Is there such a thing as an atheist?

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mustaphadrink

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Thats an opinion and not an explanation of the Big Bang Theory. Same applies to you Kerry. Have you read any of the journals pubished which detail the big bang theory.
I understand your humour Kerry so don't worry if lack of deep thought has missed the point entirely.
 

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There might be, or there might not be life on Mars, but don't rule it out until the appropriate investigations have been made. First, the Bible doesn't mention that Mars even exists, second there is no mention that life was created on other worlds, so theologically what would the discovery of bacterial life on Mars mean? From the standpoint of biology it would be a very interesting discovery. The big questions would centre around its DNA. Identical DNA to that of earth would raise significant questions, but so would DNA that was unique.
You seem to spend all your life trying to work out what if.....

I enjoy life to the full as I let God tell me what I need to know. I don't spend time wracking my brain working out WHAT IF....because at the end of the day it gets you nowhere except pride and prejudice.
 

mustaphadrink

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Nope, my dispute was that you said God was quick to judge those who break the commandments, if thats true, no one would be left, since we all break commandments.
That is true Breno, but regardless of that fact, the atheist in general is not happy unless they are criticising Christians and trying to pull down all that they have build and stand for just to satisfy a damaged ego. No wonder they only comprise 2.1% of the population. Who would want to be a follower of the religion of cynical nothing?
 

mustaphadrink

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But I fail to see what is rational about talking animals, magic trees, fire breathing underwater monsters, flaming swords guarding the gates of paradise etc. How does one even begin to have an intelligent discussion about all that?
Of course you fail to see because satan has blinded your eyes. How many times do you have to be told before it sinks in? Until you can see, you and intelligent discussion are an oxymoron.
 

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Sir, I do not believe that any human eloquence of either speech or knowledge is what convinces a sinner to be saved. It's by God's grace who will work within the person to see. I can speak like Peter at Pentecost, but without God's grace, it will fall on deaf ears indeed!
So true spokenpassage. And the fact that you have to say it shows how blind atheists are to the truth. They think that being clever and all knowing is going to be their saviour and although we have told them so many times that faith as a little child is all that is needed they still insist on keeping pontificating about everything they know and not realising they haven't a clue what they need to know. All they know is what helps them massage a damaged ego.
 

mustaphadrink

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Of course, there is another option...None of it actually happened?
And there is another option......satan has blinded your eyes so you cannot see the obvious even, because you are too cynical about anything you don't understand.
 
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So true spokenpassage. And the fact that you have to say it shows how blind atheists are to the truth. They think that being clever and all knowing is going to be their saviour and although we have told them so many times that faith as a little child is all that is needed they still insist on keeping pontificating about everything they know and not realising they haven't a clue what they need to know. All they know is what helps them massage a damaged ego.
That maybe so but all the adjective abuse does is turn what can be a thoughtful dialogue into a geraldo/oreilly screaming match. You might as well turn the caps on man.
 

mustaphadrink

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Amen! if Jesus was still in the tomb it would have been insanely easy for the Pharisees and religious leaders of Israel to stop Christianity dead in its tracks by showing people Jesus' body. But like you said we have no writings or any evidence whatsoever of this happening.
So true JDA, so true and that has been said many times and no one has provided any evidence that they did this and that it is inescapable that Jesus lived and died as the bible said but then whatever the truth is, an atheist blinded by satan who has developed a cynical mind can't see what is in front of his nose.
 
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I'm not saying the entire bible is fabricated but I believe the supernatural elements are most certainly fabricated.
Right. So if Jesus didnt rise from the dead, why didnt the religious leaders parade around his body when those pesky Christians were "stealing good Jews away from Judaism?"

the fact that there is no written evidence whatsoever of the Pharisees doing this gives credence to the claim that Christ did rise from the dead.
 
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You seem to spend all your life trying to work out what if.....

I enjoy life to the full as I let God tell me what I need to know. I don't spend time wracking my brain working out WHAT IF....because at the end of the day it gets you nowhere except pride and prejudice.
I guess some people are happy not knowing what's out there, but many of us have an insatiable curiosity. We will keep asking the questions and looking for the answers.
 
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And if Christ has not been raised, our preaching is useless and so is your faith. 1 Corinthians 15:1

This is truly a startling passage of scripture. Almost as if Paul dared someone to prove otherwise.
 

mustaphadrink

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You can take it on faith, and you do, but the biblical account offers no understanding of the universe – microscopic or macroscopic. All discoveries are derived from science.
You don't need an understanding of the universe to be born again as the scripture is quite clear "except you become as a little child you cannot see the kingdom of God" and that is where your problem lies. You are too proud to become as a little child because you faith is in what you supposedly know. Unfortunately what you know or don't know has never been a condition of salvation that is why the most uneducated person on earth is not barred from the kingdom of God.

In fact, your knowledge is keeping you outside God's kingdom because you obviously believe that in knowing you have this idea that it puts you on top of the pile and makes you superior to everyone else, judging by the remarks made by atheists that if you are not an atheist you are ignorant and uneducated. In fact, what you know would probably fit on the nail of God's little finger metaphorically.

Sooooooooooo, we praise God that our God is the God of the foolish (foolish enough to put their trust in Him) not the God of those who think they area cut above the rest. As it says in scripture......

1 Corinthians 1:25 Even when God is foolish, he is wiser than everyone else, and even when God is weak, he is stronger than everyone else. My dear friends, remember what you were when God chose you. The people of this world didn't think that many of you were wise. Only a few of you were in places of power, and not many of you came from important families. But God chose the foolish things of this world to put the wise to shame. He chose the weak things of this world to put the powerful to shame. What the world thinks is worthless, useless, and nothing at all is what God has used to destroy what the world considers important.

If we believe this word and we do, we are going to destroy all the atheist ideology and religion, and this is further confirmed in the book of Revelation. So what does this all mean? Just one simple thing. You are fighting God not us. So sorry, you are fighting a losing battle.
 
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mustaphadrink

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I guess some people are happy not knowing what's out there, but many of us have an insatiable curiosity. We will keep asking the questions and looking for the answers.
What shall it profit a man if he gains the whole world and loses his own soul. Mark 8:36
 

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The thing is, in your post you could replace the word 'god' with 'The great Ju-Ju of the sea' and it would still read exactly the same. All your doing is putting a name to an unknown.
Unknown to you but not to us.
 

mustaphadrink

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When I read Genesis one I perceive an image of the world that is nothing like the world I live in. I think this text describes an ancient cosmological view of the world that is now defunct. This is the reason I must turn to science, but if you think the text is accurate then explain what I have misunderstood so that I can grasp it as you do.
Well, here is me an ignorant Christian who does not have much time for man made hypothesis explaining to an atheist who has built his faith on man made hypothesis what the bible means and how it works today.

In Genesis one it says that God made everything after its own kind. To simplify, dog after dog, cat after cat, mouse after mouse, lizard after lizard, spider after spider and so on. When the spider mated with another spider out came little spiders that looked just like mum and dad. What do we have today? dogs, cats, mice, lizards, spiders and so on and so on. Which proves that what God said happened as not one dog has become a cat. not one spider has become a lizard. Not one mouse has become a horse.

In other words the evidence for the accuracy of the text is staring you in the face as nothing has evolved any differently to God's design for creation.

Of course, if satan has blinded your eyes which he has done is you are an atheist or evolutionist, you will be unable to see the obvious so you have to make up some fairy story about a monkey becoming a man and invent a goo to you via the zoo theory. As one atheist proudly pontificated on TV that man evolved from a little sand worm no bigger that the nail on a man's finger.
 

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Jesus' perfect life, death, and resurrection is the whole point of the bible. If you missed this, you missed the whole thing.

John 5:39 You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; it is these that testify about Me;