Is the Devil bound right now...?

[ukok102nak]

You willfully ignore the Greek.

‘Katargēsē’ is in the aorist - i.e. completed action...i.e. the Devil has already been bound...its a done deal!

:smoke: actually your the one who is willingful
to insert your own thoughts from the scriptures and
NOT FOLLOWING the true written scriptures
without alterartions nor discripancy regarding this matter my brother

remember to post the original translation first
before anything else my brother

:now: please tell us what the greeks says about this verse
:read:
1 John: 3. 8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

: : your only basing your own arguments from your own thinking my brother
please take your time to read the holy scripture as a whole and not by
one on one context only

God bless us all always


:ty:

 

[Bowman]

:smoke: actually your the one who is willingful
to insert your own thoughts from the scriptures and
NOT FOLLOWING the true written scriptures
without alterartions nor discripancy regarding this matter my brother

remember to post the original translation first
before anything else my brother

Perhaps you meant to say original language, yes...?

I have already done this numerous times throughout this thread....however, you and others, get all glassy-eyed and ignore it...

:now: please tell us what the greeks says about this verse
:read:
1 John: 3. 8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.

You enacted the same failure mode again!

Did you not learn from your previous example?!

'Lysē' is in the aorist....i.e. completed action...i.e. the devil has already been 'destroyed'...

 

[ukok102nak]

Perhaps you meant to say original language, yes...?

I have already done this numerous times throughout this thread....however, you and others, get all glassy-eyed and ignore it...






You enacted the same failure mode again!

Did you not learn from your previous example?!

'Lysē' is in the aorist....i.e. completed action...i.e. the devil has already been 'destroyed'...

:rofl: and your belief in this argument somehow failed you many times
that even now you tell to us that we are enhansing the holy scriptures

and your right my brother for the holy scriptures enhancing itsefl
but not us because as you've read
before and after there is nothing you can say that we altered the
original written scripture even it is translated from english language . . ...

:smoke: the truth here is your in such a mode that you even dictates the
written scriptures to be altered by your own thoughts
where in the simplist form it is written
:read:
1 John: 3. 8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
~:› AND EVEN IF YOURE LOOKING FROM THOSE MIRROR GLASS
YOY CANNOT EVEN GET THE TRUTH BEHIND THIS VERSE
FOR YOU NOT ONLY IGNORED IT BUT ALSO DENY IT
BUT YOU ALSO DENY IT MY BROTHER

: : and how come
you only telling to all that the devil in already bound right now
where there so many devils written in the scripture
:read:
Leviticus: 17. 7. And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

Deuteronomy: 32. 17. They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Psalm: 106. 37. Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

Luke: 8. 30. And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.

James: 2. 19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

2 Corinthians: 2. 11. Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
~:» AND FROM THE START IT IS WRITTEN AND
LOOK HOW SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS
WHEN YOU AND YOUR THOUGHTS TELLS TO EACH AND
EVERYONE HERE
THAT THE DEVIL IS BOUND RIGHT NOW?

`∞` as we've said before
:read: the whole written scriptures first my brother

God bless us all always


:ty:

 

[Bowman]

:rofl: and your belief in this argument somehow failed you many times
that even now you tell to us that we are enhansing the holy scriptures

and your right my brother for the holy scriptures enhancing itsefl
but not us because as you've read
before and after there is nothing you can say that we altered the
original written scripture even it is translated from english language . . ...

You run from the original languages.

:smoke: the truth here is your in such a mode that you even dictates the
written scriptures to be altered by your own thoughts
where in the simplist form it is written
:read:
1 John: 3. 8. He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
~:› AND EVEN IF YOURE LOOKING FROM THOSE MIRROR GLASS
YOY CANNOT EVEN GET THE TRUTH BEHIND THIS VERSE
FOR YOU NOT ONLY IGNORED IT BUT ALSO DENY IT
BUT YOU ALSO DENY IT MY BROTHER

Again...

The Greek is in the aorist...which means completed action.

The devil has already been rendered impotent, at The Cross.

: : and how come
you only telling to all that the devil in already bound right now
where there so many devils written in the scripture
:read:
Leviticus: 17. 7. And they shall no more offer their sacrifices unto devils, after whom they have gone a whoring. This shall be a statute for ever unto them throughout their generations.

Deuteronomy: 32. 17. They sacrificed unto devils, not to God; to gods whom they knew not, to new gods that came newly up, whom your fathers feared not.

Psalm: 106. 37. Yea, they sacrificed their sons and their daughters unto devils,

Luke: 8. 30. And Jesus asked him, saying, What is thy name? And he said, Legion: because many devils were entered into him.

James: 2. 19. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.

2 Corinthians: 2. 11. Lest Satan should get an advantage of us: for we are not ignorant of his devices.
~:» AND FROM THE START IT IS WRITTEN AND
LOOK HOW SAULO ESTE PABLO OR PAUL SAY SOMETHING LIKE THIS
WHEN YOU AND YOUR THOUGHTS TELLS TO EACH AND
EVERYONE HERE
THAT THE DEVIL IS BOUND RIGHT NOW?

`∞` as we've said before
:read: the whole written scriptures first my brother

God bless us all always


:ty:

These passages refer to demons.

Demons are still roaming free.

Satan is NOT roaming free.

Satan was bound at The Cross.






Deal.

With.

It.

 

[popeye]

No,he is roaming. Causing death,destruction,sickness.

 

[passing_through]

You run from the original languages.







Again...

The Greek is in the aorist...which means completed action.

The devil has already been rendered impotent, at The Cross.






These passages refer to demons.

Demons are still roaming free.

Satan is NOT roaming free.

Satan was bound at The Cross.






Deal.

With.

It.

What happened at the cross:
*The power death held over every man destroyed.
*The ordinates that were against us taken out of the way.
What happened to Satan - losed two power tools; goes on best he can.

 

[Bowman]

No,he is roaming. Causing death,destruction,sickness.

According to scripture, the last person that Satan was allowed to enter into, was Judas.

After The Cross, there are ZERO scriptural occurrences of Satan entering into anyone.

This is because Satan is bound!


You people keep on giving Satan power which he currently does NOT have...and, at the very same time, you diminish Jesus' power over him.

Scriptural ignorants...

 

[james57]

Hmmmmm

And that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who has taken them captive to do his will
2tim2:26

 

[james57]

Hand this man over to satan so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the lord 1cor5:5

 

[passing_through]

Hmmmmm

And that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who has taken them captive to do his will
2tim2:26

Nailed it.

 

[passing_through]

Hand this man over to satan so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the lord 1cor5:5

...deliver him to Satan. Right on.

 

[james57]

...deliver him to Satan. Right on.

Do you think he might tell us it is a mistranslation lol, the Greek words it completely differently?????

 

[james57]

Your enemy the devil prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour 1peter 5:8

 

[Ahwatukee]

Hmmmmm

And that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who has taken them captive to do his will
2tim2:26

Hi James,

These are all good contending verses showing that Satan is not bound, unfortunately, the Amil's have and will circumvent and distort all scripture showing that Satan was bound at the crucifixion, but passively. They ignore that the scripture is clear in that Satan is bound after the physical, visual return of Christ to the earth as demonstrated in chapter 19:11-21, which hasn't happened yet and that it is in the real location of the Abyss which is under the earth that Satan is literally bound, as well as the ignoring of the thousand years as being literal. Unfortunately, they will provide a distorted answer for everything that you can provide as proof.

You have to remember that with Amillennialism, you are dealing with a teaching that has a prepackaged interpretation for most of the Biblical topics, especially end-time events. So when that topic comes up, they just apply that prepackaged answer and ignore the details of the context and anything that you will produce as a contention against it. It's a form of brainwashing.

"We know that we are children of God, and that the whole world is under the control of the evil one." (1 John 5:19)

 

[Bowman]

Hmmmmm

And that they will come to their senses and escape from the trap of the devil who has taken them captive to do his will
2tim2:26

The 'Devil's snare' is what has already occurred to Satan at The Cross...i.e. he was judged at that point, according to scripture.

If you look at the five Greek locations of this word (and its inflections), you can easily see that this has everything to do will falling into the trap of being Judged, of which, Satan has already been.

This passage is a predicament of Judgment....NOT a declaration of Satan's authority.

 

[james57]

The 'Devil's snare' is what has already occurred to Satan at The Cross...i.e. he was judged at that point, according to scripture.

If you look at the five Greek locations of this word (and its inflections), you can easily see that this has everything to do will falling into the trap of being Judged, of which, Satan has already been.

This passage is a predicament of Judgment....NOT a declaration of Satan's authority.

I refer you to posts 1852&1854

 

[Bowman]

Hand this man over to satan so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the lord 1cor5:5

So...he must be 'handed-over' why...?

Because Satan is bound and unable to do it directly.


Time to start using your head...

 

[james57]

So...he must be 'handed-over' why...?

Because Satan is bound and unable to do it directly.


Time to start using your head...

If I used my head to understand the spiritual I am sure I would come up with many weird and strange doctrines, such as others do who rely on the natural mind( head) to learn of the spiritual

 

[Bowman]

Do you think he might tell us it is a mistranslation lol, the Greek words it completely differently?????

For you...looking to the Greek, first, would have saved you from looking abtuse.....yes?

 

[james57]

For you...looking to the Greek, first, would have saved you from looking abtuse.....yes?

Nothing of importance to read here, time to move on to another thread