Is Secular Literature Evil?

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Is Secular Literature Bad?

  • Yes

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Secular Literature Aids Us In Our Understanding Of God's Word

    Votes: 2 22.2%
  • Secular Literature Is A Perversion To God's Word and All His Word Stands For

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Secular Literature Is More Neutral; Like Anything Else, It Can Be Used For Good Or Bad Purposes

    Votes: 5 55.6%

  • Total voters
    9
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NiceneCreed

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I recently submitted a short assignment that reflects my thoughts and observations regarding secular literature, and whether or not I am supportive of such literature. I will post what I wrote below:

It is truly amazing – the wealth of knowledge one is able toattain through secular literature. Whilethere are some early church fathers who were allegedly adverse to the idea ofpursuing knowledge through the means of studying secular literature, as well assome members of my own church who feel similarly, I cannot help but think howhaving such a position will ultimately limit one’s understanding of theBible. To the credit of the early churchfathers, and those who are like-minded with regards to secular literature,there is a plethora of literature which is perverse in nature, and, as such, isin direct opposition to God and His Word. Is it any wonder there are those who find secular literature to be athreat to what it is the church stands for? That being said, there is also a wealth of knowledge contained withinsecular literature that can be fruitful in the quest to expand our knowledge ofGod and His Word. There is a vast amountof literature out there which directly or indirectly relates to the geography,historical-cultural context, as well as various other aspects surroundingevents and things contained within the Bible. Indeed, there is so much to be learned about the Bible; however, much ofwhat we know about events, or, at the very least, cultural context as itpertains to the Bible, is found only in outside sources. Therefore, it seems the benefits of knowledgeone can derive from secular literature far outweigh whatever the perceivedcosts, and, in fact, is supportive of our understanding of God’s Word. It is for this reason I openly welcome thepursuit of learning even through secular literature.


As I stated, it was a really short assignment, so I am sure there is a possibility I could have gone into deeper thought about the topic, but I think you get the general premise. I was just interested in hearing what other people thought of secular literature, and whether or not it is something good to learn from. I look forward to a fruitful discussion.:)

P.S. My assignment has not been graded yet, so if anyone decides to borrow anything I have said and use it in another site/ social media forum (I don't see why anyone would; the work's not that great! But all the same . . .), please wait until I give the o.k., or, at the very least, message me so I can give you my information, that way I am credited for the work. Like I said, I know the work's not that great, and the likelihood of someone using this lame work is almost nil, but you never know these days. If anyone finds this side note to be funny, feel free to laugh at my expense.;)




Grace and Peace!
 
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NiceneCreed

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I thought I would point it out before someone else mentions it, but every time I copy and paste something into the forums, there seems to be a formatting error. Usually, there is a spacing issue; it will conjoin words. Is there a way to avoid this? What is it I am doing wrong?


P.S. I am going to repost the original message, and do my best to correct any and all spacing errors.
 

Blain

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What is secular literature?
 

Blain

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I thought I would point it out before someone else mentions it, but every time I copy and paste something into the forums, there seems to be a formatting error. Usually, there is a spacing issue; it will conjoin words. Is there a way to avoid this? What is it I am doing wrong?


P.S. I am going to repost the original message, and do my best to correct any and all spacing errors.
Sometimes this place has bugs Robo op can help you with it
 
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nathan3

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#5
The poll doesn't let me say that,

Some things like commentaries can be a problem, like books that attempt to capitalize on Christianity, and make a mockery of it , turning serious issues, and twisting it, Like the Da Vinci Code, the Left Behind series , to Inferno (Dante) . Christians actually have the nerve to quote these writings as Biblical fact...

I have nothing against secular ( factual ) history. Study aids, like dictionary's . Concordances are good .

But when you start to have people consider mans writings as more fact, then God's written words, then you have a problem.
 
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NiceneCreed

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I recently submitted a short assignment that reflects my thoughts and observations regarding secular literature, and whether or not I am supportive of such literature. I will post what I wrote below:

It is truly amazing – the wealth of knowledge one is able to attain through secular literature. While there are some early church fathers who were allegedly adverse to the idea of pursuing knowledge through the means of studying secular literature, as well as some members of my own church who feel similarly, I cannot help but think how having such a position will ultimately limit one’s understanding of the Bible. To the credit of the early church fathers, and those who are like-minded with regards to secular literature, there is a plethora of literature which is perverse in nature, and, as such, is in direct opposition to God and His Word. Is it any wonder there are those who find secular literature to be a threat to what it is the church stands for? That being said, there is also a wealth of knowledge contained within secular literature that can be fruitful in the quest to expand our knowledge of God and His Word. There is a vast amount of literature out there which directly or indirectly relates to the geography, historical-cultural context, as well as various other aspects surrounding events and things contained within the Bible. Indeed, there is so much to be learned about the Bible; however, much of what we know about events, or, at the very least, cultural context as it pertains to the Bible, is found only in outside sources. Therefore, it seems the benefits of knowledge one can derive from secular literature far outweigh whatever the perceived costs, and, in fact, is supportive of our understanding of God’s Word. It is for this reason I openly welcome the pursuit of learning even through secular literature.


As I stated, it was a really short assignment, so I am sure there is a possibility I could have gone into deeper thought about the topic, but I think you get the general premise. I was just interested in hearing what other people thought of secular literature, and whether or not it is something good to learn from. I look forward to a fruitful discussion.:)

P.S. My assignment has not been graded yet, so if anyone decides to borrow anything I have said and use it in another site/ social media forum (I don't see why anyone would; the work's not that great! But all the same . . .), please wait until I give the o.k., or, at the very least, message me so I can give you my information, that way I am credited for the work. Like I said, I know the work's not that great, and the likelihood of someone using this lame work is almost nil, but you never know these days. If anyone finds this side note to be funny, feel free to laugh at my expense.;)
 
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NiceneCreed

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The poll doesn't let me say that,

Some things like commentaries can be a problem, like books that attempt to capitalize on Christianity, and make a mockery of it , turning serious issues, and twisting it, Like the Da Vinci Code, the Left Behind series , to Inferno (Dante) . Christians actually have the nerve to quote these writings as Biblical fact...

I have nothing against secular ( factual ) history. Study aids, like dictionary's . Concordances are good .

But when you start to have people consider mans writings as more fact, then God's written words, then you have a problem.

Secular literature includes anything that is non-biblical, essentially. Therefore, I suppose commentaries or dictionaries may be viewed as secular. However, I was referring to secular sources which may provide information about the cultural settings surrounding biblical society and/or provides geographical information about biblical locations (Not necessarily commentaries in either case), but, is nonetheless, secular.
 
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nathan3

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Secular literature includes anything that is non-biblical, essentially. Therefore, I suppose commentaries or dictionaries may be viewed as secular. However, I was referring to secular sources which may provide information about the cultural settings surrounding biblical society and/or provides geographical information about biblical locations (Not necessarily commentaries in either case), but, is nonetheless, secular.
yeah then I'm for that and nothing wrong there as far as i can see now.
 
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Then again it depends on what the definition is.
I think the Catholic church considered Luther's writings secular.
- (not to be a wiseacre):)
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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I'm not sure how this book I'm reading titled 'Parts of a Butterfly' from the Cambridge Butterfly Conservatory could be classified as "evil" in the morally religious sense from a Christian worldview perspective. In fact, since it is merely an inquiry into God's creation, the epistemology of which is classified under general revelation, it can certainly qualify as morally good and not evil from a Christian worldview perspective.

Now an occultist book on Wiccan spells would be evil but that is not really secular. How about a pornography magazine. That's evil.

So obviously, secular literature varies widely between the polar opposites of "good" and "evil" and it's important to qualify specific secular literature to assess where it belongs in this sense before making a judgment.
 
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NiceneCreed

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Then again it depends on what the definition is.
I think the Catholic church considered Luther's writings secular.
- (not to be a wiseacre):)
I suppose I have no choice but to agree with you. The problem with "perspective" is that it is often times subjective.
 
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NiceneCreed

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I'm not sure how this book I'm reading titled 'Parts of a Butterfly' from the Cambridge Butterfly Conservatory could be classified as "evil" in the morally religious sense from a Christian worldview perspective. In fact, since it is merely an inquiry into God's creation, the epistemology of which is classified under general revelation, it can certainly qualify as morally good and not evil from a Christian worldview perspective.

Now an occultist book on Wiccan spells would be evil but that is not really secular. How about a pornography magazine. That's evil.

So obviously, secular literature varies widely between the polar opposites of "good" and "evil" and it's important to qualify specific secular literature to assess where it belongs in this sense before making a judgment.

I deliberately generalized what it is I meant by secular, as I am aware there is a wide-array of secular literature. I suppose what I should have asked but didn't -- Should we disregard all secular literature, regardless of there being some good secular literature out there?
 
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I find many problems with secular literature. Usually, they give the lives of people who live without any awareness that what they do affects the spiritual world, that is such a blind way of living. Some literature flaunts the way God tells us not to live, and I find those books simply disgusting.

When I have studied how our mind works and develops, I am told that when we input thoughts when we are very focused as we often are when reading, the effect on the mind is profound. You wouldn't be able to have a mind both centered on God as leading you in all of life and spend hours and hours in secular reading of some of our fiction unless you were always aware that God is acting in the lives they are talking about, even when the characters are not aware of it.

That is not to say that all secular reading in not beneficial. Some of the history given is even essential to our understanding of God, for history is showing God operating in our world. Even when the author does not say so, it usually shows God operating in lives and the world.

I have read most of Will Durant's History of Civilization. Will started these books as someone who did not believe in God. At the end of his life he believed that no one who read his histories could doubt that God was working in our world.
 
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nathan3

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I think the term Evil is too strong a word. It's probably distracting from what what you really indented people to talk about.
 
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NiceneCreed

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#16
I find many problems with secular literature. Usually, they give the lives of people who live without any awareness that what they do affects the spiritual world, that is such a blind way of living. Some literature flaunts the way God tells us not to live, and I find those books simply disgusting.

When I have studied how our mind works and develops, I am told that when we input thoughts when we are very focused as we often are when reading, the effect on the mind is profound. You wouldn't be able to have a mind both centered on God as leading you in all of life and spend hours and hours in secular reading of some of our fiction unless you were always aware that God is acting in the lives they are talking about, even when the characters are not aware of it.

That is not to say that all secular reading in not beneficial. Some of the history given is even essential to our understanding of God, for history is showing God operating in our world. Even when the author does not say so, it usually shows God operating in lives and the world.

I have read most of Will Durant's History of Civilization. Will started these books as someone who did not believe in God. At the end of his life he believed that no one who read his histories could doubt that God was working in our world.
Thank you for the enlightening and thoughtful response.:)
 
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NiceneCreed

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I think the term Evil is too strong a word. It's probably distracting from what what you really indented people to talk about.
Maybe. Maybe not.

Would you consider Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion to be evil? I most certainly would.
 
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nathan3

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Maybe. Maybe not.

Would you consider Richard Dawkins' The God Delusion to be evil? I most certainly would.
Im not sure what that book is about, is that a commentary ? The TITLE does not sit well with me, and seems like a waste of time.

Because you said

Secular literature includes anything that is non-biblical, essentially.Therefore, I suppose commentaries or dictionaries may be viewed as secular. However , I was referring to secular sources which may provide information about the cultural settings surrounding biblical society and/or provides geographical information about biblical locations (Not necessarily commentaries in either case), but, is nonetheless, secular.


So if you intended to talk more about the men's Commentaries , that attack God, then i can see the evil word fits i guess.


But if Dawkins is about a commentary using secular history to attack God, I'm not sure.


I have no intention of reading that book.
 
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