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From AgeOfKnowledge's post: But you should never quit seeking victory and not be ashamed to be part of Christian support groups if you are not supernaturally delivered from whatever fleshly issue you're struggling with. Whether quickly or slowly eventually we do become better people through God working in us if we are willing.
This statement rings true to me. I heard in a sermon recently that the original words used for repent and believe mean to do it on a continuous basis. Come to God every day in repentance and belief and like Reinitin mentioned God promises to continue to work in you until it is finished. Keep repenting and keep believing on a daily basis and God will keep forgiving you and freeing you from all the things in your life that lead you astray. I think this is the key.
This statement rings true to me. I heard in a sermon recently that the original words used for repent and believe mean to do it on a continuous basis. Come to God every day in repentance and belief and like Reinitin mentioned God promises to continue to work in you until it is finished. Keep repenting and keep believing on a daily basis and God will keep forgiving you and freeing you from all the things in your life that lead you astray. I think this is the key.
Hi again Brandon; Sorry for mis-interpreting your question 
from my studies, i would offer this; The whole world is a work in progress; I do beleive that we are in the final gerenation; When Christ walked the earth in the flesh, He gave 3 examples of healing physical blindness.
Some He healed instantly, some He healed in a 3 stage process (peter) others He healed in a 2 step process and then requested an act of faith from the person, that when the person performed that act of faith, they would receive the completeness of their healing.
From my understanding; these are physical examples of how spiritual blindness is healed now.
So NO, just because a person has a sin thats ongoing, and has his beleif (hope) in Christ, does not mean that he cannot be saved.
It would seem that it depends on the urgency of the need; and that we don't determine the need, But rather Christ does.
Hope this helps you, and is more along the lines of what you were looking for.
Love and Peace to ALL in CHRIST!!!Forever!
from my studies, i would offer this; The whole world is a work in progress; I do beleive that we are in the final gerenation; When Christ walked the earth in the flesh, He gave 3 examples of healing physical blindness.Some He healed instantly, some He healed in a 3 stage process (peter) others He healed in a 2 step process and then requested an act of faith from the person, that when the person performed that act of faith, they would receive the completeness of their healing.
From my understanding; these are physical examples of how spiritual blindness is healed now.
So NO, just because a person has a sin thats ongoing, and has his beleif (hope) in Christ, does not mean that he cannot be saved.
It would seem that it depends on the urgency of the need; and that we don't determine the need, But rather Christ does.
Hope this helps you, and is more along the lines of what you were looking for.
Love and Peace to ALL in CHRIST!!!Forever!
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Hi again Brandon; Sorry for mis-interpreting your question from my studies, i would offer this; The whole world is a work in progress; I do beleive that we are in the final gerenation; When Christ walked the earth in the flesh, He gave 3 examples of healing physical blindness.
Some He healed instantly, some He healed in a 3 stage process (peter) others He healed in a 2 step process and then requested an act of faith from the person, that when the person performed that act of faith, they would receive the completeness of their healing.
From my understanding; these are physical examples of how spiritual blindness is healed now.
So NO, just because a person has a sin thats ongoing, and has his beleif (hope) in Christ, does not mean that he cannot be saved.
It would seem that it depends on the urgency of the need; and that we don't determine the need, But rather Christ does.
Hope this helps you, and is more along the lines of what you were looking for.
Love and Peace to ALL in CHRIST!!!Forever!
from my studies, i would offer this; The whole world is a work in progress; I do beleive that we are in the final gerenation; When Christ walked the earth in the flesh, He gave 3 examples of healing physical blindness.Some He healed instantly, some He healed in a 3 stage process (peter) others He healed in a 2 step process and then requested an act of faith from the person, that when the person performed that act of faith, they would receive the completeness of their healing.
From my understanding; these are physical examples of how spiritual blindness is healed now.
So NO, just because a person has a sin thats ongoing, and has his beleif (hope) in Christ, does not mean that he cannot be saved.
It would seem that it depends on the urgency of the need; and that we don't determine the need, But rather Christ does.
Hope this helps you, and is more along the lines of what you were looking for.
Love and Peace to ALL in CHRIST!!!Forever!
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Greetings Brandon,
Assuming you interpreted all of the preachers correctly; I would say there are a few variables that one would have to consider. Firstly, is the respective individual a sinner or does the individual just commit sin due to a fallen nature? To be a sinner is someone who dedicates their life towards the pursuit and mastery of a lascivious lifestyle. To sin is a byproduct of a fallen nature, because even after we have received salvation, salvation does not expunge nor negate our capacity to transgress the commandments of the Most High. The former would provide strong evidence to conclude if true saving grace was provided to an individual, the latter would provide evidence to conclude the authenticity of salvation within that individual, but in no way can we guarantee with absolute certainty, the salvation of someone by their outward manifestations of righteousness and piety.
Assuming you interpreted all of the preachers correctly; I would say there are a few variables that one would have to consider. Firstly, is the respective individual a sinner or does the individual just commit sin due to a fallen nature? To be a sinner is someone who dedicates their life towards the pursuit and mastery of a lascivious lifestyle. To sin is a byproduct of a fallen nature, because even after we have received salvation, salvation does not expunge nor negate our capacity to transgress the commandments of the Most High. The former would provide strong evidence to conclude if true saving grace was provided to an individual, the latter would provide evidence to conclude the authenticity of salvation within that individual, but in no way can we guarantee with absolute certainty, the salvation of someone by their outward manifestations of righteousness and piety.
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Well, now that I think about it... I don't know if the preachers who claim this are referring to 'sinners' or someone who just commit sin. But, -I- specifically am referring to believers who sin, but do not wish to do it and have a growing hatred for it and seek and pray for change.
So, thanks for your input. I will consider more carefully who the preachers are referring to.
So, thanks for your input. I will consider more carefully who the preachers are referring to.
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Greetings Brandon,
In your specific situation- even though I don't know the specifics regarding the area, or severity of sin- I would say that "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." {1 Cor. 10:13}. Dealing, and struggling with sin is apart of every believer (regardless of what they may tell you). The important thing is to be honest with the Most High because we are commanded to be honest. One must ask himself, "is this a sin that I am truly seeking a remedy for", or "is this a sin that I enjoy too much to let go at the moment". The answer to that question will determine how the Most High will regard you.
In your specific situation- even though I don't know the specifics regarding the area, or severity of sin- I would say that "There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." {1 Cor. 10:13}. Dealing, and struggling with sin is apart of every believer (regardless of what they may tell you). The important thing is to be honest with the Most High because we are commanded to be honest. One must ask himself, "is this a sin that I am truly seeking a remedy for", or "is this a sin that I enjoy too much to let go at the moment". The answer to that question will determine how the Most High will regard you.
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Greetings Cookie39,
The verses are in Matthew 5:27-28, and also in Matthew 5:21-25. These verses restrict sin to, not only an outward action but to the manifestations of evil in the mind/heart. The law is Spiritual {Romans 7:14} meaning that the transgressions committed against it are not attributed to the physical but to the soul {Eze. 18:14}. I do not completely agree on all matters with John Calvin but I believe that what he said in 'Institutes of Christian Religion' is relevant to this topic, "One might not kill, steal, or commit adultery physically so they feel that they are righteous and justified, but with the mind and soul they breathe out slaughter, lust and the like."
The verses are in Matthew 5:27-28, and also in Matthew 5:21-25. These verses restrict sin to, not only an outward action but to the manifestations of evil in the mind/heart. The law is Spiritual {Romans 7:14} meaning that the transgressions committed against it are not attributed to the physical but to the soul {Eze. 18:14}. I do not completely agree on all matters with John Calvin but I believe that what he said in 'Institutes of Christian Religion' is relevant to this topic, "One might not kill, steal, or commit adultery physically so they feel that they are righteous and justified, but with the mind and soul they breathe out slaughter, lust and the like."
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1Wherefore seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us(Hebrews 12:1).
We have to lay aside the sin which does easily beset us,which means that when we come to God there might be a sin that we have trouble with that we keep doing,but God will not let us be tempted above what we can handle,and will give us a way out of that temptation.
We have to lay aside the sin which does easily beset us,which means that when we come to God there might be a sin that we have trouble with that we keep doing,but God will not let us be tempted above what we can handle,and will give us a way out of that temptation.
and about the uh first post, if you are craving something in your life weather it be nicotine, alcohol, cussing, some drug addiction or anyother ungodly sin it means your in bondage to your sin and God was sent to die for sin and corrects the ones He loves so you should if you were truely saved see clearance but it doesnt mean that they will go to hell because God lists the sins of sinners that are unforgivable there is only one and that is to blaspheme the Holy Spirit or say that His unclean in some manner but it also states that murderers, adulterers, sexually immoral, the unbelievers, there are more but i cant find the scripture but anyways if those things are in his practice and he does them time and time yet again he shall by no means enter the kingdom of heaven.....For the love of Christ constraineth us; because we thus judge, that if one died for all, then were all dead: And that He died for all, that they which live should not henceforth live unto themselves, but unto Him which died for them, and rose again. wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh,yet now henceforth know we Him no more. Therefore if any man be in Christ , he is a new creature: old things are passed away ; behold all things are become new. so uhm that was out of 2 cor 5:14-17 but it goes on and there are many parts in the bible speaking about turning away from all sins of some sort and to be holy as He is holy so how would a man be righteous like Christ if he were in bondage to sin?
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repentanced..must be a subjest of importance to many,take a look at Acts 5:31,true repentance is as much a gift from God,as is forgiveness.We can no more
truly rerpent without the Holy Spirit,then we can be forgiven without the Spirit. Blessings on all who seek the simplicity of God's plan for saving man.
truly rerpent without the Holy Spirit,then we can be forgiven without the Spirit. Blessings on all who seek the simplicity of God's plan for saving man.