Is the great biblical flood real or not?
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You are talking over my head or yours......it is jsut too intellectual for my understandign. God bless you. I will continue to believe the written code becomes Jesus Christ speaking when given life by His Hoy Spirit. Call me too ignorant to learn, I do not mind, I prefer faith in what He teaches me.
I have probably read 20 versions in my lifetime, not including the reading in French, Spanish ad Hebrew with some in other anguages.
Now it is you looking to contend. Don't you know the Holy Spirit brings any version of God's Word to life b e it God's will? For that matter a person may find His Word in any writig, again, be it HIs will. Have fiath, and do not contend withthose who ae content with their own.
Now it is you looking to contend. Don't you know the Holy Spirit brings any version of God's Word to life b e it God's will? For that matter a person may find His Word in any writig, again, be it HIs will. Have fiath, and do not contend withthose who ae content with their own.
The following was written prior to the Bible being compiled. What do you make of it?But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things. The anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
(1Jn 2:20,27)
I was weaned on the KJV and I love it. But it is translated into old English. Word meanings change. Here is the Hebrew word as define from the BDB Lexicon.
- Original: מלא מלא
- Transliteration: Male'
- Phonetic: maw-lay'
- Definition:
1. to fill, be full
a. (Qal)
1. to be full 1a
b. fulness, abundance (participle) 1a
c. to be full, be accomplished, be ended
1. to consecrate, fill the hand
d. (Niphal)
1. to be filled, be armed, be satisfied
2. to be accomplished, be ended
e. (Piel)
1. to fill
2. to satisfy
3. to fulfil, accomplish, complete
4. to confirm
f. (Pual) to be filled
g. (Hithpael) to mass themselves against
- Origin: a primitive root
- TWOT entry: 1195
- Part(s) of speech: Verb
As we can see the word basically means fill. Below Is an excerpt from a web site that has took the time to compile information on the Old English understanding of the word replenish. Here is a LINK so you can see it yourself.
1. An examination of the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) shows that the word was used to mean ‘fill’ from the thirteenth to the seventeenth centuries. In no case quoted in these five centuries does it unambiguously mean ‘re-fill’. The OED defines ‘replenish’ as having 10 meanings throughout its history:
- Original: מלא מלא
- Transliteration: Male'
- Phonetic: maw-lay'
- Definition:
1. to fill, be full
a. (Qal)
1. to be full 1a
b. fulness, abundance (participle) 1a
c. to be full, be accomplished, be ended
1. to consecrate, fill the hand
d. (Niphal)
1. to be filled, be armed, be satisfied
2. to be accomplished, be ended
e. (Piel)
1. to fill
2. to satisfy
3. to fulfil, accomplish, complete
4. to confirm
f. (Pual) to be filled
g. (Hithpael) to mass themselves against
- Origin: a primitive root
- TWOT entry: 1195
- Part(s) of speech: Verb
As we can see the word basically means fill. Below Is an excerpt from a web site that has took the time to compile information on the Old English understanding of the word replenish. Here is a LINK so you can see it yourself.
1. An examination of the Oxford English Dictionary (OED) shows that the word was used to mean ‘fill’ from the thirteenth to the seventeenth centuries. In no case quoted in these five centuries does it unambiguously mean ‘re-fill’. The OED defines ‘replenish’ as having 10 meanings throughout its history:
- Replenished (adjective):
- fully stocked; provided, supplied;
- filled, pervaded;
- physically or materially filled;
- full, made full.
- To replenish:
- make full, fill, stock with, as in: ‘This man made the Newe Forest, and replenyshed it with wylde bestes’ (AD1494);
- inhabit, settle, occupy the whole of;
- fill with food, satiate;
- fill (space) with; fill (heart) with (a feeling);
- fill up again; fill up (a vacant office) (AD1632);
- become full, attain to fullness.
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I agree, it seems many jump to the wrong conclusion over that verse and view it as a formula like this:
With the Lord a day IS a thousand years, and a thousand years IS a day.
It isn't a formula with which to measure the actual length of God's days.
It reads:
With the Lord a day IS LIKE a thousand years, and a thousand years ARE LIKE a day.
LIKE a thousand Not IS a thousand.
With the Lord a day IS a thousand years, and a thousand years IS a day.
It isn't a formula with which to measure the actual length of God's days.
It reads:
With the Lord a day IS LIKE a thousand years, and a thousand years ARE LIKE a day.
LIKE a thousand Not IS a thousand.
You seem to be on a mission to disprove the Bible by constantly banging on about there being several English translations.
People are aware there are there are many translations. We use them and find it useful to compare one to the other in study.
I don't see a problem. I have faith that God can preserve his word.
People are aware there are there are many translations. We use them and find it useful to compare one to the other in study.
I don't see a problem. I have faith that God can preserve his word.
The words you have quoted are a reminder to me of the knowledge and certainty that entered into me when the Holy Spirit first came into me, to my heart..
It gave me knowledge that Elohanu is everything and all. He told me Jesus Christ, Yeshua, had been abused by dnominational doctrines which all differ from the Word.
I believe this experience is the same for all who believe Jesus Christ....
I was indignant for Jesus Christ, Yeshua, not that He needs the defense of His children, yet I was, and am to this day.
Finally the message specific that came into me iw simple, though not in words, understood, "Everything is going to be fine."
I walked about three feet above the ground for sometime after this experience, and even since it overwhelms me in a most living and positive manner.
Forgive my wordiness.
It gave me knowledge that Elohanu is everything and all. He told me Jesus Christ, Yeshua, had been abused by dnominational doctrines which all differ from the Word.
I believe this experience is the same for all who believe Jesus Christ....
I was indignant for Jesus Christ, Yeshua, not that He needs the defense of His children, yet I was, and am to this day.
Finally the message specific that came into me iw simple, though not in words, understood, "Everything is going to be fine."
I walked about three feet above the ground for sometime after this experience, and even since it overwhelms me in a most living and positive manner.
Forgive my wordiness.
Scriptures interprets Scriptures.
Gen 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
Gen 1:20 And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
So then according to Scriptures the Firmament is our Atmosphere.
So the last days generation who came up with that version is the one you choose to believe is the correct translation? But the version that has existed for over 400 years is no longer a correct version, which version by the way satan tried to destroy but God protected. This God protected version YOU THINK is no longer correct. And why, because you choose to believe one of hundreds of versions the last day generation comes up with. Strange, the version God protected and had His children believe for over 400 years is not a correct translation. Really? Wow. You see God would not, nor yet allowing, satan to get rid of the KJV, so what does satan do if he can't get rid of it? He has people come up with hundreds of other watered down versions to take people away from the version that God has protected and still is protecting. And the last days generation swallow it whole.
Children can understand the Truths of God before the learned will ever grasp it. All that is written above is from learned men who have taken the simple plain Word of God and dissected it to fit into their own doctrines that they hold on to. i can change verses using this method also that makes homosexual marriages OK. Woe to those who take part in the last days generation method of interpreting the Word of God, They read a verse that they do not agree with is when they will take that verse to the Hebrew or Greek, in an attempt to change the simplicity in what the verse says to fit into what they believe the verse should say, thereby creating a false doctrine that they teach to others as well. They do not know, nor understand that interpretation DO NOT, nor ever will, belong to men. Interpretation belong to God. So as long as men try to interpret the Word of God, they will go to Hebrew / Greek / Aramaic / Latin / Lost Books and any number of other methods, to try to interpret the Word of God via the intellect of men.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
lol. believe 3,000,000 humans over God's Word. wow.
God reveals His secrets to His servants. If than a person reveals what God has told Him/her to others, that is TRUTH. But if man reveals to others what they have come up with via their own interpretations, their own studies, their own intellect. Always question what they are saying as TRUTH.
For example, scholars and learned people can all come up with intelligent assumption what the locusts are in Revelations, using their advanced education, their superior intellect, their countless hours of Hebrew and Greek application, their cross referencing this with that, and then they come up with an assumption what the locusts are.
And God reveals this secret to His servant. Who do you believe? Well this generation doesn't beleive God speaks to people anymore, so guess who this generation will believe, they will believe the men with, what did you call them?, Oh yeah excellent education. Lol as if men could actually interpret the Word of God.
Interpretations belong to God not to men. PERIOD!!! Any person who tries to interpret the Word of God via their own intellect, their own excellent education will be and usually are under the sway of satan. Why? because they are trying to interpret the Word of God as if they actually could do such a thing. Interpretation belong to God not to men.
And how does God bless us with information? Are you not saying by excellent education? Are you not saying via our own intellect, our own studies?
Amo_3:7 Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets.
So God reveals to whom God will reveal. So then anyone who tries to get those secrets some other way (ie, their own studies, Hebrew, Greek, their own intellect, their own minds, etc... ) will be swayed by satan to believe a false doctrine.
i have studied Hebrew and Greek. i have devoted to study living in a monastery, i have read the entire Bible over 80 times in my life. All of it dung compared to what God has told me concerning His Word, and what is to come.
What i teach is what God has told me, i rarely if ever teach anything at all that i have learned via my own studies of Scriptures. But what i have done quite a bit though, is remember Scriptures that confirms all that He told me in conversation. For example God told me that He is coming with the New City Jerusalem, to take up the Church during the middle of the Tribulation Period. Now when i read the Bible, i see all the verses that confirm that what He told me is actually TRUE. NOT that i used my intellect, but only believing what He told me, and seeing the verses that confirms it.
This generation believe so many false doctrines it is mind blowing, and all because of what? Men's interpretations.
Interpretations belong to God, woe to those who try to interpret the Word of God, as if they actually had the authority to do so. i use to be one of those who tried to interpret the Word of God to. Until God told me Interpretations do not belong to men, but He will reveal to whom He will reveal.
Anyone who tries to reveal a certain thing using the Hebrew/Greek most certainly has not been revealed to by God. If God told them a certain thing, they would not be saying "If you take this word or that word to the Hebrew it means _______" This interpretation is most certainly from a man's perspective and NOT something that God has revealed to them.
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave
And this is a comment from a person who is full of Love One for another?
Sounds to me like you are one of those learned people, who believe things they can see, touch, taste, feel, and hear. And believes in PROOF, But lacks Faith.
You say above that you do not believe in interpretation of the Bible by men, if this were True, then you would not believe your own self. For you reveal an interpretation then go about to reveal all the Hebrew and Greek that supports your interpretation. How is that not believing in an interpretation of the Bible by men?
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††† In His Holy and Precious Name, Jesus Christ †††
DiscipleDave