with each other and sometimes what we mean to say can come out differently than what we feel.
that ol saying "slow to speak quick to think" is of virtue, easier said then done sometimes. lol
that ol saying "slow to speak quick to think" is of virtue, easier said then done sometimes. lol
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This isn't a biblical concept. God forbids talking to the dead and no where is prayer to anyone but God sanctioned. As far as I can tell, this emerged out of the concept that Mary was sinless and a perpetual virgin, which directly contradicts the Bible. Also, the reasoning behind Mary being sinless doesn't make sense. People say that she couldn't have given birth to Jesus unless she was without sin, otherwise Jesus would have inherited her sin. But if God could keep her safe from sin in her mother's womb, then why couldn't He have done the same for Jesus?
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Yes there are quite a few issues with the concepts of the Catholics, the important thing to remember is Jesus inherited the world sins not by being commanded too by the Will of God but by surrendering His will to God, he carried those sins on his shoulders all the way to the skull mount, beaten and torn inside and out yet never once stopped loving all the people. For He wasn't on earth for His business but of His Father's business.
It's because catholics believe in the immaculate conception of Mary. They believe that God chose a sinless vessel to give birth to a sinless Jesus. What they ignore are the scriptures that state "For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God" (Romans 3:23). Only Jesus was sinless (the second Adam). No other. And God did not need a sinless vessel to give birth to a sinless Jesus, since Jesus was conceived by the Holy Spirit.
Based on this doctrine of theirs, to say Mary was sinless is to suggest she is equal to Jesus (even if catholics can't see this).
Also, the Hail Mary prayers are a request for intercession: "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of death. Amen"
The extra books in the catholic bible are what they use to support many of their teachings. But they also refer to the scripture that says to pray for each other, and because the "saints" are in Heaven, they don't believe praying to them is wrong, and they cite scriptures like the one that speaks of God not being a God of the dead, but a God of the living.
Copy/Paste Catholic Encyclopedia...
"The Hail Mary (sometimes called the "Angelical salutation", sometimes, from the first words in its Latin form, the "Ave Maria") is the most familiar of all the prayers used by the Universal Church in honour of our Blessed Lady.
It is commonly described as consisting of three parts. The first, "Hail (Mary) full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women", embodies the words used by the Angel Gabriel in saluting the Blessed Virgin (Luke, I, 28). The second, "and blessed is the fruit of thy womb (Jesus)", is borrowed from the Divinely inspired greeting of St. Elizabeth (Luke 1:42), which attaches itself the more naturally to the first part, because the words "benedicta tu in mulieribus" (I, 28) or "inter mulieres" (I, 42) are common to both salutations. Finally, the petition "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." is stated by the official "Catechism of the Council of Trent" to have been framed by the Church itself. "Most rightly", says the Catechism, "has the Holy Church of God added to this thanksgiving, petition also and the invocation of the most holy Mother of God, thereby implying that we should piously and suppliantly have recourse to her in order that by her intercession she may reconcile God with us sinners and obtain for us the blessing we need both for this present life and for the life which has no end."
Based on this doctrine of theirs, to say Mary was sinless is to suggest she is equal to Jesus (even if catholics can't see this).
Also, the Hail Mary prayers are a request for intercession: "Hail Mary, full of grace, the Lord is with thee; blessed art thou amongst women, and blessed is the fruit of thy womb, Jesus. Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners, now and at the hour of death. Amen"
The extra books in the catholic bible are what they use to support many of their teachings. But they also refer to the scripture that says to pray for each other, and because the "saints" are in Heaven, they don't believe praying to them is wrong, and they cite scriptures like the one that speaks of God not being a God of the dead, but a God of the living.
Copy/Paste Catholic Encyclopedia...
"The Hail Mary (sometimes called the "Angelical salutation", sometimes, from the first words in its Latin form, the "Ave Maria") is the most familiar of all the prayers used by the Universal Church in honour of our Blessed Lady.
It is commonly described as consisting of three parts. The first, "Hail (Mary) full of grace, the Lord is with thee, blessed art thou amongst women", embodies the words used by the Angel Gabriel in saluting the Blessed Virgin (Luke, I, 28). The second, "and blessed is the fruit of thy womb (Jesus)", is borrowed from the Divinely inspired greeting of St. Elizabeth (Luke 1:42), which attaches itself the more naturally to the first part, because the words "benedicta tu in mulieribus" (I, 28) or "inter mulieres" (I, 42) are common to both salutations. Finally, the petition "Holy Mary, Mother of God, pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death. Amen." is stated by the official "Catechism of the Council of Trent" to have been framed by the Church itself. "Most rightly", says the Catechism, "has the Holy Church of God added to this thanksgiving, petition also and the invocation of the most holy Mother of God, thereby implying that we should piously and suppliantly have recourse to her in order that by her intercession she may reconcile God with us sinners and obtain for us the blessing we need both for this present life and for the life which has no end."
